![]() |
|
|
||||||||
|
|
#1 (permalink) |
|
Premium Member
![]() Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 7,277
|
I am against oralism because....
BarbDiGi's blogspot
Summary: Someone asked me if I were against oralists when I know s/he must have meant oralism because to be against oralists just because they can speak is outrageous! So my response to this modified question is, yes, I am against oralism but not spoken English. Let me share you that the term oralism to me is a stigma. It is associated with “force” for some even “abuse” (i.e. hands whacked with rulers, although physical abuse is prohibited but still, this term brings back these memories that many are scarred with the term oralism. Oralism is way different than spoken English. Oralism tends to be the only approach and it bans from ASL. Spoken English is not against for one to know both languages since birth. It has no biased meaning – it is just a language. Spoken English doesn’t ban a Deaf child from using ASL nor force those who cannot hear enough to use it. Some people who think the world of oralism are ignorant. Using the word, oralism, still did not change to a positive concept just we would never change the concept of slavery. Now I am not comparing slavery to oralism but in that sense, the idea of slavery is negative just like oralism is for some, if not, many. Would we want to still practice slavery? No! Unfortunately, it is still happening in some parts of the world. Slavery will always be negative just like oralism is but in a different sense of course. There were horror stories associated to oralism that scarred them for life. Although it is history but today the practice, the principle and the philosophy still discriminate against ASL. The Deaf children are suppressed from using ASL. The term should be changed to oracy since it involves the use of switching to both languages where they have the options to use, spoken or signed, where there is more flexibility and compatibility. (In my video clip, you will see my description on how Flemish Deaf view oralism definition vs. Deaf culture definition.) That's why I don't accept and approve the concept of oralism because of the attitude. The concept is negative so that is something to think about how should we view oralism. From my experience, I was able to grow up using spoken English and ASL. Did I ever think that I think of myself as a oralist? No. I am just a spoken English user so it is completely different than being oralist because one doesn't know ASL. I use spoken English, yes. I am ASL user, yes! Oralists don't use ASL. It is just a different view about the way I grow up as I never thought one has to separate those who speak from using ASL. They were placed in an environment using an only-oral-method approach and it was not necessary! ( ASL users still can use spoken English and to not to know ASL growing up because it will hinder language development is still unproven stated by research documents. It has been proven that bilingual approach will benefit the Deaf child to grasp the language, ASL, that is most accessible and natural to them, making the bridge to learn spoken English more effectively if the child desires to do so and benefits the time spent for learning speech).
__________________
![]() ![]()
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members. Register your free account today and become a member on AllDeaf.com |
|
|
|
#3 (permalink) |
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 91
|
do they still practice oralism? I know they did when I was growing up, my mom decided that I should learn to speak because she didn't want to send me away to a deaf school..She wanted me to be with her. The audiologist told her that since I am only severe HOH, and can use hearing aids.. I would be better off being oralism.
But when I was in jr. high school.. I had an option to go to a public school nearby that specialize deaf , but mom said no to that. I thought professionals would know better now after they are done experimenting. It amazes me that my son is hearing, but his school is more concerned about his social life than his reading and speaking skills, and want him to socialize with other kids more. But if they still do oralism, I guess they don't care about deaf's social life. |
|
|
|
|
|
#4 (permalink) |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,511
|
I grew up learning to talk so that pretty much oralism but I am greatful I can talk so I can commicate since it nothing to be a ashame of learning to talk. I know everybody feel differently how they feel about oralism.
__________________
GarnetTigerMom ![]() "The rain may be falling hard outside, But your smile makes it all alright. I'm so glad that you're my friend. I know our friendship will never end." -- Robert Alan |
|
|
|
|
|
#5 (permalink) | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 91
|
Quote:
all I wanted is the full toolbox. I am glad I can speak too... but I can't always depend on it. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6 (permalink) |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,511
|
Yeah true, But i just glad I can denpend it my speaking since I don't have a problem. I had a very good speech teacher so I started out very young.
__________________
GarnetTigerMom ![]() "The rain may be falling hard outside, But your smile makes it all alright. I'm so glad that you're my friend. I know our friendship will never end." -- Robert Alan |
|
|
|
|
|
#7 (permalink) | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,666
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#8 (permalink) |
|
Wireless Switch Engineer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 466
|
I have nothing against oralism as long it is not "mandatory" by school - I prefer both oralism and ASL together to maximum the communication skills. I had speech teacher when I was very young until high school. I believe that having oral skill has it own benefits in hearing environment. Again, it should be up to child's parent to make that decision, not school's. Oralism skills served me very well in my social and professional life. I still signs with my other deaf friends but I would admit that my signing is somewhat rusty since I dont use it that often in my adult life.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 (permalink) | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,666
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#11 (permalink) | |
|
Wireless Switch Engineer
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Posts: 466
|
Ah ok. Thanks for correcting me.
In that case, I am against oralism.Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#18 (permalink) | |
|
Sun Whorshipper
![]() Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: A Desert Rat that has found herself in Maryland
Posts: 12,321
Blog Entries: 1
|
Quote:
Count me in!!!
__________________
~Shel~
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#21 (permalink) |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 103
|
Oralism is alive and well! Especially since CI's are starting to become common. A very recent illustration happened a few months ago at my daughter's school. Our bi-bi program needs a building. We have been leasing a condemed school building for the last several years but it is going to be torn down this summer. The Utah School for the Deaf did not give the money to our program but a new Auditory Verbal (sign prohibitted) School go the funding. Our school has been around and growing for the last 10 years, this school was created in August. It happened only because it is an Oral only school and ours is an ASL school.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#22 (permalink) | |
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,666
|
Quote:
![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#23 (permalink) | |
|
Sun Whorshipper
![]() Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: A Desert Rat that has found herself in Maryland
Posts: 12,321
Blog Entries: 1
|
Quote:
oralism only ![]() ![]() ![]()
__________________
~Shel~
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#24 (permalink) |
|
Burn fat off your soul
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: North Island in the South
Posts: 593
|
interesting thread.......
I can see theres a danger of letting oralism continue to exist if we allow oral skills still be taught...... hearing knobheads in control of education and or in position to advise parents are cunning...dont underestimate that Hard line must be HARDLINE period... |
|
|
|
|
|
#25 (permalink) |
|
Labra lege!
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,153
|
We should keep ASL in schools. Education is easily the most important than the ability to speak. Don't mess with the education!
__________________
It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem. - Gilbert Chesterton |
|
|
|