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Old 06-22-2005, 09:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Will you still buy French goods such as perfume, wines etc?
Will you go there for a holiday one day?
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi AD members,

France is not far from my area. We drove there often for the weekends and love it.

French likes to sit in the cafe to have a good cup of coffee and chat with people. Cheeses is their number one.

Did you try French onion soup? Yummmmmiiii
Did you try French cheeses? Yummmmiiii

Anyway, I would like to share a few recommendations here with you. Paris is a truly beautiful city. I consider Paris is the most charming and romantic city for honeymooner in the Europe. Paris is an ideal city for couple go there for the weekends to celebrate their wedding anniversaries. We will go there to celebrate our 25th Wedding Anniversary and will book the same hotel where we spent our first honeymoon in 1985.

There are sooo many wonderful bistros and brasseries, good restaurants. You can wander around many exciting like the Eiffel Tower, Notre Dame, Champs Elysee, Louvre Gallery (Mona Lisa), the Tuilleries gardens, etc. The place de la concorde where many people lost their heads to the guillotine. Try the big department stores like Galleries Lafayette or designer clothes head for Rue Fauborg if you like go to shopping. There’re good choice for more independent shopping is in Le marais region. A good area for nightlife is in Le Bastille-full of quirky bars and clubs.

I consider Montmarte as a perfect place to visit which overlooks the whole of Paris. The view there is an amazing at the top and there are dozens of restaurants to collapse in once you get there. There’re many artist community in Montmartre, you can have your portait painted by one of the many street artist for reasonable price.

I would be happy to give you link over Paris if you are interesting.
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Will you still buy French goods such as perfume, wines etc?
Of course, what's wrong with that?

The French perfume, wines, foods etc. are everywhere in German stores here in Germany. We loves it.
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My favorite perfume made by france (paris) Lovely...

Pyhton, Posion, Estte lander, and much more... Lovely smelly strong... stay long time ain't going fade away within 1 hr..
kept perfume laid on my body odors still there!!! *whew* Doesn't like cheap perfume any kinds made by other countries...

I have not visit in France... One day, I would love to go.. when My hubby and I will become early retires 45's.. would be great have together travelling around the countries..
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 06-22-2005, 10:49 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Of course, what's wrong with that?

The French perfume, wines, foods etc. are everywhere in German stores here in Germany. We loves it.

Yes, I know, me too.

Most american won't buy anything from France because of this quote below?
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We Support the boycott of ALL French products to put France in recession! they deserve it!
BullymOm, yeah, I love french perfumes - Yves Saint Laurent and Christian Dior etc. These are the top ranges.
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Although I think that site is a bit........excessive and rediculous in many of its claims, I do hate France and refuse to support their economy in any way. In the past few years a general boycott of French goods by many Americans has had a fairly significant impact on their economy, IIRC, to the point that many French industries complained to Chirac's government that he needed to stop pissing of the Americans.

But yes, I boycott all things French, and will likely do so for many years to come.
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yes, I know, me too.

Most american won't buy anything from France because of this quote below?
Yeah, I know. I saw it myself. *sigh*
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My favorite perfume made by france (paris) Lovely...

Pyhton, Posion, Estte lander, and much more... Lovely smelly strong... stay long time ain't going fade away within 1 hr..
kept perfume laid on my body odors still there!!! *whew* Doesn't like cheap perfume any kinds made by other countries...

I have not visit in France... One day, I would love to go.. when My hubby and I will become early retires 45's.. would be great have together travelling around the countries..
Do you mean Estee Lauders perfume? Yes itīs also my favorite, too. Yes, itīs true that French perfume stay smell longer.

It would be great that you both come to visit us because France is not long way from our area.
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Although I think that site is a bit........excessive and rediculous in many of its claims, I do hate France and refuse to support their economy in any way. In the past few years a general boycott of French goods by many Americans has had a fairly significant impact on their economy, IIRC, to the point that many French industries complained to Chirac's government that he needed to stop pissing of the Americans.

But yes, I boycott all things French, and will likely do so for many years to come.
Why you hate France which you didnt know their culture well?

Each culture/country have different mentality.

French may be friendly toward you only if you treat them in manner way.
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ive been to France twice and love the country - love their foods, arts, history,literature, poetry,pastries, architecture, wines, etc. I am what you could call a Francophile.

But I dont like the French. Very rude people. I had to pretend that I was from Canada so that I would get better services at resturants, etc.

The French has always been known to be arrogant and full of pride. Nothing wrong with that but they literally look down on us, Americans.

I continue to buy French products only because they make the finest quality such as perfumes, makeup, cheese and wines.

