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Mom Pleads For Daughter After Life Sentence For Shoplifting
Mom Pleads For Daughter After Life Sentence For Shoplifting - Local News Story - KOCO Oklahoma City

OKLAHOMA COUNTY, Okla. -- The family of a woman sentenced to life after a shoplifting conviction says she needs medical help, not a life sentence.

An Oklahoma County judge sentenced Cecilia Rodriguez Friday to life in prison for shoplifting purses at a local Dillard's.

She's had at least 30 previous convictions in four states dating back to 1971, leading District Judge Ray Elliott to call her a "one person crime wave" before his sentence.

Rodriguez' family said she steals to feed a heroin addiction, and she needs medical help.

"I'd just like to see her get some help. Put her in some kind of rehabilitation place so she can get herself straightened out," said Geneva Gabriel, Rodriguez's mother. "She's not hurting nobody but herself. She needs help. She needs to be in a drug rehabilitation center where somebody can help her and not put her in jail again ... She's been (in prison) before. It hasn't helped."

Gabriel said she is disabled and that while Rodriguez is her caretaker, she knew she would get some jail time after this latest conviction.

However, Rodriguez's cousin said nobody expected the sentence she received.

"She is an adult. She knows what she did was wrong. The drug overcame that part of it. She knows she would get sentenced, but nobody would ever think life," said Patricia Del Angel.

The woman's lawyer said he will ask a judge to reduce the sentence in a year.

A life sentence in Oklahoma equates to about 40 years. However, Rodriguez was sentenced to serve 19 years beyond that because a judge revoked her probation in a 2000 case.

oh wow!
 
Many states used to have habitual criminal laws. It was three strikes and then life.

She got lots of opportunity before to fix her problem.
 
all for more reason why this drug law is an EPIC FAIL! Send her to treatment center, not prison. her condition is treatable thus saving us a great deal of problems and tax money from incarcerating her for lifetime.
 
Life for SHOPLIFTING ???? For stealing a purse? Just another example of stupidity at its finest - it'll cost her state tens of thousands per year to house her in prison. For stealing a purse. Good job, judge! :roll:
 
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She's had at least 30 previous convictions in four states dating back to 1971, leading District Judge Ray Elliott to call her a "one person crime wave" before his sentence.

She had so many chances, and there is no sign of stopping her from stealing again. 30 convictions and once she gets out, she'll do it again, it's all that cycle.

The article didn't say that she had the treatments in the past, so there may be a lag in the justice system.

We all know about the "3 strikes and you're out" law that Clinton signed in his presidency. It does help with some, not all of the crimes convictions.
 
In the article:

She had so many chances, and there is no sign of stopping her from stealing again. 30 convictions and once she gets out, she'll do it again, it's all that cycle.

The article didn't say that she had the treatments in the past, so there may be a lag in the justice system.

We all know about the "3 strikes and you're out" law that Clinton signed in his presidency. It does help with some, not all of the crimes convictions.

I did read that excerpt. I understand where the judge is coming from because of all her previous convictions, but all life in prison does for her is stop her from robbing Dilliard's of what? A few bucks from the sale of a purse? In exchange, it'll cost her taxpayers a fortune to house her in prison. I could understand this a little better if she were stealing a $30,000 car or forging her name on a million-dollar house, or holding people at gunpoint while shoplifting that purse. But .. ?? .. Put her in treatment.
 
mostly shopping wanted buy or not and get buy somedays and says how much that price i know dillards is totally expensives and expect purse!

i went dillards in my hometown that purse is lots of money around over $100-$300 dollars im not joking and i wanted that expensives purses but im rather not buy expensives purse!
 
She's had at least 30 previous convictions in four states dating back to 1971, leading District Judge Ray Elliott to call her a "one person crime wave" before his sentence.


I am sure she had the opportunity to rehabilitate and was put in rehab in between the 30 convictions.


That is one of the problems with drugs. People will not rehabilitate, if they do not want to. A judge can order it. but it will not help, unless the person wants to quit and rehabilitate.

I am sure she has had many chances.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can not make it drink"

She Failed!!
 
all for more reason why this drug law is an EPIC FAIL! Send her to treatment center, not prison. her condition is treatable thus saving us a great deal of problems and tax money from incarcerating her for lifetime.




I will bet you money, that the judge has tossed her into rehab in the past. She probably be in and out of court ordered rehab. She had at least 30 chances. Judges do not just throw addicts to jail. Many of them are put on probation with stipulations of attending to a drug rehabilitation program. If that doesn't work then they are thrown into rehab as an Inpatient for a period of time following a probation. Over and over, til the judge realized that she did not want to help herself.

