AllDeaf.com
Perks - Advertise - Spy - Who Quoted Me  
Go Back   AllDeaf.com > Deaf Community > General Chat
LIKE AllDeaf on Facebook FOLLOW AllDeaf on Twitter
Advertisement
Advertisement
Closed Thread
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:10 PM   #1
CSign
Registered User
 
CSign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Best Coast, USA
Posts: 3,282
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It must get tiring!

For those who seem to always be fighting with everyone?

For those that argue; for the sake of arguing, when they are arguing about something they both agree on.

For those that label people, just because they feel like it with nothing to back it up.

For those that create a divide in a community and drives people away, when we should be bringing people together.

It must be tiring.

Can we all please just behave like civilized adults? Have conversations where we don't always agree, but lay out our opinions in a clear and pragmatic way without insulting and putting others down?

We won't all agree on everything all the time, but we can allow those times to be an opportunity to have thought provoking and respectful discussions. Who knows... If some of us open our mind we just might gain insight into something we had never considered.

CSign is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:14 PM   #2
Jiro
If You Know What I Mean
 
Jiro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Soprano State
Posts: 67,687
Likes: 14
Liked 114 Times in 80 Posts
but you are always free to leave. no need to engage in argument with anybody. you have a choice. a thread like this can make you look like a drama queen, ya know....
__________________
- Don't forget to buy Jiro's Special Edition Sunglasses for $19.95
Jiro is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:20 PM   #3
CSign
Registered User
 
CSign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Best Coast, USA
Posts: 3,282
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro View Post
but you are always free to leave. no need to engage in argument with anybody. you have a choice. a thread like this can make you look like a drama queen, ya know....
I'm not a drama queen, but if I look like it so be it.

The most important part of this post was really in the last 2 paragraphs. I'd like for us all to engage in conversation in a productive way. There is nothing wrong with not agreeing on something. It's how we deal with those agreements that effects the rest of the threads. Respect can allow for more clear lines of communication.
CSign is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:22 PM   #4
jillio
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 60,294
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
There you go! I suggested you start a thread that could be all about you so you could stop derailing the information threads. Here it is!
jillio is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:24 PM   #5
Jiro
If You Know What I Mean
 
Jiro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Soprano State
Posts: 67,687
Likes: 14
Liked 114 Times in 80 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
I'm not a drama queen, but if I look like it so be it.

The most important part of this post was really in the last 2 paragraphs. I'd like for us all to engage in conversation in a productive way. There is nothing wrong with not agreeing on something. It's how we deal with those agreements that effects the rest of the threads. Respect can allow for more clear lines of communication.
if you had to reply back to defend your post, then you are basically not agreeing to disagree.

or you can simply leave and take it to PM land.
__________________
- Don't forget to buy Jiro's Special Edition Sunglasses for $19.95
Jiro is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:26 PM   #6
CSign
Registered User
 
CSign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Best Coast, USA
Posts: 3,282
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro View Post
if you had to reply back to defend your post, then you are basically not agreeing to disagree.

or you can simply leave and take it to PM land.
I wasn't replying back "to defend" my post. I was trying to make a point that the real purpose behind this thread lies within the last two paragraphs. I would like to see a shift in the dynamics here. Maybe a little less direct hostility, and a little more respect and understanding of differences.
CSign is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:30 PM   #7
Jiro
If You Know What I Mean
 
Jiro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Soprano State
Posts: 67,687
Likes: 14
Liked 114 Times in 80 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
I wasn't replying back "to defend" my post. I was trying to make a point that the real purpose behind this thread lies within the last two paragraphs. I would like to see a shift in the dynamics here. Maybe a little less direct hostility, and a little more respect and understanding of differences.
we've had several threads about this in the past. I get what you're saying but it's very simple, really.... kitchen too hot? feel free to leave. they don't need to stay in kitchen and make a fuss.

