Pro-life advocate murdered in Michigan

[kokonut]

So, are we hearing that a "fetus" isn't a human being? Right up to 40 weeks, 10 hours before this "fetus" is born?

Nutso.

 

[netrox]

Yes, meat has been our diet for thousands of years. It's a necessary source of food and nutrition for us. Plus, they're delicious!!

BBQ ribs anyone?

Of course, it's delicious. But to vegetarians who do so for animal rights will NOT be amused by your comment.

Whose Skin Are You In? // PETA

Lovely, isn't it? The excitement of seeing an animal skinned alive! All for our clothing! Poor innocent animals! They did nothing wrong!

I disagree with Jillo on her statement that it isn't "killing." It is killing but I don't call it murder. Abortion is gore. So is slaughtering animals for food and clothing.

In the old days, parents would just leave their defective infants and let wolves eat them.

 

[jillio]

You are....blind.




http://www.alldeaf.com/current-events/69389-pro-life-advocate-murdered-michigan-2.html#post1411442

Or are you saying, ha ha, that execution is not a death penalty?

So, you are a proponent of the death penalty. Execution is killing. It removes the life of a being that has sustained independent and viable life. Therefore, your statement,

Killing is still killing no matter how you try and change that, it is still killing/murdering a human being.

Totally invalidates the premise on which you are basing your argument, and reveals you to be the biggest hypocrit of them all.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

So, are we hearing that a "fetus" isn't a human being? Right up to 40 weeks, 10 hours before this "fetus" is born?

Nutso.

Who says they are not human beings?

I have only stayed out of the debate until now because I am neither pro- or anti-abortion because I don't like the grey area of "where fetal rights begin and where does mothers' rights end."

 

[jillio]

So, are we hearing that a "fetus" isn't a human being? Right up to 40 weeks, 10 hours before this "fetus" is born?

Nutso.

We are talking about abortion. Abortion at 40 weeks is illegal. :roll:

But no matter. You managed to invalidate the entire premise of your argument on your own.

 

[jillio]

Who says they are not human beings?

I have only stayed out of the debate until now because I am neither pro- or anti-abortion because I don't like the grey area of "where fetal rights begin and where does mothers' rights end."

Doesn't matter. He has already invalidated his own premise, and anything more will be a desperate attempt to backpedal.

 

[yizuman]

It is a valid and scientific terminology used in all branches of medicine and science. It is not a racial slur like those that you have just posted. Those are terms of bigotry, not scientific terminology. Get real.

It's not just a racial slur, it's how they view a human being as being something "other" than human.

So instead of calling an unborn baby, the medical community came up with a word that that's less hard on what's called a "conscience".

When your conscience hears the word "baby", you're thinking of a fully grown and borne child dressed in a diaper and playing with their toes. You automatically think "Awwwwwww!"

Now, when your conscience hears the word "fetus", you automatically think the unborn child is nothing more than a "blob of tissue" and an image of a "blob of tissue" forms in your mind, you automatically react as "ewwwwwwwwwww!"

Words has a powerful meaning to the conscience.

Yiz

 

[kokonut]

We are talking about abortion. Abortion at 40 weeks is illegal. :roll:

But no matter. You managed to invalidate the entire premise of your argument on your own.

I didn't say abortion at 40 weeks. I said a "fetus" at 40 weeks with 10 hours to go before being born is a human being. Same for those at 32 weeks, 35 weeks and so on before being born are human beings.

You refuse to call them "human beings" no matter how many weeks old the "fetus" is.

Glaringly, glaringly apparent.

 

[jillio]

It's not just a racial slur, it's how they view a human being as being something "other" than human.

So instead of calling an unborn baby, the medical community came up with a word that that's less hard on what's called a "conscience".

When your conscience hears the word "baby", you're thinking of a fully grown and borne child dressed in a diaper and playing with their toes. You automatically think "Awwwwwww!"

