Payroll tax delema

airportcop · 12-19-2011, 03:43 PM

Boehner Rejects Senate Payroll Bill, Pushes for 1-Year Deal - Yahoo! News

Our government needs to get it together! Compromise one way or the other or get out! I hope they all stay in Washington until the new year! Why can't we have a year long agreement on the tax cut and pass the oil pipeline creating more U.S. jobs? It is simply greed and failure to compromise! Flush them all and start from scratch!

rolling7 · 12-19-2011, 04:22 PM

Just make sure all the newbies are neither Democrats nor Republicians.

Beach girl · 12-19-2011, 04:27 PM

The Washington Post nominated Congress for the entity "having the worst year ever," for failing to live up to even the remarkably low expectations the public has for it.

**TWA** · 12-19-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beach girl

The Washington Post nominated Congress for the entity "having the worst year ever," for failing to live up to even the remarkably low expectations the public has for it.

I'm outraged! I'm appalled! Why, I'd love to get a group together and march down to the Capitol and drag the whole lot out into the streets and . . .

. . . but I'm too busy posting on AD.

. . . and Switched At Birth season premiere will be on in a few weeks!

. . . and it's almost time for the playoffs!

. . . and I need a beer!

. . . hmm, that's funny; I thought there was something I was thinking about doing. Oh well.

tasty!

**TWA** · 12-19-2011, 08:44 PM

^^ America in a nutshell.

jillio · 12-19-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

^^ America in a nutshell.

There it is in black and white.

**deafskeptic** · 12-20-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

I'm outraged! I'm appalled! Why, I'd love to get a group together and march down to the Capitol and drag the whole lot out into the streets and . . .

. . . but I'm too busy posting on AD.

. . . and Switched At Birth season premiere will be on in a few weeks!

. . . and it's almost time for the playoffs!

. . . and I need a beer!

. . . hmm, that's funny; I thought there was something I was thinking about doing. Oh well.

tasty!

Now I want a porter!

rolling7 · 12-21-2011, 01:00 PM

As I recall, back in September Obama wanted a one year extention. Now he wants two months.........the wind must have change.

jillio · 12-21-2011, 01:21 PM

Naw, the wind hasn't changed. It is still carrying that same old GOP stink.

**TWA** · 12-21-2011, 07:37 PM

Ah, quite the DILEMMA we have here

Kevin73 · 12-21-2011, 08:22 PM

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As I recall, back in September Obama wanted a one year extention. Now he wants two months.........the wind must have change.

He does want it extended for a full year! Do you even know how or why the two month plan is even being proposed? Some people are just to blinded by ideology. Why couldn’t Republicans just pass a clean bill instead of attaching a bunch of riders to it?

airportcop · 12-22-2011, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin73

He does want it extended for a full year! Do you even know how or why the two month plan is even being proposed? Some people are just to blinded by ideology. Why couldn’t Republicans just pass a clean bill instead of attaching a bunch of riders to it?

It's because they want something bigger like jobs for America! Aka; the pipeline across America! And since this tax cut has only been temporary it hasn't been that much of a break for most people. I agree that we are over taxed and that we should get the tax break but that is just the tip of the iceberg!

DeafCaroline · 12-22-2011, 07:28 AM

I just learned this morning that the US debt is now 2% greater than the GDP.

**Beowulf** · 12-22-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

Ah, quite the DILEMMA we have here

You mean DILEMNA?

**TWA** · 12-22-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

You mean DILEMNA?

Turn on your automatic spell checker

DeafCaroline · 12-22-2011, 06:36 PM

Good news - Republicans just caved in and agreed to two month extension deal -
"(Reuters) - House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner on Thursday caved in to a growing chorus of criticism from both within and outside his Republican party and agreed to a short-term deal to extend a payroll tax cut for 160 million Americans....Republican leaders feared fierce backlash from voters in the 2012 elections and many Republican lawmakers were already getting an earful from constituents back home. Had the deal failed to materialize, they were looking at an effective $1,000-a-year tax increase on the average worker starting on January 1.

"If they had continued to dig in on this they risked losing the Senate in 2012 and handing President Obama the election without even having a fight," said Ford O'Connell, a Republican strategist."

Speaker Boehner bows to pressure on tax deal | Reuters

**Reba** · 12-22-2011, 07:28 PM

This shows how each Congressman voted:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll949.xml

airportcop · 12-22-2011, 07:38 PM

Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly but it looks like to me the Republicans clearly voted in favor of it and the Democrats clearly voted against it? Am I wrong?

DeafCaroline · 12-22-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

This shows how each Congressman voted:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll949.xml

Strange, the Republicans gave in today to the 2 month extension. That vote you linked to was two days ago and it was a vote on the year long tax holiday to be extended through December 2012 which was conditional on approving the Keystone pipeline. That is why there were more nays from the Democrats.

