Cheney warns of new attacks - Page 4

Banjo · 02-05-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Use your concept.

I think you meant common sense.

DURAY · 02-05-2009, 10:01 PM

I could see smoke the 9/11 attack at the Pentagon from my office. People at my workplace rotated to Iraq and Afghanistan and now they emailed that it is like Clinton all over again, the Taliban or the isnurgents can attackw ithout risk of American retaliation. The liberals are in cathoot with the terrorists liek the Socialists did in Greece (November ), Germany (Rad Army), France (Directe Action), etc.

Banjo · 02-05-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

I could see smoke the 9/11 attack at the Pentagon from my office. People at my workplace rotated to Iraq and Afghanistan and now they emailed that it is like Clinton all over again, the Taliban or the isnurgents can attackw ithout risk of American retaliation. The liberals are in cathoot with the terrorists liek the Socialists did in Greece (November ), Germany (Rad Army), France (Directe Action), etc.

... are you actually blaming the Obama administration? He hasn't been in the office long enough to make a difference over there in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If so, then you are a moron.

Maria · 02-05-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

I think you meant common sense.

Yes, that's what I mean.Thanks.

Beowulf · 02-05-2009, 10:13 PM

Sounds like Cheney's trigger finger is itching again. He is dying to shoot someone in the face again. This "warning" from him sounds like a threat. Unpleasant chap.

DURAY · 02-05-2009, 10:34 PM

thank you very much. Clinton did nothing (as proved by former FBI agent Bill Rewell) and Obama bin Laden assumed the U.S. will not attack at 9/11. man, he was wrong. the first bomb from the B-52 killed thousands of Talibans fighters in one place.

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Originally Posted by Banjo

... are you actually blaming the Obama administration? He hasn't been in the office long enough to make a difference over there in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If so, then you are a moron.

Banjo · 02-05-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

thank you very much. Clinton did nothing (as proved by former FBI agent Bill Rewell) and Obama bin Laden assumed the U.S. will not attack at 9/11. man, he was wrong. the first bomb from the B-52 killed thousands of Talibans fighters in one place.

You didn't answer my question.

Hear Again · 02-05-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

thank you very much. Clinton did nothing (as proved by former FBI agent Bill Rewell) and Obama bin Laden assumed the U.S. will not attack at 9/11. man, he was wrong. the first bomb from the B-52 killed thousands of Talibans fighters in one place.

obama made the assumption that "the u.s. will not attack at 9/11?" proof, please.

Hear Again · 02-05-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

... are you actually blaming the Obama administration? He hasn't been in the office long enough to make a difference over there in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If so, then you are a moron.

that's right, banjo. what i find ironic is how some people can blame obama for things he has absolutely no responsibility for. heck, he hasn't even been in office for a month.

Hear Again · 02-05-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

I could see smoke the 9/11 attack at the Pentagon from my office. People at my workplace rotated to Iraq and Afghanistan and now they emailed that it is like Clinton all over again, the Taliban or the isnurgents can attackw ithout risk of American retaliation. The liberals are in cathoot with the terrorists liek the Socialists did in Greece (November ), Germany (Rad Army), France (Directe Action), etc.

the liberals are in cahoots with terrorists? proof, please.

jillio · 02-05-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Huh ? Who said I stayed home all the time ?? And, you are tellin' me it's time for me to see a therapist ? Gee, you don't know me. You and others tend to think that I am worried over a little thing such as terrorism.

Okay, I will give you an example: I can drive a car and keep my eyes peeled to be sure that other drivers don't do crazy things like hittin' other drivers on the road... and, yet I STILL drive. It doesn't mean that I can't GO OUT and DRIVE just because I am worried that others will hit me. Soo that means, I CAN GO OUT and do my business -- if, I see a terrorist near me or anywhere near me, I will do somethin' to avoid " danger " --- same thing with drivin' on the road. Understand ?? It is not necessary for me to stay home all the time like you would like to think.

FYI, I don't need to see a therapist.

How is it, exactly, that you could identify a person as a terrorist? You have to be able to identitfy a terrorist before you can take action to protect yourself from them. The last I checked, terroists don't wear badges identifying themselves as terrorists. So how could you, as an average citizen of the U.S., identify anyone as a terrorist?

