Israel Vows to Expand Gaza Airstrikes as Death Toll Passes 200

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naisho said:
wasn't it the religious beliefs that clash between them so they both do not accept each other?
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btw!!! PLO-Israeli have lived coexisted peacefully for a while.... until Israelis started rezoning.
 
With that being said above in my last post I do feel there are always solutions but there has to be compromises from both parties
 
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BradB08 said:
I don't need a history lesson.

People who support Israel's destruction of Gaza and the Palestinians need a reality check.

It would be one thing if they were concentrating solely on Hamas. However, they are killing civilians and denying Palestinian citizens access to medical care.
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First of all, Hamas militants are firing rockets into Israel, which provoked Israel to launch military strikes against these idiots. Second, these militants are cowards and hide among the civilians to use as human shields, they talk of fatal aggression, but can't back up their threats. So as in all wars, civilians will almost always be victims in the cross-fire, there is no such thing as a clean war. So want to stop the blood-shed? The ball is in Hamas court - all they have to do is renounce rocket attacks, as they were the ones who started the mess to begin with. Yes, the civilians are dying from this crisis - at the expense of their own ignorant terrorists. It makes me sick to know anyone supports these damn militants, but the situation is complex for the civilians as Israel is doing their damndest to prevent casualties. Are the militants making an effort? Hiding among them is definitely pitiful.
 
Fozzy said:
With that being said above in my last post I do feel there are always solutions but there has to be compromises from both parties
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yea... simple solution that will fix everybody's problem.... give them back their land! not all but more.
 
S.O.B. said:
First of all, Hamas militants are firing rockets into Israel, which provoked Israel to launch military strikes against these idiots. Second, these militants are cowards and hide among the civilians to use as human shields, they talk of fatal aggression, but can't back up their threats. So as in all wars, civilians will almost always be victims in the cross-fire, there is no such thing as a clean war. So want to stop the blood-shed? The ball is in Hamas court - all they have to do is renounce rocket attacks, as they were the ones who started the mess to begin with. Yes, the civilians are dying from this crisis - at the expense of their own ignorant terrorists. It makes me sick to know anyone supports these damn militants, but the situation is complex for the civilians as Israel is doing their damndest to prevent casualties. Are the militants making an effort? Hiding among them is definitely pitiful.
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:wtflol:
 
S.O.B. said:
First of all, Hamas militants are firing rockets into Israel, which provoked Israel to launch military strikes against these idiots. Second, these militants are cowards and hide among the civilians to use as human shields, they talk of fatal aggression, but can't back up their threats. So as in all wars, civilians will almost always be victims in the cross-fire, there is no such thing as a clean war. So want to stop the blood-shed? The ball is in Hamas court - all they have to do is renounce rocket attacks, as they were the ones who started the mess to begin with. Yes, the civilians are dying from this crisis - at the expense of their own ignorant terrorists. It makes me sick to know anyone supports these damn militants, but the situation is complex for the civilians as Israel is doing their damndest to prevent casualties. Are the militants making an effort? Hiding among them is definitely pitiful.
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that is how Israelis want to paint the picture as and they're winning. Remember? their good ole' victim card that always work.

What's not being shown is the PLO's victim card. Let me paint you a picture - Israelis ILLEGALLY demolishing Palestinians' homes with bulldozers, denying Palestinians' access to basic needs, enforcing the unfair sanctions, and randomly shooting at unarmed PLO, and many more. They routinely rounded up Palestinians as "suspected terrorists" and illegally detained them for period of time.
 
S.O.B. said:
these militants are cowards and hide among the civilians to use as human shields,
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There's one logic that applies to these guys though. They have the Jihadim-concept ritualistic ideas going on, meaning that they fight for the God with no conditions other than fighting for him and losing their life. I can't speak for them on that because I am neither religious background myself, so I do not understand the concept of their religion outside of observing it.

However, it would appear that the etiquette that is shown in the warfare has gradually fallen to levels of unacceptability; just like what you said.

But I suppose, as long as the mentality that they're winning their Jihad they'll do what it takes to win.

To quote Phatom Fatoush:
"Your high notes are so beautiful, like a SCUD missile soaring towards it target~"
 
Jiro said:
that is how Israelis want to paint the picture as and they're winning. Remember? their good ole' victim card that always work.

What's not being shown is the PLO's victim card. Let me paint you a picture - Israelis ILLEGALLY demolishing Palestinians' homes with bulldozers, denying Palestinians' access to basic needs, enforcing the unfair sanctions, and randomly shooting at unarmed PLO, and many more. They routinely rounded up Palestinians as "suspected terrorists" and illegally detained them for period of time.
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If the Israelis are so good at playing the victim card (as you say) then why are so many posters supporting the Palestinians? I would say you have it backwards. It's the Palestinians who are playing the victim card, and apparently they and their supporters must be very adept at it because so many people are being suckered by them.
 
Jiro said:
that is how Israelis want to paint the picture as and they're winning. Remember? their good ole' victim card that always work.

What's not being shown is the PLO's victim card. Let me paint you a picture - Israelis ILLEGALLY demolishing Palestinians' homes with bulldozers, denying Palestinians' access to basic needs, enforcing the unfair sanctions, and randomly shooting at unarmed PLO, and many more. They routinely rounded up Palestinians as "suspected terrorists" and illegally detained them for period of time.
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Without derailing this subject too much, I'd like to point out something.

