Cued Speech: self-taught?

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Fresh2Deaf

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Hey. Just wondering if anyone out there taught themselves CS successfully, and what materials were used. Anyone use the U Cue, I Cue CD-Rom?

or..... if anyone knows of any CS classes I can take in San Francisco.

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Just a word of caution....Cued Speech isn't a good primary tool, since it's not used too often. It's a good stopgap tool, to use while aquirring fluencey in ASL and English.
 
BHI: Resources

National Cued Speech Association
Information Service/Bookstore
23970 Hermitage Road
Cleveland, OH 44122-4008
Voice/TTY: 800-459-3529
Voice/TTY: 216-292-6213
E-mail: info@cuedspeech.com
Web: National Cued Speech Association
PRESIDENT: Sarina Roffe`
PUBLICATION: Cued Speech Journal, On Cue Newsletter
Editors: Pamela Beck (On Cue)
NCSA and its affiliate centers and chapters champion effective communication, language acquisition, and literacy through the use of Cued Speech. Cued Speech provides the appropriate phonemic language base for literacy. NCSA offers information about Cued Speech use with children and adults with hearing, speech, and language needs. NCSA supports family camps and provides instructor certification, bookstore catalog, Cued Speech charts in more than 50 languages, and referrals/networking.

http://www.cuedspeech.org/sub/resources/findinstructor.asp
 
Well, from what I hear from my new AN group (thx for the info on that by-the-way, HA!) CS is purdy easy. So, once I get that down I plan on slowly mixing in signs. The bright side of AN is that we (son and me) will probably be extremely bonded by going through this process together. Just trying to cover all his bases. Soooo tiring. As if motherhood isn't hard enough. He's lucky he's the cutest thing I'd ever seen in my life!
 
Just a word of caution....Cued Speech isn't a good primary tool, since it's not used too often. It's a good stopgap tool, to use while aquirring fluencey in ASL and English.
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Cued Speech is not a good primary tool, since it's not used too often? Just because it isn't used often, doesn't mean it isn't a good primary tool. I have talked to successful Cued Speech user.

It's a good thing to try because it's pretty easy to learn. Fresh2Deaf won't know until she tries.
 
Fresh2Deaf -

Here is a contact in California. This program is affiliated with the NCSA.

WEST COAST CUED SPEECH PROGRAMS
348 Cernon Street, Suite D
Vacaville, CA 95688
707-448-4060
LRupert601@aol.com

Joan is a wealth of information and knowledge regarding cueing.
 
Fresh2Deaf said:
Well, from what I hear from my new AN group (thx for the info on that by-the-way, HA!) CS is purdy easy. So, once I get that down I plan on slowly mixing in signs. The bright side of AN is that we (son and me) will probably be extremely bonded by going through this process together. Just trying to cover all his bases. Soooo tiring. As if motherhood isn't hard enough. He's lucky he's the cutest thing I'd ever seen in my life!
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Fresh2Deaf - It is wonderful to see that you have been able to connect with the AN group. They are indeed an amazing supportive group of parents. :)

Have you been able to connect with Dr. Berlin?
 
Fresh2Deaf said:
Hey. Just wondering if anyone out there taught themselves CS successfully, and what materials were used. Anyone use the U Cue, I Cue CD-Rom?

or..... if anyone knows of any CS classes I can take in San Francisco.

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR RESPONSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hello Fresh2Deaf - U Cue, I Cue is a fantastic CD! This was developed by two women who have extensive experience with CS and the teaching of CS.

You go girl!
 
Fresh2Deaf said:
Well, from what I hear from my new AN group (thx for the info on that by-the-way, HA!) CS is purdy easy. So, once I get that down I plan on slowly mixing in signs. The bright side of AN is that we (son and me) will probably be extremely bonded by going through this process together. Just trying to cover all his bases. Soooo tiring. As if motherhood isn't hard enough. He's lucky he's the cutest thing I'd ever seen in my life!
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If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
 
Well, from what I hear from my new AN group (thx for the info on that by-the-way, HA!) CS is purdy easy. So, once I get that down I plan on slowly mixing in signs.
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Excellent! Have you contacted any local Deaf groups/schools etc?
ClearSky, what I meant by that is that while it's a good tool/methodology, it shouldn't be the primary/main one, b/c it's not used too much. It would be like raising a kid to primarly speak Esperanto instead of the language used by the larger community.
 
