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Death Penalty
i realize i may be opening the door to some pretty heated arguments/debates on this and i am welcoming this as well -- but please folks, lets try and not be disrespectful on this thread and be able to debate for/against in a healthy way like Liza would say, "agree to disagree" without letting it go out of control
i am in support of the death penalty -- altho i feel that the USA gives a TOO easy death to the criminals by injection -- particularly those who are child rapists/murderers, mass murderers, serial killers and other general homicidical freaks -- i dont believe anything such as "cruel and inhumane" if a criminal has been proven to be the one who did the crime (DNA testing, fingerprints/footprints and etc etc) case in point as an example altho it has occurred overseas: a thread that Kootchie started: Children buried alive about the children buried alive -- the guy who is now on trial along with his other co-defendants should be given the exact same death penalty -- be starved to death along with being raped repeatedly, the exact same method they gave their victims as what they have done to their victims were truly inhumane so thus the criminals should get the same treatment -- inhumane!
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Nah, they should be put to death the same way they committed the murders! If a guy raped someone to death... have a bunch of gay musclemen rape that guy to death! If a guy shot someone, they should shoot him until he dies. The punishment should fit the crime!
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I don't believe in Death Penalty ....
But, If that what Justice is served for those who need to be put in Dealth Penalty..then its fine with me.... I guess some people deserved to be put to death for a reason...
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I believe in death penality too but for the people who are mentally retarded or whatever like, proably should be sent to mental homes instead and stay there until they die.
Remember afew years ago the mother of all 5 (or more?) drowned her kids in a bathtub...yes all 5 kids in one tub! and the oldest was the hardest to kill (7 yrs old) because he tried to escape from the physco but she kept pulling him and kicking him until he gets down and put him into the tub also...she was definetly mentally retarded because she feels trapped and was trying to "protect" her children from evil or something...WHAT's evil?? the kids were just in the kitchen eating breakfast and all of a sudden she lose her mind and gone bonkers, killing and suffing all 5 in the tub until she had enough and then when she went back to "normal" she panicked and called 911 and so she got herself BUSTED. Months later, they were thinking about putting her to the death row (I didn't think they would put women in death rows too until then) But according to her husband and lawyer, they said it'll only make things alot worse when putting a mentally ill patient into the death penality because she didn't even remember what she've done and stuff...so they are letting her go and stay in prison for another 20 or 30 years until she has all the help she needs. For other people who don't give a crap about others ppl's lives, who kill and rape their children, break in the house and kill someone they dont even know...etc just the ones who are crazy but not mentally ill...and the ones who are just cold hearted and evil should be put to death, as well. |
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I used be 100% suppport for Death Penalty. Now, I am not 100% after I see Tim McVeigh enjoyed rest in peace with limited confession. Wish he didn't die from death penalty quickly. Should giving him life sentence so we can wait till his ultimate confession for why did he murdered 168 people and cause people get more injuried. Felt that death sentence is too easily for Tim McVeigh. Last edited by Lasza; 03-04-2004 at 01:04 PM. |
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As for Timothy McVeigh, he did confess some, but not fully..he blamed the ATF agents for that incident at Waco, Texas..that is one of the reasons he blew up Murrah building in Okla City..and he was a militant too..he is so against the United States government..yeah, he had easy death too, not fair to 168 people he killed..at least hes gone so he wont kill more people! |
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I disagree with Death Pently which finds some of them who is deep innocent and gov't policy (some of places) neglection complety and refused open the case nad to find why that guy kept saying not gulity.. Request ask for DNA.. They were neglected complety again... Put that guy into Death injection.. Turns out found a right guy who did murdred mass lot of ladies death.. What about innocent guy.. you cannot bring that guy back alive.. Too late, He is DEAD. Made me digustion every minutes.. I've seen reading the article newspaper and much more information through internet..