Now, when your conscience hears the word "fetus", you automatically think the unborn child is nothing more than a "blob of tissue" and an image of a "blob of tissue" forms in your mind, you automatically react as "ewwwwwwwwwww!"

Words has a powerful meaning to the conscience.

Yiz

No, the medical community and science came up with that term to distinguish between the various stages of pre-natal development.:roll:

 

[kokonut]

It's not just a racial slur, it's how they view a human being as being something "other" than human.

So instead of calling an unborn baby, the medical community came up with a word that that's less hard on what's called a "conscience".

When your conscience hears the word "baby", you're thinking of a fully grown and borne child dressed in a diaper and playing with their toes. You automatically think "Awwwwwww!"

Now, when your conscience hears the word "fetus", you automatically think the unborn child is nothing more than a "blob of tissue" and an image of a "blob of tissue" forms in your mind, you automatically react as "ewwwwwwwwwww!"

Words has a powerful meaning to the conscience.

Yiz

Bravo!! Bravo!! Well said!!

 

[jillio]

Bravo!! Bravo!! Well said!!

Yeah, the medical community, back during the time of Hippocrates, decided to call a fetus a fetus just to dehumanize it!

This is getting more and more absurd!

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

No, the medical community and science came up with that term to distinguish between the various stages of pre-natal development.:roll:

Actually... didn't fetus enter the English language in the 14th century to describe an unborn baby?

 

[yizuman]

No, the medical community and science came up with that term to distinguish between the various stages of pre-natal development.:roll:

They came with all that because it helps make it so much easier to kill the unborn child w/o having their conscience bugging the hell out of them.

Yiz

 

[jillio]

Actually... didn't fetus enter the English language in the 14th century to describe an unborn baby?

I'm not certain of the exact time that it gained widespread usage, but the fact that it is "unborn" refers to a stage of pre-natal development, just as embryo and blastocyst do.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

They came with all that because it helps make it so much easier to kill the unborn child w/o having their conscience bugging the hell out of them.

Yiz

If you are going to debate on word usage, please look up the history of the word.

Fetus has been a part of the English lexicon since the 1300s, which is incidentally around the same time when Christianity (which brought Latin with them) reached Britain.

 

[jillio]

They came with all that because it helps make it so much easier to kill the unborn child w/o having their conscience bugging the hell out of them.

Yiz

Abortion wasn't even an issue then. They didn't just start using that term in 1973 when Roe v. Wade was passed!

Why do they call the earlier stage an embryo, and the stage before that a blastocyst? Same reason...to make it easier to abort them?

You've been using kokonut's Little Tykes doctors kit, haven't you?

 

[sallylou]

I don't see these guys lining up to take care of the baby once he's here. They love rights for children from conception until birth. Then, the child's needs are a burden on society. The same guys don't want to fork up welfare and medicaid for the kids once they are born. And death penalty? Fry 'em.

 

[kokonut]

No, the medical community and science came up with that term to distinguish between the various stages of pre-natal development.:roll:

A "fetus" is described as being 8 weeks on out.

Main Entry: fe·tus
Pronunciation: \ˈfē-təs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful — more at feminine
Date: 14th century
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth.
fetus - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

A big difference in what "fetus" looks like at 8 weeks to that of 38,39, 40 weeks which looks no different from a new born baby. Yiz is right. Saying "fetus" conjurs up a blob but not that of a human being at 12, 24, or 36 weeks old in the womb.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR-Qa_LD2m4&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Development of Fetus[/ame]

 

[sallylou]

Yea, I've had ultra sounds early in my pregnancies. Blob just about covers it.

 

[jillio]

I don't see these guys lining up to take care of the baby once he's here. They love rights for children from conception until birth. Then, the child's needs are a burden on society. The same guys don't want to fork up welfare and medicaid for the kids once they are born. And death penalty? Fry 'em.

Exactly. Complete hypocrits.