deafdyke said:
Excellent! Have you contacted any local Deaf groups/schools etc?
ClearSky, what I meant by that is that while it's a good tool/methodology, it shouldn't be the primary/main one, b/c it's not used too much. It would be like raising a kid to primarly speak Esperanto instead of the language used by the larger community.
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Deafdyke - English is "used by the larger community".
 
deafdyke said:
Excellent! Have you contacted any local Deaf groups/schools etc?
ClearSky, what I meant by that is that while it's a good tool/methodology, it shouldn't be the primary/main one, b/c it's not used too much. It would be like raising a kid to primarly speak Esperanto instead of the language used by the larger community.
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I still don't feel that you make any sense. Cued Speech can be taught to teach any language. It's a tool to visually see your speech sounds. Cued Speech has no language. I have known of successfull Cued Speech users who are raised in their home environment using English. I am assuming that by "instead of the language used by the larger community" you mean ASL? Well, the cuers I have spoken to are not ASL users, but they have done successfully with it. It's not "raising a kid to primarly speak Esperanto." The child will speak the normal language of the family.

Let the mom try what she feels is best. It's obvious the mom's done her research. I feel it's discouraging to tell parents not to use it as a primary tool of communication if they want to try it just because it's not of the larger community which I think you mean ASL? People outside the family don't have to use Cued Speech for Cued Speech to be a useful tool.
 
Actually I GOT IT. The meaning behind the cues is the same as English....but on the other hand not too many people (including hearie English fluent people) are familiar with the methodology per se. It would be like using Morse Code as a primary communication device, when everyone speaks plain English. Understand now?
 
So much info.... so confusing....

I just want to do what's best for him. Geeeeezzzzzz...... too bad you make good points DeafDyke. Now I'm confused. Morse code. Yeah... it is kinda like that, huh?

Someone make a good counterpoint, because my mojo just got messed up. =(

Seems like everytime I feel like I got it all figured out something happens where it's like, "NO YOU DON'T...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!" And boom, the worst. Well, my son being deaf isn't the worst worst worst. But it's still very very new.

CS, no good?

Who knows. I know it's my decision alone. (oh and dad, duh)
 
English in the brain........

deafdyke said:
Actually I GOT IT. The meaning behind the cues is the same as English....but on the other hand not too many people (including hearie English fluent people) are familiar with the methodology per se. It would be like using Morse Code as a primary communication device, when everyone speaks plain English. Understand now?
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deafdyke - The meaning behind the cues is the sounds of spoken English. The sounds are processed in the auditory cortex of the brain, enabling the person, for some reason to "hear" the sounds. The ole "inner voice" business. Go figure!

People (hearing or deaf) may not be familiar with the Cued Speech, but knowing/using cued English supports the cuer with understanding spoken English"when everyone around speaks plain English". Certainly a bonus in my books!
 
Fresh2Deaf said:
So much info.... so confusing....

I just want to do what's best for him. Geeeeezzzzzz...... too bad you make good points DeafDyke. Now I'm confused. Morse code. Yeah... it is kinda like that, huh?

Someone make a good counterpoint, because my mojo just got messed up. =(

Seems like everytime I feel like I got it all figured out something happens where it's like, "NO YOU DON'T...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!" And boom, the worst. Well, my son being deaf isn't the worst worst worst. But it's still very very new.

CS, no good?

Who knows. I know it's my decision alone. (oh and dad, duh)
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You are the one caring for your child. That's the important thing. The important thing to know is this.. No ONE approach is the THE ANSWER. Try several approaches. Try them in combination with others. Cued Speech is great, but I would NOT use it as a primary tool. Most of us on here would advocate for a "full toolbox approach." That being, modalities to teach an oral and a visual language. Having both speech AND sign can only benefit your little one.

I would advise you to take ALL our responses into acct. I would also advise you to seek out and connect with the deaf community where you live. Also, talk to your child's audi. But, I would strongly advise NOT TO allow anyone to make this decision for you. ONLY you can decide what is best for your child and his or her future.

Good luck!
 
deafdyke - CS is not like Morse Code. Morse code represents, among other things, the letters of the alphabet. CS is the sounds that these letters make. Huge difference!
 
deafdyke said:
Actually I GOT IT. The meaning behind the cues is the same as English....but on the other hand not too many people (including hearie English fluent people) are familiar with the methodology per se. It would be like using Morse Code as a primary communication device, when everyone speaks plain English. Understand now?
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No.
 
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