Kim Jong II is dead

lanapoo · 12-18-2011, 09:26 PM

North Korean leader Kim Jong Il dead, state TV reports - CNN.com

Discuss away.

Do you think that his son will be far off more evil than his father?

**TXgolfer** · 12-18-2011, 09:28 PM

I fear he will be worse... I guess we will find out soon

**Bottesini** · 12-18-2011, 09:32 PM

The prediction is that he will be much worse. I think a strong strain of madness runs in that family.

kokonut · 12-18-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I fear he will be worse... I guess we will find out soon

I think so, too.

**TXgolfer** · 12-18-2011, 10:36 PM

Stock in Speco and Victek is rallying now. We are not the only one's thinking this.

sara1981 · 12-18-2011, 10:40 PM

N Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies
BBC News - N Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies

BREAKING NEWS: North Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies at 69
BREAKING NEWS: North Korean leader Kim Jong Il dies at 69 | Mail Online

North Korea's Kim Jong-il dies aged 69
North Korea's Kim Jong-il dies aged 69 - Telegraph

North Korean Leader Kim Jong Il Has Died
North Korean Leader Kim Jong Il Has Died, State Television Says | World News | Sky News

North Korean leader Kim Jong Il has died
North Korean leader Kim Jong Il has died - CBS News

Rest in Peace

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jillio · 12-18-2011, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

The prediction is that he will be much worse. I think a strong strain of madness runs in that family.

And it grows stonger with each generation.

sara1981 · 12-18-2011, 10:44 PM

I did same post!

Sunshine · 12-18-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sara1981

I did same post!

75 minutes later

**Dixie** · 12-18-2011, 10:48 PM

The son was to my knowledge educated in Europe in a private boarding school and has been working for his father as a military general of sorts.

I've been told he is very spoiled and is likely to be worse than his father. Then again, he might be more compassionate than his father and slowly make changes for the better, such as doing away with the labor camps where abuse occurs (mostly wishful thinking on my part).

Steel X · 12-18-2011, 11:04 PM

You never listen, do you sara...? You don't. I've asked you politely to PLEASE post just at least one link. We can find other resources on our own, thank you.

Anyway, I wonder if his death is a good thing since this is a whacky, evil guy we are talking about.

AlleyCat · 12-18-2011, 11:05 PM

Already posted earlier.

**Dixie** · 12-18-2011, 11:17 PM

Rest in Peace?

I seriously doubt this guy is resting in peace. He was a very cruel and brutal dictator of N. Korea. He kept his citizens cut off from the outside world. Any defectors are killed and their families are sentenced to labor camps where they are beaten and starved and forced to do heavy manual labor as punishment. Their families often never make it out of the labor camps alive, and to be honest few people make it out of the labor camps alive. If they don't die of malnutrition, dehydration, or a severe beating, they die of illness or disease as medical care at these camps is non-existent.

He forced his people to revere him as a living god and any deviation from this guarantees death. North Koreans worship their leaders as deities out of fear of execution. Only the most loyal citizens get a halfway decent life, meaning they are given the basic necessities to live.

jillio · 12-18-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

The son was to my knowledge educated in Europe in a private boarding school and has been working for his father as a military general of sorts.

I've been told he is very spoiled and is likely to be worse than his father. Then again, he might be more compassionate than his father and slowly make changes for the better, such as doing away with the labor camps where abuse occurs (mostly wishful thinking on my part).

You know I love ya' Dixie, but yeah, this one is wishful thinking on your part.

**Dixie** · 12-18-2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

You know I love ya' Dixie, but yeah, this one is wishful thinking on your part.

I also wish for peace in the Middle East!

But seriously, I hope things eventually do improve for the North Korean people that have suffered under brutal communist rule for decades, sounds like they are in for decades more of the same crap as the successor is in his 20's.

jillio · 12-18-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

I also wish for peace in the Middle East!

But seriously, I hope things eventually do improve for the North Korean people that have suffered under brutal communist rule for decades, sounds like they are in for decades more of the same crap as the successor is in his 20's.

I hope so, as well. I'm just not laying any bets on it.

**Dixie** · 12-18-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

I hope so, as well. I'm just not laying any bets on it.

I'm not, but just saying that like I wish I would get handed 10 billion dollars tomorrow but I'm not betting on it.

nexusboi · 12-19-2011, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie

The son was to my knowledge educated in Europe in a private boarding school and has been working for his father as a military general of sorts.

