Excitement Growing in Germany as Obama Speech Nears

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Yea I heard news that many of countries in Europe are pretty very excited to have a new president because they was tired of Bush, I wonder if that was true?
 
Excitement doesn't always equal support. Here's another viewpoint of the Obama rock tour:

Europe's governments immune to Obama-fever
By: Noah Barkin - Analysis
Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:33am EDT

BERLIN (Reuters) - European fans will cheer on U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama as he visits Berlin, Paris and London this week, but governments wary of his inexperience and evolving policies fear the euphoria is overdone.

Largely an unknown quantity in Europe, the Democratic contender is due to land here on Thursday, kicking off the second part of a foreign tour that began in the Middle East with a speech on trans-Atlantic relations in the German capital.

His appearance at the "Victory Column" in Berlin's central Tiergarten park is expected to draw huge crowds and is being likened in advance to former president John F. Kennedy's celebrated "Ich bin ein Berliner" performance of 1963.

But in the German Chancellery a few hundred meters away there is unease with the Illinois senator's cult-like following and skepticism about whether he can live up to the hype.

"There is a sort of Obama-mania in Germany right now, but I think a lot of people will have their illusions shattered if he does become president," an official in Chancellor Angela Merkel's office told Reuters[/B], requesting anonymity.

Some European officials recalled how difficult trans-Atlantic relations were in the first few years of President Bill Clinton's administration because of his inexperience and the time it took to get his team into place.

"It is not the inexperience of Obama that should concern people but more the risk of a vacuum for a while," one EU diplomat said.

But a survey released by the Pew Research Center last week showed Germans vastly prefer Obama over John McCain, his Republican challenger for the presidency, by a 49 point margin. In France it is an even wider 51 point margin and in Britain 30.

Obama's vow to pull U.S. troops out of Iraq and talk with Iran have won him admirers in Europe -- particularly in Germany and France, countries that opposed the Iraq war and where President George W. Bush remains deeply unpopular because of the military adventures of his first term.

Yet politicians and diplomats from Berlin to Brussels say that if Bush's second term is used as a benchmark, neither an Obama nor a McCain presidency is likely to lead to any dramatic shift in U.S. foreign policy.

"One reason Obama is so popular here is that people expect him to break radically with the politics of Bush, without any understanding of what this would involve," said Eckart von Klaeden, a German parliamentarian and foreign policy expert in Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU).

He likened the huge crowds Obama is expected to draw in Europe to those that cheered on former Chancellor Helmut Kohl during the build-up to German unification. Kohl's fans turned against him when his promises of "flourishing landscapes" in eastern Germany failed to materialize.

"Euphoria in politics is an invitation for disappointment," von Klaeden said.

DEMANDS ON EUROPE

Diplomats in Brussels said they believed Obama would be better able to articulate a post-9/11 policy agenda than McCain, but predicted new demands on Europe regardless of who emerges victorious in the U.S. election in November.

These demands are expected to include tougher sanctions on Iran and a greater European military, civilian and economic engagement in Afghanistan.

A change in the White House could have the biggest impact on Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, both of whom have developed close ties to Bush in recent years.

Merkel, who has regular video-conference exchanges with Bush, and Sarkozy, who visited the U.S. president at his family home in Kennebunkport, Maine, could see their influence in Washington wane in the short-term under Obama.[/B]

The same can be said for Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who has made plain his "very personal preference" for McCain. Berlusconi's centre-left challenger in a May election, Walter Veltroni, had a campaign slogan borrowed from Obama -- "Yes we can" -- and compared himself to the U.S. Democrat.

In conservative Poland, there are fears an Obama administration could row back on the Bush administration's plans to deploy a missile shield in central Europe, leaving Warsaw to pick up the pieces.[/B]

"The problem with Obama is that we still don't know very much about what he thinks on foreign policy, he is tabula rasa," said Rafal Trzaskowski, an analyst at the Natolin European Centre, a Warsaw think tank.[/B]

"We know what McCain stands for, we know who we are dealing with," he added. "Obama stands for change, he is an energetic, self-made man, and that is heart-warming, but we need to know more about his policies."

(Additional reporting by Paul Taylor and Mark John in Brussels, Gareth Jones in Warsaw, Stephen Brown in Rome, Crispian Balmer in Paris; Editing by Douglas Hamilton)
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Anyway, Euros can't vote in American elections, so it doesn't really matter. :P
 
PuyoPiyo - I believe that many Europeans are sick of the same group of people for years. They want to see fresh new faces and better new ways. Bushes and Clinton had enough troubles in the past. Actually, Clinton is a good man who understood things going on, but he had a personal problem on other side that it is not our business.

I would say that Obama is probably a good man because he is so new and stays away the old troubled groups. We still do not know who will be a vice-president.