All I can say is... either grow a thick skin or take it to PM land. and report the post if it's offensive to you.
__________________
- Don't forget to buy Jiro's Special Edition Sunglasses for $19.95
Jiro is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:35 PM   #8
jillio
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 60,294
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
When did hearing people start to decide what kind of a forum AllDeaf was supposed to be? That is something best left to the Deaf/deaf around here.
Isn't this just another case of a hearing person dictating what is proper in a Deaf environment based on their own needs? Can anyone say "Audism"?
jillio is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:37 PM   #9
CSign
Registered User
 
CSign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Best Coast, USA
Posts: 3,282
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jillio View Post
When did hearing people start to decide what kind of a forum AllDeaf was supposed to be? That is something best left to the Deaf/deaf around here.
Isn't this just another case of a hearing person dictating what is proper in a Deaf environment based on their own needs? Can anyone say "Audism"?
We all know you can.
CSign is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:49 PM   #10
jillio
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 60,294
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts


How ironic that someone starts a thread about bickering, and then does everything in their power to keep the bickering going!
jillio is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 05:52 PM   #11
deafskeptic
Premium Member
 
deafskeptic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 14,527
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I think I'm out of here.
__________________
Left ear implanted with Med-El on April 24 2007.
Activated on May 9th.
Upgraded to Opus 2 9/10/2010

Think Pink.
FREE JILLIO!
deafskeptic is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:18 PM   #12
Jiro
If You Know What I Mean
 
Jiro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Soprano State
Posts: 67,687
Likes: 14
Liked 114 Times in 80 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
We all know you can.
eck..... you just shot yourself in the foot ...
__________________
- Don't forget to buy Jiro's Special Edition Sunglasses for $19.95
Jiro is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:19 PM   #13
Beowulf
Premium Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 11,089
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
We all know you can.
Are you making mockery of some of our members' speech abilities?????
Beowulf is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:23 PM   #14
CSign
Registered User
 
CSign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Best Coast, USA
Posts: 3,282
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro View Post
we've had several threads about this in the past. I get what you're saying but it's very simple, really.... kitchen too hot? feel free to leave. they don't need to stay in kitchen and make a fuss.

All I can say is... either grow a thick skin or take it to PM land. and report the post if it's offensive to you.
Re bolded statement above: that is my point. This has clearly been an ongoing problem, and it would be nice for us to work together to make a change.

In terms of the kitchen being too hot... Well, if it were too hot for me I would have left a long time ago. I'm here with a purpose, and nothing will change that.

Last edited by CSign; 08-01-2011 at 06:24 PM. Reason: Typo
CSign is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:24 PM   #15
posts from hell
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,430
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro View Post
eck..... you just shot yourself in the foot ...
Funny how it doesn't take too long.
posts from hell is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:25 PM   #16
Bottesini
Old Deaf Ranter
 
Bottesini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: HFA
Posts: 41,367
Blog Entries: 1
Likes: 240
Liked 326 Times in 183 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
Are you making mockery of some of our members' speech abilities?????
Oh, my..

I can type it!
__________________
Bottesini is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:26 PM   #17
jillio
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 60,294
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
Re bolded statement above: that is my point. This has clearly been an ongoing problem, and it would be nice for us to work together to make a change.

In terms of the kitchen being too hot... Well, if it were too hot for me I would have left a long time ago. I'm here with a purpose, and nothing will change that.
You seem to be the one thinking it needs to change. The Deaf don't. If they did, it would have changed a long time ago. This is a Deaf forum. See the problem?
jillio is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:27 PM   #18
jillio
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 60,294
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bottesini View Post


Oh, my..

I can type it!
Me, too! Audist!

Now let's see you do it!
jillio is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:28 PM   #19
jillio
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 60,294
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by posts from hell View Post
Funny how it doesn't take too long.
Wonder how many bullet holes there are now?
jillio is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:28 PM   #20
CSign
Registered User
 
CSign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Best Coast, USA
Posts: 3,282
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro View Post
eck..... you just shot yourself in the foot ...
You have a point Jiro. I did not use enough restraint in that moment, although I have been practicing restraint the last number of days here.

It was just the same old comment that always seems to weasel it's way into the threads.

This thread had nothing to do with Audism. Why someone brought it up is beyond me. You all know my reference was not in regards to anyones "speech abilities."
CSign is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:29 PM   #21
posts from hell
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,430
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
You have a point Jiro. I did not use enough restraint in that moment, although I have been practicing restraint the last number of days here.

It was just the same old comment that always seems to weasel it's way into the threads.