Maria · 02-05-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

I could see smoke the 9/11 attack at the Pentagon from my office. People at my workplace rotated to Iraq and Afghanistan and now they emailed that it is like Clinton all over again, the Taliban or the isnurgents can attackw ithout risk of American retaliation. The liberals are in cathoot with the terrorists liek the Socialists did in Greece (November ), Germany (Rad Army), France (Directe Action), etc.

It's true.

Babyblue · 02-05-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

How is it, exactly, that you could identify a person as a terrorist? You have to be able to identitfy a terrorist before you can take action to protect yourself from them. The last I checked, terroists don't wear badges identifying themselves as terrorists. So how could you, as an average citizen of the U.S., identify anyone as a terrorist?

Exactly.

One of the men that hi jacked the plane that hit the World Trade center. Took his flight training not far from where I live.

No one knew. No one guessed.

The only thing. (just a rumor) in my local area they said he was in class just long enough to learn how to take off. Never completed the course or learned to land the plane.

No one ever suspected a reason. They just figured he dropped out of the flying lessons.

Hear Again · 02-05-2009, 11:56 PM

duray,

"it is like clinton all over again." care to explain that, please -- especially given the fact that we are currently under a new administration that hasn't been in office for even a month?

naisho · 02-05-2009, 11:56 PM

Have you guys realized what Cheney's made you do?

Take a few steps back and look..

All this blabber

about terrorists and safety, it's a welcome and "i'm not going to disappear yet" courtesy of Cheney to make you think about his words before he goes old and senile, forgotten, mistaken. That was my purpose of posting the picture of Abe Simpson, but I think only Byrdie caught it.

He should know nothing can be done to identify a terrorist nor prevent terrorism, yet here he is talking about it still.

I see his propaganda has spread on AD also. His mission objective of his speech was accomplished.
You can't prevent it. Why bother even going as far as to think about it?

Let whomever's in charge of the homeland security team stuff handle it, they have a job to do and its not yours to criticize. They won't even bother to read public comments, because I'm sure they're way ahead of our discussion as well.

If an act of 'terrorism' occurs again, well, that's called life.

PS. Cheney doesn't care what you think, as long as its not slander about him. What he cares about is what he thinks right now.

Jiro · 02-06-2009, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Maria

I learned a lesson from 9/11 and what other terrorists did to our country. Don't be a sleeper or think that it is not goin' to happen.

Use your concept.

Oh yes no doubt that it will happen but I don't let it dictates my life. As a responsible American citizen, I pay my tax and I own a gun. As a private citizen - I trust my government to protect us and I simply live my life - sleep around, drink booze, smoke weed.

but sadly enough... most of my time is

on AD and I don't regret it

source

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Like Mr. Bush and other presidents before him, Mr. Obama typically begins his work day with a top-secret intelligence briefing on security threats against the United States. Mr. Bush received the “president’s daily brief” Monday through Saturday; Mr. Obama gets the briefing on Sunday as well.

Don't you wish you have an access to PDB (President's Daily Brief)?

btw - what exactly did you learn from 9/11 and what did you do to prepare for it? I'm not exactly sure how you can prepare against plane crashing into building.. maybe a parachute???

Jiro · 02-06-2009, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

How is it, exactly, that you could identify a person as a terrorist? You have to be able to identitfy a terrorist before you can take action to protect yourself from them. The last I checked, terroists don't wear badges identifying themselves as terrorists. So how could you, as an average citizen of the U.S., identify anyone as a terrorist?

If Maria is able to identify a terrorist before any official announcement (such as picture of terrorist on tv) - then boy.... we surely are in trouble. What Bush Administration created such as Homeland Security, etc. would be an EPIC FAIL!

shel90 · 02-06-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Oh yes no doubt that it will happen but I don't let it dictates my life. As a responsible American citizen, I pay my tax and I own a gun. As a private citizen - I trust my government to protect us and I simply live my life - sleep around, drink booze, smoke weed.

but sadly enough... most of my time is

on AD and I don't regret it

source

Don't you wish you have an access to PDB (President's Daily Brief)?

btw - what exactly did you learn from 9/11 and what did you do to prepare for it? I'm not exactly sure how you can prepare against plane crashing into building.. maybe a parachute???

I would be surprised if there were no more terrorist attacks on U.S. soil which is sad but I cant live my life in fear.

jillio · 02-06-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

Exactly.