Good Grief!! She had more than enough chances. This lady is 52 years old!! with at least 30 convictions! She had more chances than most Judges will allow in the first place!
 
I read about her family expecting the state to rehabilitate her. The state will not move swiftly to fund programs no matter how much one protests. Why didn't her family consider other funding resources before it got out of hand? C'mon! They had 30+ years of chances to figure it out, they can't just come to her side and say "oh poor her!" when they never really put any effort to help her clean up her act. I'm partially with the judge, but a lifetime is a bit overkill.
 
I read about her family expecting the state to rehabilitate her. The state will not move swiftly to fund programs no matter how much one protests. Why didn't her family consider other funding resources before it got out of hand? C'mon! They had 30+ years of chances to figure it out, they can't just come to her side and say "oh poor her!" when they never really put any effort to help her clean up her act. I'm partially with the judge, but a lifetime is a bit overkill.


Family probably already did plea to the court on Rehab in the past. Probably what she has been doing for a period of time in between jail time. They are probably using the same method as they always have before. Judge is tired of it. Rehab will not help unless the person wants help, They will do rehab to stay out of jail. When probation is over they will go right back to doing drugs.


I am sure the Family feels for her. They feel that she can still be helped.
The only ones the rehab will help is the ones that truly wants it.

Come on!!! This has been going on since before I was born. This has started in the year of 1971.
 
I will bet you money, that the judge has tossed her into rehab in the past. She probably be in and out of court ordered rehab. She had at least 30 chances. Judges do not just throw addicts to jail. Many of them are put on probation with stipulations of attending to a drug rehabilitation program. If that doesn't work then they are thrown into rehab as an Inpatient for a period of time following a probation. Over and over, til the judge realized that she did not want to help herself.

Good Grief!! She had more than enough chances. This lady is 52 years old!! with at least 30 convictions! She had more chances than most Judges will allow in the first place!

Family probably already did plea to the court on Rehab in the past. Probably what she has been doing for a period of time in between jail time. They are probably using the same method as they always have before. Judge is tired of it. Rehab will not help unless the person wants help, They will do rehab to stay out of jail. When probation is over they will go right back to doing drugs.


I am sure the Family feels for her. They feel that she can still be helped.
The only ones the rehab will help is the ones that truly wants it.

Come on!!! This has been going on since before I was born. This has started in the year of 1971.

if you notice in the article - it did not state that she was in rehab. she was incarcerated for her 30 convictions (probably petty crimes such as burglary to feed her heroin addiction) and the court just tossed her into jail. but then... you're probably right that she must have been tossed into rehabs several times as well.

Now let us analyze the reason why many people were not successfully rehabilitated and why there are a rather high percentage of repeated offenders. If you recall from DareDevil's post from other locked thread, there are a huge discrepancy among treatment centers in terms of success. I'm no medical health professional nor do I have any experience in this kind of matter but my logic dictates that she was probably tossed into a FAILED, UNDER-FUNDED, ILL-EQUIPPED state-funded treatment center. and also... she was treated as criminal, not a person with serious heroin addiction. The state does not care. The public does not care. and the state & public have failed her too.

Now - I understand that she's had at least 30 chances to fix her life but with our current drug laws... it's very difficult to have a normal life. What's normal life, you ask? In order to have a normal life - you need a job. Now tell me - who the hell wants to hire the person with criminal record especially drug record? Wal-Mart performs background and piss check. So does many other jobs. Lot of jobs whose employers do not perform the background check are taken by "cheaper" immigrants. That's why this current drug law is an EPIC FAIL!

As long as you will have a criminal record saying "drug possession"... for even having 1 or 2 joints in your pocket.... Tell me how are you supposed to have a normal life with a criminal record? You're basically BRANDED FOR LIFE and nobody's going to hire you.
 
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if you notice in the article - it did not state that she was in rehab. she was incarcerated for her 30 convictions (probably petty crimes such as burglary to feed her heroin addiction) and the court just tossed her into jail. but then... you're probably right that she must have been tossed into rehabs several times as well.

Now let us analyze the reason why many people were not successfully rehabilitated and why there are a rather high percentage of repeated offenders. If you recall from DareDevil's post from other locked thread, there are a huge discrepancy among treatment centers in terms of success. I'm no medical health professional nor do I have any experience in this kind of matter but my logic dictates that she was probably tossed into a FAILED, UNDER-FUNDED, ILL-EQUIPPED state-funded treatment center. and also... she was treated as criminal, not a person with serious heroin addiction. The state does not care. The public does not care. and the state & public have failed her too.