This thread had nothing to do with Audism. Why someone brought it up is beyond me. You all know my reference was not in regards to anyones "speech abilities."
Get lost. That way we won't be arguing then this place will be much more peaceful.
posts from hell is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:30 PM   #22
CSign
Registered User
 
CSign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Best Coast, USA
Posts: 3,282
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jillio View Post
You seem to be the one thinking it needs to change. The Deaf don't. If they did, it would have changed a long time ago. This is a Deaf forum. See the problem?
As Jiro said, this has apparently come up many times in the past so I am not the only one thinking this way. I'm sure the people who "liked" my post feel the same way, otherwise they wouldn't have "liked" it.
CSign is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:31 PM   #23
jillio
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 60,294
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Deaf 14, dissenter wanting changes to a Deaf forum: 5. Looks like change is being voted out in this poll.

But, I don't recall anyone saying that AD was a democracy.
jillio is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:31 PM   #24
CSign
Registered User
 
CSign's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Best Coast, USA
Posts: 3,282
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by posts from hell View Post
Get lost. That way we won't be arguing then this place will be much more peaceful.
LOL. Ok.
CSign is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:32 PM   #25
posts from hell
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 9,430
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
As Jiro said, this has apparently come up many times in the past so I am not the only one thinking this way. I'm sure the people who "liked" my post feel the same way, otherwise they wouldn't have "liked" it.
We're not tired... Because.... We are passionate to correct other people way of thinking.

Amazingly, I've mentioned that I was tired once... And I got MASSIVE support in PM's and that's why I stuck around.

You people who sent me the PM's know who you are.

Since then - I do not feel any bit of fatigue. Not once.
posts from hell is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:32 PM   #26
Bottesini
Old Deaf Ranter
 
Bottesini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: HFA
Posts: 41,367
Blog Entries: 1
Likes: 240
Liked 326 Times in 183 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
You have a point Jiro. I did not use enough restraint in that moment, although I have been practicing restraint the last number of days here.

It was just the same old comment that always seems to weasel it's way into the threads.

This thread had nothing to do with Audism. Why someone brought it up is beyond me. You all know my reference was not in regards to anyones "speech abilities."
I know it wasn't. I just thought Beowulf's comment was funny.

A little argument makes people think.
__________________
Bottesini is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:33 PM   #27
Jiro
If You Know What I Mean
 
Jiro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Soprano State
Posts: 67,687
Likes: 14
Liked 114 Times in 80 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
Re bolded statement above: that is my point. This has clearly been an ongoing problem, and it would be nice for us to work together to make a change.

In terms of the kitchen being too hot... Well, if it were too hot for me I would have left a long time ago. I'm here with a purpose, and nothing will change that.
yes. the only solution, as mods/ADers recommended on numbers of time, is to use ignore button. very simple.

Same principle applies to real life events. Do you go and engage every single Westboro Baptist Church protester and say "it would be nice for us to work together to make a change"? Well guess what? These people are there with a purpose and nothing will change that either. And you as well so this thread is pointless.
__________________
- Don't forget to buy Jiro's Special Edition Sunglasses for $19.95
Jiro is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:33 PM   #28
jillio
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 60,294
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSign View Post
As Jiro said, this has apparently come up many times in the past so I am not the only one thinking this way. I'm sure the people who "liked" my post feel the same way, otherwise they wouldn't have "liked" it.
Yep. Other hearing audists have brought it up. They got the same response as you are getting. No one really cares what you think or what changes you think are necessary. Exert your free will and don't participate in what you dislike. Stop trying to get other people to change to meet your needs.
jillio is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:34 PM   #29
KStiletto
Registered User
 
KStiletto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
Posts: 558
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
KStiletto is offline  
Unread 08-01-2011, 06:34 PM   #30
Bottesini
Old Deaf Ranter
 
Bottesini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: HFA
Posts: 41,367
Blog Entries: 1
Likes: 240
Liked 326 Times in 183 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by jillio View Post
Deaf 14, dissenter wanting changes to a Deaf forum: 5. Looks like change is being voted out in this poll.

But, I don't recall anyone saying that AD was a democracy.
Benevolent dictatorship?
__________________
Bottesini is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:55 PM.


Join AllDeaf on Facebook!    Follow us on Twitter!

AllDeaf proudly supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

Copyright © 2002-2014, AllDeaf.com. All Rights Reserved.