One of the men that hi jacked the plane that hit the World Trade center. Took his flight training not far from where I live.

No one knew. No one guessed.

The only thing. (just a rumor) in my local area they said he was in class just long enough to learn how to take off. Never completed the course or learned to land the plane.

No one ever suspected a reason. They just figured he dropped out of the flying lessons.

Precisely. You can't just see a person walking down the street, sitting in a restaurant, or boarding a plane, and immediately identify them as a terrorist.

jillio · 02-06-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

If Maria is able to identify a terrorist before any official announcement (such as picture of terrorist on tv) - then boy.... we surely are in trouble. What Bush Administration created such as Homeland Security, etc. would be an EPIC FAIL!

No doubt!

darkdog · 02-06-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Now that is just absurd. The only thing that fear mongering prevents is logical, intelligent thought.

Here's the problem- they weren't making up threats that didn't exist or exaggerating threats that aren't very serious. The threat of terrorism is very real, so I don't see them as fear-mongers. That's why I put quotes around that word. An accusation of fear-mongering against people who acknowledge a threat and vow to defend us from it is itself devoid of logic and intelligence.

I agree with you about actual fear-mongering preventing logical, intelligent thought. Global warming's a great example of that. The Al Gores of the world would have us trash our economy to solve a problem whose very existence is in doubt via a solution whose efficacy is even more in doubt. Those who express any sort of skepticism are subject to abuse, ranging from name-calling (fascist, denier, psychopath, flat-earther, etc.) to losing their careers. That is an attempt at preventing logical, intelligent thought. Interestingly, those who advocate it are most likely to scream "fear-monger!" in regards to Islamic terrorism.

Now, if what I said is really that absurd, please feel free to refute it with something more than a one-adjective criticism involving no more effort than cracking open the thesaurus to the word "bad".

jillio · 02-06-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by darkdog

Here's the problem- they weren't making up threats that didn't exist or exaggerating threats that aren't very serious. The threat of terrorism is very real, so I don't see them as fear-mongers. That's why I put quotes around that word. An accusation of fear-mongering against people who acknowledge a threat and vow to defend us from it is itself devoid of logic and intelligence.

I agree with you about actual fear-mongering preventing logical, intelligent thought. Global warming's a great example of that. The Al Gores of the world would have us trash our economy to solve a problem whose very existence is in doubt via a solution whose efficacy is even more in doubt. Those who express any sort of skepticism are subject to abuse, ranging from name-calling (fascist, denier, psychopath, flat-earther, etc.) to losing their careers. That is an attempt at preventing logical, intelligent thought. Interestingly, those who advocate it are most likely to scream "fear-monger!" in regards to Islamic terrorism.

Now, if what I said is really that absurd, please feel free to refute it with something more than a one-adjective criticism involving no more effort than cracking open the thesaurus to the word "bad".

I don't need to use a thesaurus. My vocabularly is sufficiently large already, thank you. And I have already refuted your statement, and you, in fact have agreed with my refutation.

Jiro · 02-07-2009, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by darkdog

Here's the problem- they weren't making up threats that didn't exist or exaggerating threats that aren't very serious. The threat of terrorism is very real, so I don't see them as fear-mongers. That's why I put quotes around that word. An accusation of fear-mongering against people who acknowledge a threat and vow to defend us from it is itself devoid of logic and intelligence.

I agree with you about actual fear-mongering preventing logical, intelligent thought. Global warming's a great example of that. The Al Gores of the world would have us trash our economy to solve a problem whose very existence is in doubt via a solution whose efficacy is even more in doubt. Those who express any sort of skepticism are subject to abuse, ranging from name-calling (fascist, denier, psychopath, flat-earther, etc.) to losing their careers. That is an attempt at preventing logical, intelligent thought. Interestingly, those who advocate it are most likely to scream "fear-monger!" in regards to Islamic terrorism.

Now, if what I said is really that absurd, please feel free to refute it with something more than a one-adjective criticism involving no more effort than cracking open the thesaurus to the word "bad".

a very very very poor example of comparison of terrorism and global warming in terms of fear-mongering. Global Warming is NOT a good example of fear-mongering. The only person who would say such thing is the one who does not believe in global warming. global warming is something we can try to fix. BTW - Al Gores of the world would have us trash our economy??? I'm sorry but the last time I remember was that Al Gore was part of administration that resulted in surplus budget and Internet revolution.