You cant deny that France has quality!
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Why you hate France which you didnt know their culture well?

Each culture/country have different mentality.
True, however, as a student of history and someone who remains fairly up-to-date and well informed on news and politics, I have come to despise the French mentality for its ignorant arrogance, and its refusal to seen historical patterns.

Now, I don't want this to turn into a huge political debate or flame war, so I'd prefer to keep it at that.
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No problem, Meg. I respect your opinion. I would like to share the debate anyone with agree to disagree in respectful way.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Like what I said in my previous post that each culture/country have different mentality and French may be friendly toward you only if you treat them in manner way. Yes, I know that French donīt smile much and not friendly with strangers. They always say please and thank you in manner way. You will be surprise how nice the French are.


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As an American I had heard comments from one end to the other about how I would be treated by the French. My trip took place right after the US went to war in Iraq and everyone wanted to give me advice about going or not going. A good friend told me to remember that I was visiting another country and should not forget that their treatment of me would depend on how I acted and treated them. He said the term "Ugly American" came from Americans who travel with an attitude that the US is better than any other place. He advised me to always say hello/good-bye and thank you. I have always been a courteous traveler but I took his advice to heart and never failed to say Bonjour and Merci. My traveling companion and I were treated wonderfully and I would like to pass on my friend's advice to all that travel to France or any country for that matter.
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Do not believe in the oft repeated myth about rude French people!! I had quite a few pleasant and friendly experiences in france..and no rudeness whatsoever (including from the much maligned french waiters). I speak a little bit of french and that helped..but even if your french is confined to Bonjour and Au revoir..you could get by very easily as most parisians speak english. Obviously..it's better if atleast the initial greetings are in French
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Don't believe what they say that the French are rude. Just be accommodating. The French are very proud of their language and it is only respectful to at least attempt to speak it at the beginning of a conversation. Bonjour! Comment ca va? Parlez lentement s'il vous plait. Je ne parle pas bien le francais
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For all of the negative stereotypes that I had heard about the French being rude, I found them to be extremely friendly, very nice people. I didn't encounter any of the rude treatment I have heard so much about, in fact, it was just the opposite. I think if you will just put forth a small amount of effort to respect their culture and their language you will have no problems at all.
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French people are no worse than other people. But of course, if you expect to meet rude people, and interpret things negatively then you will have your expectations verified. I read one revealing review here on VT. A british lady complained about a restaurant. The waiter had insulted her and her husband by telling his collegue that they were "amateurs de vin" - which the lady interpreted as "wine amatuers" and obviously not knowing much about wine. What he really meant was "wine lovers" - the word Amateur means Lover. This mistake made the couple upset and they showed it - and they got the lousy service that they had expected (and, I dare say, deserved). Expect the best - and you get it.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Paris isn't anything at all... I don't see why they called it a romantic city,
what is so romantic about it?

I have been to Paris few years ago. Nothing but old buildings, Mona Lisa art picture, food, and some weird people there. Might as well go to New York City.
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Old 06-22-2005, 01:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Paris isn't anything at all... I don't see why they called it a romantic city,
what is so romantic about it?

I have been to Paris few years ago. Nothing but old buildings, Mona Lisa art picture, food, and some weird people there. Might as well go to New York City.
Eh, to each his own. I have to admit I wouldn't want to visit Paris, either, but I don't knock the country.

It's just not my thing. I'm really not that fond of Europe, but hey, I'm not gonna knock it, either.

Some people just like different parts of the world better than others. No big deal.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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France... je l'adore! I love France. I love the attitude of the French and German people, because they are honest and say whatever they think. Some Americans think it is plain rudeness, but I don't see it that way. My favourite thing about France is the wines and the cheeses, and cafe-lounging without rude responses from waiters as you would experience in the States. One can stay in a restaurant for hours and hours in France, but not in America, where the waiters will become rude to you and want you to go already. That's why I prefer slow-food restaurants, where we can take our time eating and talking.

I think it is ridiculous to boycott French products. The French make many wonderful things, and to deny yourself of them is a sad thing. What we really should do is ask our American companies to bring all the oversea outsourcing jobs back to the States and make quality products.
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Yes K75, Iīm agree with you totally. *sigh*

I dont know whatīs culture in America alike because I never been try America yet. Yes, I notice Americanīs manner behavior because I work for US Army caserne. I meant not all but most.

Yes, I am person who say open and direct what I think. Sometimes I notice my honest opinion lead online people from forums wrong head and also offensive. *sigh*
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Oh yes, I forget to add one more.

