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He just is damn cool!!! His intellect... his firm grasp of real world problems is just amazing.

David Letterman asked him if Obama thinks it's racism that he's being vilified, and Obama said, ""First of all, I think it's important to realize that I was actually black before the election..."

That draw cheers, laughter, and applause. :)

He continued to expound so eloquently why racism is not the reason... I don't know of any presidents being as eloquent or well educated as he is.

Obama's my favorite president!
 
He just is damn cool!!! His intellect... his firm grasp of real world problems is just amazing.

David Letterman asked him if Obama thinks it's racism that he's being vilified, and Obama said, ""First of all, I think it's important to realize that I was actually black before the election..."

That draw cheers, laughter, and applause. :)

He continued to expound so eloquently why racism is not the reason... I don't know of any presidents being as eloquent or well educated as he is.

Obama's my favorite president!

Bill Clinton. Richard Nixon. Ronald Reagan. Abraham Lincoln. JFK. Thomas Jefferson. Teddy Roosevelt. and.... who else? :hmm:
 
Bill Clinton. Richard Nixon. Ronald Reagan. Abraham Lincoln. JFK. Thomas Jefferson. Teddy Roosevelt. and.... who else? :hmm:

**snickers** the poster really wanted to say he is his messiah.
 
Calvin Coolidge may not have been a gifted orator (having the nickname "Silent Cal" and all), but it was said that he could be silent in five languages. The only president to have a doctorate degree was Woodrow Wilson. Legend has it that James Garfield could write in ancient Greek with one hand and Latin with the other. Just a few interesting tidbits.

My personal favorite for prose was Lincoln. Not only did he have a gift for the English language, but his speeches actually had substance. JFK and Reagan also delivered some great lines that have stood the test of time.
 
I saw the show and I was impressed with Obama's intellect and demeanor. He's the real thing, and I am certain there will be a National Health Care bill passed before too long.
I don't know if it was the closed captioning, but it looked like he made a gaffe that went unnoticed. Hmmmm, or maybe he is just human after all. A very likeable fellow.
 
Well, Jim Jones was a "superstar" and had his Kool Aid followers, too. We all know what happened afterwards.

Grape juice anyone?
 
Both Clinton and Obama have a doctorate degrees--juris doctorate. Clinton was a Rhodes scholar and got his J.D. at Yale. Obama was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review. I'm a law nerd so I like this. *need a nerd smilie here*

One of the most beloved American historical figures was gifted but did not go to college because he was the second son of a merchant family. That person was Benjamin Franklin. A very talented man and still one of my favorites!
 
Well, Jim Jones was a "superstar" and had his Kool Aid followers, too. We all know what happened afterwards.

Grape juice anyone?

Jim Jones was hardly a "superstar." He certainly did not appeal to the masses, and was a portion of the lunatic fringe. And to compare him to the president of the United States is fallicious, and indicative of your personal agenda.:roll: Not to mention completely disrespectful to the families of those that perished under the madman in Guyana.:roll:
 
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Jim Jones was hardly a "superstar." He certainly did not appeal to the masses, and was a portion of the lunatic fringe. And to compare him to the president of the United States is fallicious, and indicative of your personal agenda.:roll: Not to mention completely disrespectful to the families of those that perished under the madman in Guyana.:roll:


Note the quotes I used in "superstar"...

He had a cult following who never questioned him...until at the very end.
 
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Well put. Yes a personal agenda. And desperation.
Jim Jones used selective recruiting of homeless people, etc. To find needy and basically paid them with 'roof over head' and food to recruit them. Also used fear to be different......and threats....as a deterent to those who would speak up and question.
And if Koko wants to rag on collective religions lockstepping I think the repubs might have a bigger record of cult leaders derived from religion
David Koresh..Waco.......The whole Fundamental Latter Day Saints issue. Yes OKlahoma City bombing was revenge for Waco...... Religion is the conservative base. Conservative religious gun-nut cults...again Waco.
Even white supremacist tend to lean to gun-nut conservative republican and religious cults.
Can't find a more lockstepping group.
You're really plugging into people's miseries to play your personal agendas. And spinning info to do it.
Yes an insult. Not even close.