However - Terrorism... that is PRECISELY why we pay our taxes and voted the officials so that they can do their jobs to prevent it since we cannot do anything about it. Why constantly remind us of terrorism? Since we cannot do anything about terrorism - it makes us feel fearful and powerless. If they had to resort to fear-mongering tactics on something that we cannot do anything about it, it's because they want you to keep voting for incompetent people that make their employers/shareholders rich. very rich. Ever heard of.... you know.... war profiteering?

Hear Again · 02-07-2009, 09:31 AM

...not to mention the fact that al gore won the nobel peace prize in 2007 for his advocacy efforts concerning global warming.

shel90 · 02-07-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Precisely. You can't just see a person walking down the street, sitting in a restaurant, or boarding a plane, and immediately identify them as a terrorist.

If we were able to, then every terrorist would be in prison or hung by now.

jillio · 02-07-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

If we were able to, then every terrorist would be in prison or hung by now.

Exactly.

Reba · 02-07-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

...not to mention the fact that al gore won the nobel peace prize in 2007 for his advocacy efforts concerning global warming.

So?

jillio · 02-07-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

So?

So...they don't give out Nobel prizes for fear mongering. Too bad for Cheney.

Reba · 02-07-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

So...they don't give out Nobel prizes for fear mongering. Too bad for Cheney.

The Nobel Prizes have lost much of their prestige in recent years. It's a shame.

jillio · 02-07-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

The Nobel Prizes have lost much of their prestige in recent years. It's a shame.

They still don't give one out for fear mongering.

02-05-2009, 11:56 PM	#104 (permalink)
Hear Again Each day is a gift. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,073 Blog Entries: 6	duray, "it is like clinton all over again." care to explain that, please -- especially given the fact that we are currently under a new administration that hasn't been in office for even a month? __________________ Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE (Implanted: 12/22/04 \| Activated: 1/18/05) Right ear - Nucleus Freedom (Implanted: 2/1/06 \| Activated: 3/1/06) Deafblind/Postlingual

02-05-2009, 11:56 PM	#105 (permalink)
naisho Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,007	Have you guys realized what Cheney's made you do? Take a few steps back and look.. All this blabber about terrorists and safety, it's a welcome and "i'm not going to disappear yet" courtesy of Cheney to make you think about his words before he goes old and senile, forgotten, mistaken. That was my purpose of posting the picture of Abe Simpson, but I think only Byrdie caught it. He should know nothing can be done to identify a terrorist nor prevent terrorism, yet here he is talking about it still. I see his propaganda has spread on AD also. His mission objective of his speech was accomplished. You can't prevent it. Why bother even going as far as to think about it? Let whomever's in charge of the homeland security team stuff handle it, they have a job to do and its not yours to criticize. They won't even bother to read public comments, because I'm sure they're way ahead of our discussion as well. If an act of 'terrorism' occurs again, well, that's called life. PS. Cheney doesn't care what you think, as long as its not slander about him. What he cares about is what he thinks right now. __________________

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Hear Again Each day is a gift. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 20,073 Blog Entries: 6	...not to mention the fact that al gore won the nobel peace prize in 2007 for his advocacy efforts concerning global warming. __________________ Left ear - Nucleus 24 Contour Advance with Freedom BTE (Implanted: 12/22/04 \| Activated: 1/18/05) Right ear - Nucleus Freedom (Implanted: 2/1/06 \| Activated: 3/1/06) Deafblind/Postlingual

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02-05-2009, 10:01 PM	#92 (permalink)
DURAY Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 398	I could see smoke the 9/11 attack at the Pentagon from my office. People at my workplace rotated to Iraq and Afghanistan and now they emailed that it is like Clinton all over again, the Taliban or the isnurgents can attackw ithout risk of American retaliation. The liberals are in cathoot with the terrorists liek the Socialists did in Greece (November ), Germany (Rad Army), France (Directe Action), etc.

02-05-2009, 10:13 PM	#95 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,923	Sounds like Cheney's trigger finger is itching again. He is dying to shoot someone in the face again. This "warning" from him sounds like a threat. Unpleasant chap.