I've been told he is very spoiled and is likely to be worse than his father. Then again, he might be more compassionate than his father and slowly make changes for the better, such as doing away with the labor camps where abuse occurs (mostly wishful thinking on my part).

I agree with you.

My gut tells me that he will let North Korea and South Korea to unite. Not right away. just slowly. Who knows.

**Jiro** · 12-19-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nexusboi

I agree with you.

My gut tells me that he will let North Korea and South Korea to unite. Not right away. just slowly. Who knows.

not gonna happen. not in my generation.

nexusboi · 12-19-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

not gonna happen. not in my generation.

We'll see...

Steel X · 12-19-2011, 01:19 AM

I hear that everyone are saying his son will take over.

**Jiro** · 12-19-2011, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lanapoo

North Korean leader Kim Jong Il dead, state TV reports - CNN.com

Discuss away.

Do you think that his son will be far off more evil than his father?

It was funny how Kim Jong Il chose which one to be the next successor. He picked his youngest son (Kim Jong-Un) because he is more educated and focused. Other son (Kim Jong-Chol) is a womanizer and too girly... undesirable trait and image for dictatorship. His oldest son (Kim Jong-Nam) was a constant embarrassment to him so he was taken out of picture.

but IMO - my only concern is that there will be 2 scenarios.

Scenario A - a power struggle between powerful people and Kim Jong-Un. If this is the case, it can get messy.

Scenario B - Kim Jong-Un will open his gate to rogue nations and have a "FOR SALE" business - selling/manufacturing its dangerous weapons to any interested parties.

**Jiro** · 12-19-2011, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by nexusboi

We'll see...

don't need to. I'm Korean

Steel X · 12-19-2011, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sara1981

I did same post!

and a post with too many links, to add.

Steel X · 12-19-2011, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nexusboi

We'll see...

He's right. It'll never happen.

**TWA** · 12-19-2011, 01:46 AM

This should be interesting. . . .

And, he died of "overwork?" Yeah right. I think sonny boy Simba just could not wait to be king.

kokonut · 12-19-2011, 01:51 AM

A bit of arsenic over time will do the trick.

Royale · 12-19-2011, 06:12 AM

Look at North Korean sign language interpreter.

**Reba** · 12-19-2011, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Look at North Korean sign language interpreter.

For those who couldn't hear the newscaster, her voice was extremely distraught sounding. She was really choked up and upset. Her face didn't show as much emotion as her voice did.

**Reba** · 12-19-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

don't need to. I'm Korean

On the news, they show many N. Korean individuals very upset and crying about his death. To what do you ascribe all the tearful emotion? Are the people really heartbroken that a beloved leader died? Or are they in high anxiety over what the new leader might bring to them? Or is it something else? What reaction do you get from your parents and their friends and relatives?

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Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	The son was to my knowledge educated in Europe in a private boarding school and has been working for his father as a military general of sorts. I've been told he is very spoiled and is likely to be worse than his father. Then again, he might be more compassionate than his father and slowly make changes for the better, such as doing away with the labor camps where abuse occurs (mostly wishful thinking on my part). __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

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Steel X Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Carolinas/Rochester, NY. Posts: 13,824	You never listen, do you sara...? You don't. I've asked you politely to PLEASE post just at least one link. We can find other resources on our own, thank you. Anyway, I wonder if his death is a good thing since this is a whacky, evil guy we are talking about. snallga likes this.

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Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	Rest in Peace? I seriously doubt this guy is resting in peace. He was a very cruel and brutal dictator of N. Korea. He kept his citizens cut off from the outside world. Any defectors are killed and their families are sentenced to labor camps where they are beaten and starved and forced to do heavy manual labor as punishment. Their families often never make it out of the labor camps alive, and to be honest few people make it out of the labor camps alive. If they don't die of malnutrition, dehydration, or a severe beating, they die of illness or disease as medical care at these camps is non-existent. He forced his people to revere him as a living god and any deviation from this guarantees death. North Koreans worship their leaders as deities out of fear of execution. Only the most loyal citizens get a halfway decent life, meaning they are given the basic necessities to live. warpedpink likes this. __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

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Steel X Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Carolinas/Rochester, NY. Posts: 13,824	I hear that everyone are saying his son will take over.

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TWA Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,374	This should be interesting. . . . And, he died of "overwork?" Yeah right. I think sonny boy Simba just could not wait to be king.

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