Office of the Clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives

**TXgolfer** · 12-22-2011, 08:11 PM

Sadly not many realize this "payroll tax cut" is just a fancy way of borrowing from SS and Medicare

kokonut · 12-22-2011, 08:18 PM

True. Payroll tax cut takes money away from SS and Medicare.

**Reba** · 12-22-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Strange, the Republicans gave in today to the 2 month extension. That vote you linked to was two days ago and it was a vote on the year long tax holiday to be extended through December 2012 which was conditional on approving the Keystone pipeline. That is why there were more nays from the Democrats.

Office of the Clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives

Oops! Sorry. I clicked the wrong link.

**TWA** · 12-22-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Sadly not many realize this "payroll tax cut" is just a fancy way of borrowing from SS and Medicare

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Originally Posted by kokonut

True. Payroll tax cut takes money away from SS and Medicare.

Most of the national debt is borrowed against SS as well, BTW.

**Beowulf** · 12-22-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Sadly not many realize this "payroll tax cut" is just a fancy way of borrowing from SS and Medicare

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

True. Payroll tax cut takes money away from SS and Medicare.

Not really. It just reduces revenue for them.

**TXgolfer** · 12-22-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

Most of the national debt is borrowed against SS as well, BTW.

Scary isn't it. Where are the going to come up with the cash to pay those bonds???

**TXgolfer** · 12-22-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Not really. It just reduces revenue for them.

Depends on how you mean that

**Beowulf** · 12-22-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Depends on how you mean that

Yes it does.

kokonut · 12-22-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Scary isn't it. Where are the going to come up with the cash to pay those bonds???

Start drilling for our own oil and gas to the point of total energy independency, and get into the oil exporting business.

**Beowulf** · 12-22-2011, 08:40 PM

Start changing the infrastructure for fusion energy. *shrugs*

**TWA** · 12-22-2011, 09:35 PM

Wirelessly posted

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

Most of the national debt is borrowed against SS as well, BTW.

Scary isn't it. Where are the going to come up with the cash to pay those bonds???

A printing press. Duh.

12-19-2011, 03:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
airportcop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,088	Payroll tax delema Boehner Rejects Senate Payroll Bill, Pushes for 1-Year Deal - Yahoo! News Our government needs to get it together! Compromise one way or the other or get out! I hope they all stay in Washington until the new year! Why can't we have a year long agreement on the tax cut and pass the oil pipeline creating more U.S. jobs? It is simply greed and failure to compromise! Flush them all and start from scratch! __________________ Romans 12:12 (NIV) Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.

12-19-2011, 04:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	Just make sure all the newbies are neither Democrats nor Republicians. airportcop likes this.

12-19-2011, 04:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Beach girl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: northern Virginia in winter; NC in summer Posts: 3,760	The Washington Post nominated Congress for the entity "having the worst year ever," for failing to live up to even the remarkably low expectations the public has for it. airportcop likes this.

12-21-2011, 01:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Naw, the wind hasn't changed. It is still carrying that same old GOP stink. Kevin73 likes this.

12-22-2011, 07:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
airportcop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,088	Maybe I'm not understanding this correctly but it looks like to me the Republicans clearly voted in favor of it and the Democrats clearly voted against it? Am I wrong? __________________ Romans 12:12 (NIV) Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.

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12-19-2011, 08:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
TWA Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,374	^^ America in a nutshell.

12-21-2011, 01:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	As I recall, back in September Obama wanted a one year extention. Now he wants two months.........the wind must have change.

12-21-2011, 07:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
TWA Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,374	Ah, quite the DILEMMA we have here

12-22-2011, 07:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	I just learned this morning that the US debt is now 2% greater than the GDP.

12-22-2011, 06:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	Good news - Republicans just caved in and agreed to two month extension deal - "(Reuters) - House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner on Thursday caved in to a growing chorus of criticism from both within and outside his Republican party and agreed to a short-term deal to extend a payroll tax cut for 160 million Americans....Republican leaders feared fierce backlash from voters in the 2012 elections and many Republican lawmakers were already getting an earful from constituents back home. Had the deal failed to materialize, they were looking at an effective $1,000-a-year tax increase on the average worker starting on January 1. "If they had continued to dig in on this they risked losing the Senate in 2012 and handing President Obama the election without even having a fight," said Ford O'Connell, a Republican strategist." Speaker Boehner bows to pressure on tax deal \| Reuters

12-22-2011, 07:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
Reba Granny Terp Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 39,163	This shows how each Congressman voted: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll949.xml

12-22-2011, 08:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
TXgolfer Dream Weaver Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Everywhere Posts: 17,636	Sadly not many realize this "payroll tax cut" is just a fancy way of borrowing from SS and Medicare airportcop likes this. __________________ Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. - Romans 12:21 Sometimes at night, I see their faces. I feel the traces they've left on my soul

12-22-2011, 08:18 PM	#21 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	True. Payroll tax cut takes money away from SS and Medicare. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

12-22-2011, 08:40 PM	#29 (permalink)
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