Holder: U.S. a 'nation of cowards' on race discussions

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according to my HS history teacher, the Civil War was the war of the states, North and South. now everyone said it is about slavery...I read in U.S. News & World Report that the British also took slaves from the U.S. back to the UK.


Byrdie714 said:
Amazing that we have several posts on here that love to discuss the Civil War era but can't discuss race? *smh*
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BradB08 said:
Talk about ignorance on here.

You should educate yourself before you open your mouth like this.
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what am I missing seriously? I thought his father was a foreign exchange student that met his mother in college.
 
BradB08 said:
I don't see what's so interesting about that war?

I don't believe in romanticizing war.
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Its not so much interesting its just that most people think the civil war was all about slavery, when it was not.
 
This thread proves my point. Race discussions tend to get heated and everyone wants to be right which ends up with some people getting pissed off.

Believe it or not I am not an arrogant jerk that I appear to be on the net. My roommate in college was Apache and we talked about the European stealing the land from his ancestors. I agreed with him it sucked. We both came to the conclusion you cant change history and just have to live your life.

Like the Tuskegee syphillis experiment. They were studying the effects of syphillis on black people. A cure was discovered but they chose not to give it to them. They decided the disease run its course so they could collect more data. It upsets me as a human being. Race has nothing to do with my anger. Letting people suffer like that when there was a cure is just plain evil.
 
Babyblue said:
Oh yes it does,,

Civil War is often confusing to people of what the war was actually about.

A lot of people consider anyone holding or has a Rebel Flag is a racist.

Which is not true. I often wear my Dixie outfitter shirts and hang out at the mud hole. Just because I am country. Some people portray me as being racist because my Dixie outfitter Shirt has a Rebel Flag. It is a Heritage thing to me. I was born and raised in the south.
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I am not particularly offended by the Rebel flag. I personally don't see it as a racist symbol. That's just my personal opinion. But the fact that the KKK and other white supremisist groups co-opted it into their hate mongering hasn't helped it's case any. *rolls eyes*
 
society's_child said:
I am not particularly offended by the Rebel flag. I personally don't see it as a racist symbol. That's just my personal opinion. But the fact that the KKK and other white supremisist groups co-opted it into their hate mongering hasn't helped it's case any. *rolls eyes*
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I agree. About how the KKK's misuse of the Rebel flag may have ruin its true meaning.
 
society's_child said:
... But the fact that the KKK and other white supremisist groups co-opted it into their hate mongering hasn't helped it's case any. *rolls eyes*
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Sadly, groups like KKK have also co-opted the American and Christian flags, and the Christian Cross. Any symbol can be misused by any group unless you get a tight Trademark on it like Disney or McDonald's did.
 
Reba said:
Sadly, groups like KKK have also co-opted the American and Christian flags, and the Christian Cross. Any symbol can be misused by any group unless you get a tight Trademark on it like Disney or McDonald's did.
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Yup, the burning cross. What was the purpose of them doing that?
 
society's_child said:
There's probably some kind of symbolic meaning behind that. But imo, their main goal was simply to terrorize.
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True. Burning crosses and houses down. I cried and cried when I watched the movie Mississippi Burning.
 
Babyblue said:
True. Burning crosses and houses down. I cried and cried when I watched the movie Mississippi Burning.
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My mother grew up in the south in the 40's and 50's. To this day, she refuses to watch films like Mississippi Burning.
 
Doug5 said:
what am I missing seriously? I thought his father was a foreign exchange student that met his mother in college.
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What part of "He was born in Hawaii" do you not understand?

Unless people are stupid enough to think that Hawaii is a foreign country instead of the 50th state?
 
BradB08 said:
What part of "He was born in Hawaii" do you not understand?

Unless people are stupid enough to think that Hawaii is a foreign country instead of the 50th state?
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You misunderstood what I said. His father was an immigrant rather than a descendent of slaves. Obama's ancestors were not slaves.
 
Doug5 said:
You misunderstood what I said. His father was an immigrant rather than a descendent of slaves. Obama's ancestors were not slaves.
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I don't see what his father has to do with anything. Just because his ancestors weren't slaves, doesn't mean that people can pick on him at will.
 
Babyblue said:
True. Burning crosses and houses down. I cried and cried when I watched the movie Mississippi Burning.
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Really? Your description got me curious... I bidded DVD at Ebay few minutes ago after read your post. I have to wait for 4 days... *keep finger cross*
 
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