U.S. Declares Public Health Emer.: Swine Flu

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Well, its well known that any air borne virus spreads very quickly in confined spaces. Anyone who has ever had a kid in school knows that.
 
jillio said:
Well, its well known that any air borne virus spreads very quickly in confined spaces. Anyone who has ever had a kid in school knows that.
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Yup!! Since kids LOVES to share their germs!! (shuddering)

Especially little ones, at pre school!!
 
do I smell a bit of a cover-up......probably the truth is somewhere in middle <between Biden and what the other officials and those who most benefit from public's use of subways, etc., say>
 
According to Biden, my hubby, son, and I are in danger since I work at a school, my son goes to daycare, and my hubby uses the DC metro daily.

Oh boyeee...I am sure we will be fine. :)
 
Biden ended with "That's me." He was just telling the reporter what he'd do with his family, not what he's telling the public. Once again, his statement being taken out of context.

It is a fact that you DO spread germs in confined space - it's already well established that flu is spread by airborne and can travel up to six feet in the air.

And I agree.. I'd not want my family to go out if possible during a potential breakout. Common sense!

And to say, "you should not go out when you're sick" is ridiculous because the most contagious period is a day BEFORE you get sick and while you're sick and by the time you're sick, you've already spread to several contacts (assuming you went out). Once you're sick, you'd NOT want to go out!
 
Also, all that anger comes from companies who are INTERESTED in making money to transport you, not protecting your health.
 
netrox said:
Biden ended with "That's me." He was just telling the reporter what he'd do with his family, not what he's telling the public. Once again, his statement being taken out of context.

It is a fact that you DO spread germs in confined space - it's already well established that flu is spread by airborne and can travel up to six feet in the air.

And I agree.. I'd not want my family to go out if possible during a potential breakout. Common sense!

And to say, "you should not go out when you're sick" is ridiculous because the most contagious period is a day BEFORE you get sick and while you're sick and by the time you're sick, you've already spread to several contacts (assuming you went out). Once you're sick, you'd NOT want to go out!
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Especially, in buildings that have recirculated air!!
 
Reba said:
VP Biden didn't help matters when this happened:
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*look at oil price*

Oh wow, oil price is increase because more people avoid public transportation and use vehicle to transport, that's surprised news to OPEC.

j/k
 
Foxrac said:
*look at oil price*

Oh wow, oil price is increase because more people avoid public transportation and use vehicle to transport, that's surprised news to OPEC.

j/k
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I heard it dropped!
 
netrox said:
Biden ended with "That's me." He was just telling the reporter what he'd do with his family, not what he's telling the public. Once again, his statement being taken out of context.
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It was not taken out of context. I watched the video on TV and read the transcript.

So which is the truth? Is airplane travel safe, as the President says, or is it unsafe, as the VP says?

They need to get together on their stories.
 
WHO to stop using term 'swine flu' to protect pigs

GENEVA – The World Health Organization announced Thursday it will would stop using the term "swine flu" to avoid confusion over the danger posed by pigs. The policy shift came a day after Egypt began slaughtering thousands of pigs in a misguided effort to prevent swine flu.

WHO spokesman Dick Thompson said the agriculture industry and the U.N. food agency had expressed concerns that the term "swine flu" was misleading consumers and needlessly causing countries to ban pork products and order the slaughter of pigs.

"Rather than calling this swine flu ... we're going to stick with the technical scientific name H1N1 influenza A," Thompson said.

The swine flu virus originated in pigs, and has genes from human, bird and pig viruses. Scientists don't know exactly how it jumped to humans. In the current outbreak, WHO says the virus is being spread from human-to-human, not from contact with infected pigs.

Egypt began slaughtering its roughly 300,000 pigs Wednesday even though experts said swine flu is not linked to pigs and not spread by eating pork. Angry farmers protested the government degree.

In Paris, the World Organization for Animal Health said Thursday "there is no evidence of infection in pigs, nor of humans acquiring infection directly from pigs."

Killing pigs "will not help to guard against public or animal health risks" presented by the virus and "is inappropriate," the group said in a statement.

China, Russia, Ukraine and other nations have banned pork exports from Mexico and parts of the United States, blaming swine flu fears.

Most in the Muslim world consider pigs unclean animals and do not eat pork because of religious restrictions. The farmers in Egypt raise the pigs for consumption by the country's Christian minority.