I found out that McCain never taught in computer and internet. He uses his old fashion ways. I am really surprised that Bush is really afraid to write an email. We really know that he has dyslexia. He really depends on Dick's help for all of his paperwork in a quiet office since he became the president. Dick is a virtual U.S. President, not Vice-President. Glups! Obama has many abilities to use anything like a cell-phone, pagers, computers, etc.
 
Simple answer to Reba's link is: Because we know Chancellor Angela Merkel support McCain. Mind you, she is not Democratic as Obama. :P
 
PuyoPiyo - I believe that many Europeans are sick of the same group of people for years. They want to see fresh new faces and better new ways. Bushes and Clinton had enough troubles in the past. Actually, Clinton is a good man who understood things going on, but he had a personal problem on other side that it is not our business.

Yupp that makes sense :) I agree, Bill Clinton was not so bad.

I would say that Obama is probably a good man because he is so new and stays away the old troubled groups. We still do not know who will be a vice-president.

*nods* Same here..

I found out that McCain never taught in computer and internet. He uses his old fashion ways. I am really surprised that Bush is really afraid to write an email. We really know that he has dyslexia. He really depends on Dick's help for all of his paperwork in a quiet office since he became the president. Dick is a virtual U.S. President, not Vice-President. Glups! Obama has many abilities to use anything like a cell-phone, pagers, computers, etc.

:eek3: Wow, interesting, thank you for sharing!
 
PuyoPiyo - I believe that many Europeans are sick of the same group of people for years. They want to see fresh new faces and better new ways. Bushes and Clinton had enough troubles in the past. Actually, Clinton is a good man who understood things going on, but he had a personal problem on other side that it is not our business.

I would say that Obama is probably a good man because he is so new and stays away the old troubled groups. We still do not know who will be a vice-president.

I found out that McCain never taught in computer and internet. He uses his old fashion ways. I am really surprised that Bush is really afraid to write an email. We really know that he has dyslexia. He really depends on Dick's help for all of his paperwork in a quiet office since he became the president. Dick is a virtual U.S. President, not Vice-President. Glups! Obama has many abilities to use anything like a cell-phone, pagers, computers, etc.

Yes, that's right but we Europeans do not complaint anything about Clinton's presidency time. We don't care about his affair scandal but all what we do is :roll: but mainly important is we care what and how Clinton doing his job as president good.

Yes, we are too tired of Bush... We do feel that he harm many countries in the world.

I learn about McCain and don't like him for his personality and character. To my view, he is an arrogant.


 
Yea I heard news that many of countries in Europe are pretty very excited to have a new president because they was tired of Bush, I wonder if that was true?

Yes, it's true.
 
...I would say that Obama is probably a good man because he is so new and stays away the old troubled groups. We still do not know who will be a vice-president.
Where did you get the idea that Obama "stays away the troubled groups"? He has known associations with several bad characters.


I found out that McCain never taught in computer and internet. He uses his old fashion ways.
So? Why does he need to waste his time surfing the web or chatting at My Space? Presidents have staffs to take care of the daily work, and they have more important things to do then create blogs or bid on eBay.

If you think he doesn't have the technological mind set to use a computer, I'd like to see you fly a fighter jet in combat.


I am really surprised that Bush is really afraid to write an email.
I'd like to see the proof that Bush is "afraid" of email.


We really know that he has dyslexia.
You know that for a fact, huh? Even if he did have dyslexia, so what? How does that effect anything? He did graduate from college.


He really depends on Dick's help for all of his paperwork in a quiet office since he became the president. Dick is a virtual U.S. President, not Vice-President.
Proof please.

Glups! Obama has many abilities to use anything like a cell-phone, pagers, computers, etc.
Wow, if that's the criteria for President, then every 13-year-old American is qualified!

How silly! :lol:
 
The Obama trip to Germany is nothing but a pure electioneering in disguise, IMHO.
 
Where did you get the idea that Obama "stays away the troubled groups"? He has known associations with several bad characters.



So? Why does he need to waste his time surfing the web or chatting at My Space? Presidents have staffs to take care of the daily work, and they have more important things to do then create blogs or bid on eBay.

If you think he doesn't have the technological mind set to use a computer, I'd like to see you fly a fighter jet in combat.



I'd like to see the proof that Bush is "afraid" of email.



You know that for a fact, huh? Even if he did have dyslexia, so what? How does that effect anything? He did graduate from college.



Proof please.


Wow, if that's the criteria for President, then every 13-year-old American is qualified!

How silly! :lol:

:dizzy:

Webexplorer tried to say that McCain and Obama have different taste... McCain use his old fashioned way and Obama prefer to use his modern way.

Get it?

 
:dizzy:
Webexplorer tried to say that McCain and Obama have different taste... McCain use his old fashioned way and Obama prefer to use his modern way.
Get it?
Yes, I "get it". It's not an important factor in choosing a President.
 
I watched the Obama speech in Germany live on TV. It was :zzz:
Not stirring like the way JFK and Reagan speeches were.
 
The important thing is, Obama did not commit to a quick massage and run on the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel.
 
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