Some members of our media and our politicians are controlled by the Israel lobby. Barack Obama and John McCain were no exception. Obama's silence on this issue is deafening and speaks volumes about whose side he is on. This is one of the few areas where I disagree with Obama.

By allowing Israel to get away with its' crimes, our politicians and media are vindicating them and this only serves to raise the ire of the Arab world.
 
The innocent have always paid the ultimate price in War and conflicts. War over land and power has been going on since biblical times and it will not stop here. Think about this for a minute the time between the foretold rapture and the revelation is suppose to be filled with minor wars and conflicts
 
Reba said:
If the Israelis are so good at playing the victim card (as you say) then why are so many posters supporting the Palestinians? I would say you have it backwards. It's the Palestinians who are playing the victim card, and apparently they and their supporters must be very adept at it because so many people are being suckered by them.
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Many people are being suckered by Israel's claims as well. You could call it an even split.

Do you assume that every single Palestinian is a supporter of Hamas or the PLO? I believe that there are non-supporters of both Hamas/The PLO and the Israeli government. There's got to be people on both sides who are utterly sick of this game being played by their governments.
 
BradB08 said:
Many people are being suckered by Israel's claims as well. You could call it an even split.

Do you assume that every single Palestinian is a supporter of Hamas or the PLO?
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Why do you make assumptions about what I assume? I never stated nor even inferred "that every single Palestinian is a supporter of Hamas or the PLO."
 
Reba said:
If the Israelis are so good at playing the victim card (as you say) then why are so many posters supporting the Palestinians? I would say you have it backwards. It's the Palestinians who are playing the victim card, and apparently they and their supporters must be very adept at it because so many people are being suckered by them.
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I don't fully support either Israel nor PLO. I merely have a solution for both - 50-50 split! ..... just like North Korea-South Korea. Well hey... at least they didn't throw bombs at each other for 50+ years and counting.....
 
BradB08 said:
Many people are being suckered by Israel's claims as well. You could call it an even split.

Do you assume that every single Palestinian is a supporter of Hamas or the PLO? I believe that there are non-supporters of both Hamas/The PLO and the Israeli government. There's got to be people on both sides who are utterly sick of this game being played by their governments.
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True. There are so many of us "suckered" into arguments over this, but who knows the truth? The Palestenians or the holy Israelis who continue this genocide with jets, tanks, sattelite-enhanced weaponry, with no accountability? Time will tell. What goes around comes around.
 
naisho said:
There's one logic that applies to these guys though. They have the Jihadim-concept ritualistic ideas going on, meaning that they fight for the God with no conditions other than fighting for him and losing their life. I can't speak for them on that because I am neither religious background myself, so I do not understand the concept of their religion outside of observing it.

However, it would appear that the etiquette that is shown in the warfare has gradually fallen to levels of unacceptability; just like what you said.

But I suppose, as long as the mentality that they're winning their Jihad they'll do what it takes to win.

To quote Phatom Fatoush:
"Your high notes are so beautiful, like a SCUD missile soaring towards it target~"
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Yes - you are sadly right. But I want to point out that the Arab nations do have a program that discourage youngsters to join the "jihad" and suicide bomber squads and to properly interpret the Koran's teaching because Koran strictly forbid the killings. The terrorist groups makes it sounds too good and too convincing... the whole "honor" thing.
 
Oh man, N/S Korea situation now. However US did intervene not because of land issues, it was due to the growing red scare problem.

Time to go off topic to bring a little humor into this thread..
Anyone watch Frank TV? His impersonation of CBarkley?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akB8gfCMTDg]YouTube - Frank TV: Charles Barkley[/ame]
 
naisho said:
Oh man, N/S Korea situation now. However US did intervene not because of land issues, it was due to the growing red scare problem.
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that was before but I'm talking about post-Korean War. They have come to agreement... a 50-50 split and look at the result. Israel-PLO should do same.

naisho said:
Time to go off topic to bring a little humor into this thread..
Anyone watch Frank TV? His impersonation of CBarkley?

YouTube - Frank TV: Charles Barkley
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You forgot that we're :deaf:, silly. Need CC!!!
 
BradB08 said:
So you all would stand idly by like another group of people, the good Germans that stood silent while the Nazis wiped out millions of people?

Let's see:

The mass killing of Jews = awful
Israel's mass killing of Palestinians = o.k

You tell me if this is correct or not.
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The Arabs didn't just sit back and letting the Holocaust continued. They supported Nazi Party. The pictures proves it.
Photos and Documents of Amin Al Husseini: Nazi Father of Jihad, Al Qaeda, Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Muslim Brotherhood
More on Albania's role in Holocaust.
Islam Watch - "Albanian Muslims' Role in the Holocaust"

All that before the creation of modern Israel. Already the Arabs hate the Jews and the Jewish people didn't have the State of Israel. For what??? Not for the land, that's for sure.
 
Reba said:
If the Israelis are so good at playing the victim card (as you say) then why are so many posters supporting the Palestinians? I would say you have it backwards. It's the Palestinians who are playing the victim card, and apparently they and their supporters must be very adept at it because so many people are being suckered by them.
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Agreed.
 
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