WHO also reported the number of confirmed swine flu cases rose to 257 worldwide Thursday, with cases in Mexico rising to 97 from 26, with seven deaths. The WHO confirmed tally from the United States now stands at 109, with one death.

Other confirmed cases include 19 in Canada, 13 in Spain, eight in Britain, three each in Germany and New Zealand, two in Israel and one each in Austria, Switzerland and the Netherlands.

Thompson told reporters in Geneva that at least one of the Spanish cases involved a person who had not traveled to Mexico. Spanish officials said that was a man who apparently got the virus from his girlfriend, who recently returned from Mexico.

WHO raised the pandemic flu alert to phase 5 on Wednesday, one step away from the highest level indicating a global outbreak. WHO flu chief Keiji Fukuda said Thursday there were no indications in the past day that would prompt the U.N. body to raise the alert further.

To move from pandemic alert level 5 to level 6 means that WHO believes there is evidence of big outbreaks in at least two world regions and a pandemic is under way.

Fukuda said the jump in confirmed cases from Mexico was probably the result of scientists working their way through a backlog of untested samples from suspected cases.

"They are going through several thousands of laboratory specimens right now," he said.

WHO has started distributing its stockpile of 2 million treatments of the antiviral drug Tamiflu to regional offices, which will decide where to send them next.

Many of those drugs will go to developing countries that don't have stockpiles of their own and some will be sent to Mexico, Fukuda said, without providing figures.
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WHO to stop using term 'swine flu' to protect pigs

The pigs need protection? :roll:
 
shel90 said:
No wonder my local news station used the term "H1N1" instead of "Swine flu" when reporting on it.
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We can can Change the term! But pretty much every one knows where it originated from.

It will not stop other countries/people from slaughtering, or refusing to eat pigs/pork.


Just another way to make a term...."politically correct"
 
The whole context:

In an interview on NBC's "Today Show," Matt Lauer asked Mr. Biden, "If a member of your family came to you . . . and said, 'Look, I want to go on a commercial airliner to Mexico, and back within the next week,' would you think it's a good idea?"

That is A PERSONAL QUESTION... not a MEDICAL QUESTION! He's asking him WHAT he'd DO with HIS FAMILY.

The vice president replied, "I would tell members of my family -- and I have -- I wouldn't go anywhere in confined places now. . . . It's not that it's going to Mexico. It's [that] you're in a confined aircraft. When one person sneezes, it goes all the way through the aircraft. That's me." He added, "So, from my perspective, what it relates to is mitigation. If you're out in the middle of a field when someone sneezes, that's one thing. If you're in a closed aircraft or closed container or closed car or closed classroom, it's a different thing."

He's talking about WHAT HE'D do with HIS FAMILY, not for the public. Not you.
 
Foxrac said:
Some countries don't understand about food safety with pork, pork is safe to eat after cooked and all viruses are killed during cooking, pork has been part of nutrient.
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CDC has stated that people dont get the flu from eating pork. The worst thing anyone can get from eating pork is food poisioning.
 
And Reba, do you agree with Biden? Yes or no? It's a simple question. Do you want to risk your health or your children's health by taking them out to places that could be a potential breeding ground for flu?

Kinda funny because you have paranoid tendencies and have stated you've stockpiled canned food but you're upset with Biden's comment about what he would do with his family?
 
shel90 said:
CDC has stated that people dont get the flu from eating pork. The worst thing anyone can get from eating pork is food poisioning.
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Yup, true and some other countries don't listen to CDC and WHO about pork safety.
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, true and some other countries don't listen to CDC and WHO about pork safety.
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Those particular countries are using it as an "excuse" to slaughter the pigs. I think they are doing it more for religious reasons. The minorities in those countries are the ones that eats pork. So the rest of them are against eating pork PERIOD!

So now they feel that they have the perfect excuse to do, in the name of "H1N1" or "Swine Flu"
 
Babyblue said:
Those particular countries are using it as an "excuse" to slaughter the pigs. I think they are doing it more for religious reasons. The minorities in those countries are the ones that eats pork. So the rest of them are against eating pork PERIOD!

So now they feel that they have the perfect excuse to do, in the name of "H1N1" or "Swine Flu"
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Why does you said in cap word? It sounds like shout at me or someone.
 
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