What the problem captional punishment.. I've seen where missing out some of what... They putting them quarrel settlement as such paying sum.. No wonder avoid print media.. How's so cruel interesting about this methods of usa system.. Canada aren't doing like this.. always until find DNA 100% One of guy who is totally innocent and kept file appeal over over.. Their parent are worked hard and sold their property and etc etc... to pay Best lawyer and found there was no such thing edvicence why ingore DNA??? Start over again the open case to investingtion carefully and to find match to make sure correct guy.. Turn out wrong guy is totally innocent.. Gov't system of somewhat.. got big embrassement and apolgyized (sp) to their parent and pay lot of money their repluation damages cost. Lucky didn't put him sentence permantly until death. Ridcouisly.. Why not same thing USA system like canada's system.. but I felt sorry for USA system really provked (sp). If that correct guy and to make sure match 100% of course belong behind the bars.. but Death Penatly.. Does they want save their money expense on prision beds ??? *sigh* I'm sorry to being felt turn me into heated emotions speaking.. All I want to point view about this issues.. I hope you understand how much i felt opition about this issues Death Plenty.. You totally supported 100% for Death Penatly.. what if your son or daughter really innocent and put your son or daughter into death plenty.. then *snap finger* passed away.. Turn out found wrong person about your son or daughter ??? How can you deal with ordeal emotions.. Do you willing lawsuit or what? Ridcouisly that total cost expense taxpayers waste!! Think about it.. please. Sorry I'm too canadian.. but american.. I'm not here for offense you.. Just open communcation as your opitions debate with me.. Is that great fine with me.. Thanks. *peace*
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"DNA" if they are not doing for DNA... therefore no excuse.. put them death row turns it out found innocent person.. as you put hiim/her dead.. *oppise*.. You could say sorry ?? I do not think so! witness is part of their own game.. yes that person .. kept accusing wrong guy or lady.. real life is innocent.. how can you deal with ? Okay.. My turn.. Yes, That guy Illustrator.. did murder the lady down the alley.. Police say.. are you sure ? I say.. Yes.. that him.. court.. lawyer asking me.. are you sure that person.. I say.. Yes totally that him.. what if you say not gulity.. all you want proven innocent.. I kept contuines accusing you did murder.. Think twice how can see you during dark night????? Until you have to rights speak it out Want to proof by DNA.. that would be benefits doubt.. Takes delay the court date next.. until find 100% evidence extact right person or wrong person whatever.. Do you care discuss ?
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Why don't we go back to the Code of Hammurabi? If you steal, your hands shall be cut off. Etc? |
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im all for the death penalty..but...people in prison and on death row..have it easy....i think their deaths should be harsher...not simple lethal injections etc...if they blow up a building.they should have a stick of dynomite shoved up their asses and someone light the fuse..just so they can feel it... if someone was shot....shoot them......someone was chopped into pieces..chop them up...they say its expensive to execute someone.hell.....ill dig the hole..ill provide the ammo...just do it...make room for the other prisoners......get rid of all death row people.
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depressive illness..in other words, she was very mentally ill. If you get "Readers Digest" there is a story in there about Andrea Yates..the title of the story is "Horror in Houston"..it was very interesting story.. |
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I believe in Death penalty Only If there is Enough Evidence to proof that he or she is guilty for the crime committed. Therefore, there are some people are put on death row that are innocence with no evidences proof to committed the crime.
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I agree with you ^Angel^ and Bullymom...whether or not the case presents itself 100% proof of their being guilty...I simply don't feel it's our duty to act out judgementally...there's a much HIGHER Being that will serve justice which will bring about their fates in the next life...I can agree that most of these 'lifers/death row inmates' may be getting off easy getting free food, entertainment, etc...THEN, it would behoove all of us that they overhaul the system for these hardliners with hard labor, etc...to be enacted and put into force. Yet, to judge them in the courts to find whether they are guilty or innocent is much different than implying and having justice served with their 'lives' for whatever crime was committed.
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well I support death penalty so we don't have to deal with crazy people who can get away with anything if they aren't being put on death sentence then they will make excuses not to stay in jail but really depends on situation but if a person is not that violent can torture long life sentence to death in prison.
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exactly my sentiments PiercedPixie!!!!!!! they do indeed have it WAYYY too easy i agree Lasza -- ur post abt McVeigh -- i agree with u that he had such an easy death by injection and the US's philosophy that "cruel and inhumane punishment" should not be legal which i think is bullshit! it gets the criminal off to a "good death" by injection thats peaceful qq thats total bullshit but ur comment of Quote:
i do feel that the punishment should fit the crime that the person(s) has committed so therefore i do think that they should suffer the SAME way their victims had suffered
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*gulps* Might as well. *onto soapbox*
I'm actually against the death penalty. I also -- you could say -- base my perspective on both writing to 5 death row inmates AND living in the actual town where the federal death row is (yes, the place where the circus that was the McVeigh execution was) and also having personally met victim family members who are also against the death penalty (one of them being a kind gentleman who lost his daughter in the OK City bombing)...and actually visiting Ground Zero 1 month before and 3 months after 9/11. My main stance as to support of LWOP (life without parole)? The simple fact that I feel that LWOP is the victim's way of saying "Ha! I'm a better person than you are." OK. Off the soapbox. I do also apologize to those who are for the death penalty for offending them, as I know your sentiment. |
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