Jim Jones was hardly a "superstar." He certainly did not appeal to the masses, and was a portion of the lunatic fringe. And to compare him to the president of the United States is fallicious, and indicative of your personal agenda.:roll: Not to mention completely disrespectful to the families of those that perished under the madman in Guyana.:roll:
 
Well put. Yes a personal agenda. And desperation.
Jim Jones used selective recruiting of homeless people, etc. To find needy and basically paid them with 'roof over head' and food to recruit them. Also used fear to be different......and threats....as a deterent to those who would speak up and question.
And if Koko wants to rag on collective religions lockstepping I think the repubs might have a bigger record of cult leaders derived from religion
David Koresh..Waco.......The whole Fundamental Latter Day Saints issue. Yes OKlahoma City bombing was revenge for Waco...... Religion is the conservative base. Conservative religious gun-nut cults...again Waco.
Even white supremacist tend to lean to gun-nut conservative republican and religious cults.
Can't find a more lockstepping group.
You're really plugging into people's miseries to play your personal agendas. And spinning info to do it.
Yes an insult. Not even close.
Lol. "Cultistic following" seems to be a conservative thing. Witness Koko's insults about liberals considering Obama a messiah; a few liberals may have had leanings toward Obama as the savior but I doubt the majority of them think this way. I think superstar would be a better comparison in Obama's case.
 
My views of white supremacist (not KKK) are like people who use all their effort to make sure their dog are pure breed , except they want to make sure their grandchildren and great grandchildren are white so they centered themselves around white people. I know several people like that, and they are usually refer as racist people. But anyway, I wouldn't mind our native Indians telling people not to marry white people either. I am mostly native Indian and some black but I look more white (my dad look more native Indian)... Native Indians are dying out and I think there should be more of them. I wished I had more of my dad's traits, but oh well. anyway, I hang out with racist people all the time, and they don't scare me :)
 
Jim Jones was hardly a "superstar." He certainly did not appeal to the masses, and was a portion of the lunatic fringe. And to compare him to the president of the United States is fallicious, and indicative of your personal agenda.:roll: Not to mention completely disrespectful to the families of those that perished under the madman in Guyana.:roll:

Well put. Yes a personal agenda. And desperation.
Jim Jones used selective recruiting of homeless people, etc. To find needy and basically paid them with 'roof over head' and food to recruit them. Also used fear to be different......and threats....as a deterent to those who would speak up and question.
And if Koko wants to rag on collective religions lockstepping I think the repubs might have a bigger record of cult leaders derived from religion
David Koresh..Waco.......The whole Fundamental Latter Day Saints issue. Yes OKlahoma City bombing was revenge for Waco...... Religion is the conservative base. Conservative religious gun-nut cults...again Waco.
Even white supremacist tend to lean to gun-nut conservative republican and religious cults.
Can't find a more lockstepping group.
You're really plugging into people's miseries to play your personal agendas. And spinning info to do it.
Yes an insult. Not even close.
I agree with both of these quotes.

Sadly, the "ignored one's" agenda is just that; to disrespect the leader of my country. He claims he cares about America, but I think he would prefer that Obama fail rather than succeed. And only to say "I told you so" as the situation here worsens. I have hope that things get better. The strategy of the Rush-oholics is to make Obama's mission as difficult as possible. You want legacy for your kids? Keep posting angry and insulting comments about my leader.
As for the Jim Jones reference, perhaps YOU, the "ignored one" are the Pied Piper of the extremist Conservative cults. You have a gift with words. You have your little fan club. Play that flute and get the lost souls to follow you; fight for you; while you sit back with your worldly smirk. What a waste of your talents.
 
Rush is only speaking out what people are thinking. I can't believe how people think "oh, people are just listening to these crazy people" People come up with their own conclusion.
 
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Rush is only speaking out what people are thinking. I can't believe how people think "oh, people are just listening to these crazy people" People come up with their own conclusion.
So is the KKK, the NeoNazis, the Aryan Nation. They are saying what people are thinking, albeit a small number of people. That is what they believe. How do you feel about those groups having rallies? What about a radio program?
 
Jim Jones used selective recruiting of homeless people,
Yes. He started out as a community organizer. As his influence and power grew, he became a cult leader.
 
So is the KKK, the NeoNazis, the Aryan Nation. They are saying what people are thinking, albeit a small number of people. That is what they believe. How do you feel about those groups having rallies? What about a radio program?

pretty much, yeah. But most people do see things in a different light from their viewpoints.
 
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Cults prey on the vulnerable. My cousin is schizophrenic and a cult recruited her. It was very sad. Fortunately, our family go her out and got her the treatment she needed.

Lighthouse, I'm perplexed about the fact that you are of Native American descent and that you "hang out" with racists. I don't understand why you would want to hang out with someone who doesn't respect your ancestors. I understand that you may be "passing as white" to these people, but that has its psychological costs. Personally, I don't want to be around racist people because it's negative and toxic.

Each person makes her own choices about religion. The US has religious freedom. Pick a religion or be totally free from religion. It's inappropriate to comment negatively on another person's religious beliefs or lack there of.
 
Because some of them are family and some are from my neighbor (they even let my dad watch football with them). I have no choice. Beside, they have no intention to hurt me or belittled me. Never had either. They just believe people should stick with their own race.
 
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