Danny had an accident there at 2 years ago. Parisan ccomplanied me and Danny to French clinic because she's only one who can speak German and translated for us. She stayed with us at 4 hours waiting room in French clinic. Danny & I learned some of French languages from her. X-Ray shows that Danny's arm is not fracture. The friendly Parisan doctor bandage his arm and speak English to Danny. I never forget how lovely and helpful people they are. Danny wrote a letter thank Parisan for her support.
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Did you know the French made and sold weapons to Saddam?.
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I wouldn't mind visiting France for the culture and experience. I have relatives there, too. I guess some of you french haters will boycott me now, cos I'm sort of a french DNA product myself?

USA has its pros and cons, too.. as well as France does, and every other countries.
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Did you know the French made and sold weapons to Saddam?.
Tamara, you'd have to be specific about which french group did this. To generalize the french as a whole body sharing the same ideas and beliefs would be misleading, IMO. No one agrees with each other even if they live in the same country.. USA should be proof of that
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France... je l'adore! I love France. I love the attitude of the French and German people, because they are honest and say whatever they think. Some Americans think it is plain rudeness, but I don't see it that way.
I don't know if all french people are that cool as the ones you've met - my friend visited france, and said the ones she encountered were snooty and thought she was fat even though she weighted only 125lbs and was really slim. She also has a great sense of fashion...
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Did you know the French made and sold weapons to Saddam?.
Did you know that in the 1970s and 1980s, the United States supported Saddam and his rise in Iraq with the Baathi Party, as well as giving all kinds of weapons to Iraqi people to fight the war against Iran? Also, it had something to do with the Afghanistan war with Russians.
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Did you know the French made and sold weapons to Saddam?.
All countries make business with other countries.
Iraq can order a poisonous substance to produce the plant parts insecticides or artificial fertilizers at different companies in Germany, America or other countries. How do they know Iranian use parts to produce chemistry weapons?
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I know that every cultures have different manner behaviors. I'm getting use it because I travel alot to overseas and learn their different cultures. All what I do is I search to find out about other countries's custom before I travel to because I like to learn to respect their cultures that I should not get wrong head about their behaviour way. I have no problem with their different cultures because I accept what they are. It would be bad if anyone show no respect on their cultures. Remember that everyone has different custom/traditional in their countries.

If I want to try America then I need to find out about their culture before I don't get the wrong head about them.

See the example.
http://www.drdaveanddee.com/america.html

See that European and America have different manner ways. I can't see the reason why anyone are offence over their behavior because they are different people.
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US, under Bush Sr's presidency, did sell weapons to Al Queda and as well trained them to fight for their indepedence. So what can you say abt US now??
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I like Paris,France its really beautiful and romantic many people went there for vacation and honeymoon also! and also Princess Diana been there also before she died.

but im wishes Princess Diana was alives! when Princess Diana was in accident at Paris in 1997 by Assassination paparazzi who chase the Princess to getting images of Diana before she crash in tunnell im kinda afraid for Diana getting hurt! but i wanted see Diana's crash sites i dont like paparazzi who been hounded over the Princess Diana i really hated it! but i never met her before

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WOO HOO england gets the 2012 games! NOT FRANCE!!

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WOO HOO!!!! THANK YOU JESUS!!! For making france A BUNCH OF FUCKING LOSERS!!! Maybe youll support the USA next time charac!!because BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING TO FRANCE! Maybe youll stop and think about who rescued your ass from adolph hitlers army in 1944?
Mr. RavenSteven1961,

May I remind you that France already joined our first American forces against England in 1770s?

France people,

Thanks so much for supporting our old folks when we needed your great assistance. We also thank Napoleon Bonaparte for doing a great business when our grandfolks purchased your Louisiana property.

Please ignore Mr. RavenSteven1961's remark. He does not mean directly to insult France people since he never actually thought of our America history. Please accept our serious apology.

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WOO HOO england gets the 2012 games! NOT FRANCE!!



Mr. RavenSteven1961,

May I remind you that France already joined our first American forces against England in 1770s?

France people,

Thanks so much for supporting our old folks when we needed your great assistance. We also thank Napoleon Bonaparte for doing a great business when our grandfolks purchased your Louisiana property.

Please ignore Mr. RavenSteven1961's remark. He does not mean directly to insult France people since he never actually thought of our America history. Please accept our serious apology.

Be Peace in God's World.

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I really donīt understand why Americans insult French. I watched movie called "Patriot" on TV last Sunday. Itīs really very good movie... I would recommend you to watch it.
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Yes, France helped America against England in 1770. Without Franceīs help, America would never be here. right?
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