Confederate Flag

[Jiro]

If you know so much about African-American history, what is the Juneteenth Celebration and why is it celebrated?

that doesn't even warrant an answer from me. It's like asking me what is the Christmas Day and why is it celebrated. :roll:

 

[Jiro]

Jiro,

The reaon why many African-Americans left the South was due to the fact that they wanted to find employment. If you remember your history, the Industrial Revolution took place in the North.

Unfortunately, many African-Americans were unable to find jobs to support their families besides farm work and share cropping.

Their move to the Northern states was also why many African-American families are matriachal. Women were left to care for their children until their husbands were able to find work and bring their families North following the Industrial Revolution.

I would also like to correct you on your comment about slaves. They did not manufacture products. They worked on plantations in agriculture or as servants in the master's house.

If you know so much about African-American history, what is the Juneteenth Celebration and why is it celebrated?

because the North destroyed much of South. :roll: Remember Sherman? Point is - the life for blacks did NOT improve much in Post-Civil War. It was hardly a mediocre! Segregation? cheap labor? reduced civil rights?

Read Hear Again's post--if you know your African American history--you would see the migration to the north after the Civil War. Secondly--they were also supposed to get their 40 acres and a mule and that didn't happend as well......

about 40 acres and a mule - I don't think General Sherman even has an authority to issue such order. No wonder it wasn't enforceable. It's merely a cheap ploy to get the slaves to fight for Sherman's army and Union army (hint hint - a clever Sun Tzu-like tactic to encourage slaves to rebel against South). Same thing for Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation because the war was becoming unpopular and he was losing the support. Admit it - it makes a nice ring on Lincoln Administration and it works very well.... gaining a very popular support among abolitionists and slaves. again - Lincoln did not originally fight to free slaves.

Also if you look at the Civil rights movement, you would see that it also took place in the South which should tell you that it is a "hotbed of racism".

yea.... like Rosa Parks....

To claim the Dixie flag as heritage and to be prideful of it is also revealing the individual's real character as an individual that is a racist.

Always has been, always will.

when I lived in Virginia for college... the guy down the hall - he's your typical Southern guy.. cowboy hat, tight jeans with cowboy boots and a belt buckle as big as my face and he has the Confederate Flag hanging on his wall. You know what surprised me? a black friend coming out of his dorm room, laughing with him and doing some pound-hug (see pix below for pound-hug).

To claim that Dixie flag as revealing the individual's real character as a racist individual is an ignorant person but then... to each one's own... and my previous statement still applies - The North (West/Central/East) views the Confederate Flag as racist while the South views it as a heritage....

**it's a pix of Sean Combs doing man-hug with a white man

 

[Byrdie714]

Somewhere in your family history you either came from the Union, or the Confederate.

Unless you family came to the U.S. somewhere down the line, after the Civil War.

My family came to the US in the early 1900's.

To claim that Dixie flag as revealing the individual's real character as a racist individual is an ignorant person but then... to each one's own... and my previous statement still applies - The North (West/Central/East) views the Confederate Flag as racist while the South views it as a heritage....

:roll:

You would be singing a different tune when there is a burning cross with a Dixie flag on your front lawn.

 

[Babyblue]

My family came to the US in the early 1900's.

Cool!

:roll:

You would be singing a different tune when there is a burning cross with a Dixie flag on your front lawn.

So the cross becomes a racist symbol? As well as them twisting the words in the bible. Claiming religion to back up their beliefs.



Their are some racist idiots out there that abuses the flag.

Those idiots are the ones to blame. Not the flag.

That is like saying gun kill people. When it is people killing people.

 

[shel90]

Read Hear Again's post--if you know your African American history--you would see the migration to the north after the Civil War. Secondly--they were also supposed to get their 40 acres and a mule and that didn't happend as well......

Also if you look at the Civil rights movement, you would see that it also took place in the South which should tell you that it is a "hotbed of racism".

To claim the Dixie flag as heritage and to be prideful of it is also revealing the individual's real character as an individual that is a racist.

Always has been, always will.

My neighbors across the street always invite my hubby and I to their house for parties or just to hang out. They have a Confederate flag dispayed on one wall in their basement. If they were racist, why would they welcome my hubby with open arms?

 

[Jiro]

You would be singing a different tune when there is a burning cross with a Dixie flag on your front lawn.

nope! Should I sing a different tune about black people if I stroll thru Harlem that they're nothing but bunch of lawless apes? :roll:

 

[shel90]

nope! Should I sing a different tune about black people if I stroll thru Harlem that they're nothing but bunch of lawless apes? :roll:

There are black people who are against white people and vice versa. A lot of black women here in the Baltimore area make crude and insulting remarks about my husband snagging a white woman for social standing or that I stole a good black man from the black women. On the other hand, there are whites who snubbed me cuz I am married to a black man. Nobody wins so I dont give a f***ck.

U drive in Harlem, u will encounter some people who will kick your ass for not being a black person but then again, u may not. Not all people in Harlem are apes.