Now - I understand that she's had at least 30 chances to fix her life but with our current drug laws... it's very difficult to have a normal life. What's normal life, you ask? In order to have a normal life - you need a job. Now tell me - who the hell wants to hire the person with criminal record especially drug record? Wal-Mart performs background and piss check. So does many other jobs. Lot of jobs whose employers do not perform the background check are taken by "cheaper" immigrants. That's why this current drug law is an EPIC FAIL!

As long as you will have a criminal record saying "drug possession"... for even having 1 or 2 joints in your pocket.... Tell me how are you supposed to have a normal life with a criminal record? You're basically BRANDED FOR LIFE and nobody's going to hire you.
 
Life for SHOPLIFTING ???? For stealing a purse? Just another example of stupidity at its finest - it'll cost her state tens of thousands per year to house her in prison. For stealing a purse. Good job, judge! :roll:

She's been convicted 30 times in 4 different states. Keep that in mind. That number is probably what led the judge to hand her a lifetime sentence for the latest shoplifting crime.

I do, however, agree with Jiro, and the judge should have ordered her to get mandatory treatment in a very well-run drug rehab center and then a 5 year stay in a supervised halfway house or group home to make sure she stays clean.

(I know one woman who was ordered by a judge to stay in a special group home (and this is a VERY good group home, in my opinion) for at least 5 years before she would be allowed to live on her own. This group home is one of the several group homes that a girl I cared for stayed in, and it was the best I had ever seen. Lots of close supervision, very clean, not crowded, completely up to code for fire and health and food, plenty of food for all the women, and they were given medications on a very strict schedule, and everything had to go by schedule to give the women a consistent kind of care and to keep everything organized and in control. The women were even allowed to have a pet if they have proved that they can take very good consistent care of an animal, which amazed me. This group home was probably the best thing that had ever happened to this woman I know, and it was the best thing that had ever happened to the girl I cared for, but unfortunately she didn't see it that way, and trashed the lady that ran the home, and then moved out...)

Anyway, the woman that had the 30 convictions would benefit greatly from 6 months to a year in a drug rehab/treatment center, and then 5 years in a good well-run halfway house or group home with lots of close supervision and rules and a consistent schedule, and where the psychiatric medications are given on a very strict and consistent schedule, and she should also be ordered to attend classes on life skills (such as learning to keep a house or apartment clean, how to pay the rent on time, keep a job, pay all her bills on time, etc) while in the halfway house or group home, and to attend mandatory Drug Anonymous meetings every day for the rest of her life, and should be on parole for the rest of her life and be subjected to drug testing every single week for the rest of her life in order to cooperate with parole, too. She also should be required to do a little bit of community service everyday once out of the drug rehab/treatment center, to help her shift towards independent living by learning how to keep a job, stick to a schedule, and not be late for work, etc...volunteering for a charity or a food bank or something, something she could do everyday at the same time everyday, would benefit her...a few hours a day during the week, while she is in the halfway house or group home.

But if all the above suggestions for this woman have failed, then she should spend that life sentence in a good well-run (however unfortunately there are few) mental hospital instead of prison. They will feed her 3 square meals a day and provide a bed, and group therapy and activities, and she will receive psychiatric medications and close supervision and will not be allowed to use illicit drugs at all. She will be cared for, and will not be allowed out by herself ever again, thus preventing her from shoplifting, and also keeping her off of illicit drugs for good. The article says that the woman is disabled, but doesn't specify what disability, so I am going to guess mental illness of some sort. I know I shouldn't assume, but the many shoplifting convictions and the drug addiction leads me to this conclusion. I believe that drug and alcohol addiction is often due to a mental illness, such as depression or something like that, and they self-medicate by using illicit drugs or alcohol.

I would think a life sentence in a mental hospital would be a much better solution than prison because in prison she would still have some access to illicit drugs (people smuggle contraband into the prison). She would never get clean if she goes to prison. Prison is a very, very, very expensive and BAD solution. Actually, prison is not really gonna solve anything for this woman, as she has been in prison many times already. Perhaps it's time they give her a life sentence in a mental hospital (and I hope a good one) in a locked ward with lots of close supervision.

...and a life sentence in the mental hospital or a prison should be for THE REST OF A PERSON'S LIFE, not just 40 years. Otherwise, they need to stop calling it a "lifetime sentence" and look up the definition of "lifetime".
 
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it's interesting that in that state - a "lifetime sentence" is 40 years. I wonder why would they call it a lifetime sentence :dunno:
 
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