 

[Reba]

The reason I'm trying to show you that it's not just America history over slavery, we (European) were being taught to learn about because some of you feel being insult and offensive by European's knowledge over America's history.

It's offensive if it's inaccurate.

Exactly, why I'm trying to explain you that you and I learn about America's history differently since we were not born in that time and even haven't collect Civil War survivor's experience in real life since you claimed that the history you was being exposed is accurate.. How do we know that the history, we were being taught is accurate? You know that the history is not alway accurate. That's why I said "me too"... because we both were not born in that time but was being exposed to learn those history in different way.

As you saw in my links, historians have access to the original documents of that time, including posters, newspapers, legal documents, personal and official letters, and diaries.

Can you please explain why there're over thousands white and black people protest against confedernce flag in South Carolina? And also schools, too?

There are always some people who will protest anything. You have protests in Europe, too.

The main protest was against the Confederate flag flying over the State House. It wasn't about the existence of the flag, or personal use of the flag.

The Confederate flag is not the only symbol that some schools ban but is only one of several PC bans.

Huh? I thought you know what I mean.

Okay, here...

European colonization of the Americas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of course I know Europeans emigrated to America. What does that have to do with this topic? The Civil War happened hundreds of years after the first Europeans mentioned in your link arrived.

"many"? I doubt.

That's your prerogative to ignore the facts.

 

[Jiro]

There are black people who are against white people and vice versa. A lot of black women here in the Baltimore area make crude and insulting remarks about my husband snagging a white woman for social standing or that I stole a good black man from the black women. On the other hand, there are whites who snubbed me cuz I am married to a black man. Nobody wins so I dont give a f***ck.

U drive in Harlem, u will encounter some people who will kick your ass for not being a black person but then again, u may not. Not all people in Harlem are apes.

exactly!!!! Not all people waving Confederate Flags are racist! FYI - I've strolled and parked and driven in Harlem on daily basis for a couple years. Harlem is actually one of the safest areas compared to other black-dominated neighborhoods.

 

[Reba]

So there are no "true southerners' then.....

I didn't say that. There are still plenty of "true Southerners" left. The ratio is smaller than it used to be but they are still here, very definitely.

 

[Babyblue]

I didn't say that. There are still plenty of "true Southerners" left. The ratio is smaller than it used to be but they are still here, very definitely.

Define "True Southerners?"

 

[Reba]

...Reba remind me that the poster was for North America. This thread here is about condederate Flag, condederate soilders, black slavery etc in South America, not North America. Unfortunlately you posted the poster to wrong thread...

Excuse me, I didn't say the poster was from North America. I said it was from the North. That means the states north of the Mason-Dixon Line, also known as the Union states. The states south of the Mason-Dixon were called Southern or Confederate states. Geographically, they were all part of North America. South America is a totally separate continent.

 

[Reba]

Define "True Southerners?"

In relation to Byrdie's question, it means people born in the Deep South or the former Confederate states.

 

[Babyblue]

In relation to Byrdie's question, it means people born in the Deep South or the former Confederate states.

very much..

Just wanted to make sure people was clear of that.

Since certain people think "true southerners are racist" for displaying or being associated with the Confederate Flag.

Some, even consider a true Southerner to be an Ignorant Redneck!!

 

[Reba]

...Some, even consider a true Southerner to be an Ignorant Redneck!!

My brother, who still lives in Connecticut, imagines that I must live like the Dukes of Hazard. (I did use to own a '72 Charger. )

 

[Babyblue]

My brother, who still lives in Connecticut, imagines that I must live like the Dukes of Hazard. (I did use to own a '72 Charger. )

Heck yeah!

Never owned one of those! But always, since I was a kid.. been a fan of the Good ol' boys!!

Boss Hogg always cracked me up!!

 

[Calvin]

Heck yeah!

Never owned one of those! But always, since I was a kid.. been a fan of the Good ol' boys!!

Boss Hogg always cracked me up!!

And Sheriff Rosco Coltrane, his famous quote "You Dipstick"

 

[Calvin]

I used to live in the South (Texas) for 8 years, they do have good southern foods there. I've seen some rebel flags in some spots, not everywhere, and they are for pride and heritage. I was born in California, so I'd guess I am a yankee, and I have no problem with other people and show respect who they are.

 

[Jiro]

I used to live in the South (Texas) for 8 years, they do have good southern foods there. I've seen some rebel flags in some spots, not everywhere, and they are for pride and heritage. I was born in California, so I'd guess I am a yankee, and I have no problem with other people and show respect who they are.

California didn't exist at that time.... so no you're not a Yankee. Only if you're born from Union states. CA used to belong to Mexico so you would be a Mexican at that time

 

[Babyblue]

And Sheriff Rosco Coltrane, his famous quote "You Dipstick"

Hilarious show!! Dang! What was his ol' dawg named? The Hound? I forgot!!