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Unread 01-08-2012, 11:32 PM   #31 (permalink)
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no no no, Not calories, you must 'tickle' the body into Burning Mode...thats the trick,Burn the fat is all about controlling your metabolism NOT what you eat (well it is, but not the 'counting' it is more the TYPE and when you eat...

and how you eat is more important than WHAT you eat
Torque, baby, torque, baby! That'll burn off the fats. :-D
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Unread 01-08-2012, 11:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think our bodies need at least one day of rest instead of exercising every day. I tried that and ended up being burnt out.
Sounds good to me! Its also everybody has different response to rest and food and exercises. If keep learning more about oneself and pay attention to how body response to everything I should hope its a good thing lol otherwise im screwed and should just go to the bar. And just party and have all the goodies
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Unread 01-09-2012, 04:26 PM   #33 (permalink)
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i know, i not exercise everyday bec my body need break. i thinking about exercise 4 days everyweek. i will running and also, my friend give me her treadmill!!!! i will using it tonight.
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Unread 01-09-2012, 05:22 PM   #34 (permalink)
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i know, i not exercise everyday bec my body need break. i thinking about exercise 4 days everyweek. i will running and also, my friend give me her treadmill!!!! i will using it tonight.
Some people, when they go to the gym, will exercise every part of their body on the same day....it's a better idea to just exercise ur biceps and triceps one day...legs, squats the next day...etc., etc. Not all at once. That gives the muscles a day to rest...using the Treadmill should come first (to warm up).....and then last after you've exercised....Crunches first also (for the stomach).

Bring ur water bottle...and I was always extremely hungry after working out!...Going to the Subway for a Turkey Melt was delicious!
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Unread 01-09-2012, 07:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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no no no, Not calories, you must 'tickle' the body into Burning Mode...thats the trick,Burn the fat is all about controlling your metabolism NOT what you eat (well it is, but not the 'counting' it is more the TYPE and when you eat...

and how you eat is more important than WHAT you eat

I am not sure if you realise when you burn fat, you burn calories.
and since the fat contribute to a lot of calories, by burning it you simply burn a LOT of calories. The trick is to burn more than you eat, still.

Also, fat is not the only thing that controls metabolism. many factors control metabolism, and fat will control only ONE aspect of metabolism.
Read this for starters:
Metabolism

this is VERY interesting:
By now you’re probably wondering how you could increase your metabolic rate. That’s a good question. Here’s a simple formula for making it happen. First you’d begin to start exercising and you’d stop the dieting.

but you do need to change your eating habits as they obviously don't work

Ideally you want to eat foods that are lower in fat.

! exactly!! and less sugar

What is a Metabolism?

Now, this is what metabolism is.

But to actually LOSE weight, you STILL need to burn more than you eat.
For this, you need to be aware of the calorie content of the food you eat, no matter how many times a day.

You can't exercise ( or "burn the fat" all day) to burn up 3000 calories,
while at the same time eat 3.500 cal.

It won't work. You'll still gain weight.


I agree, however, there are two ways to lose weight - by burning fat, and by watching what you eat. Both require knowledge of calories.

I hardly ever exercised in my life. I simply know my food, what is the limit to my calorie intake.
And my weight at 165cm/5'4 was from 49kg at my lowest to 67kg at my highest - 100lbs to 147.4 lbs - ever.
I eat everything. Just low fat, little sugar, lots of veggies and fruit.
I do eat cakes and other sweets sometimes.


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Unread 01-15-2012, 02:53 PM   #36 (permalink)
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When I was a bodybuilder, I ate very clean food, absolutely nothing processed or refined whatsoever. Everything was made from scratch. However, I did allow myself one meal or one day a week in which I ate anything i wanted which made it very easy to stick to an otherwise very clean diet. I lived this way for about 7 years straight. Once you really understand nutrition and how your body processes fats, carbs and proteins, then it becomes supereasy after that to eat well without even thinking about it or worrying about weight.
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Unread 01-15-2012, 08:28 PM   #37 (permalink)
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so far, new diet successful. i exercising too, and i keep on lose weight. i stop eat sugar food like ice cream. very little dairy. i stop drink whole milk and stop eat sugary cereal like fruit loop. now for breakfast, i eat special K cereal with dried fruit and skim milk. then i have grapefruit and real orange juice. my diet improve!!!!!! before i eat too much starch and carb. now no more, i reduce. i been eat many fresh vegetable and fruit everyday. it make me feel more energy and good mood!!! less depression!!!!!
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Unread 01-15-2012, 08:44 PM   #38 (permalink)
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That's where you are wrong. Dead wrong.

Notice that in every legitimate weight loss program, such as Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig,
or- TV The Biggest Loser, etc where really only the TRAINED nutritionists and trainers
work on the special menus and exercise programs, people actually LOSE weight - IF they stick to the suggestions - -

they always always always have the calorie content of the food/meal they
provide.

have you ever seen The Biggest Loser episode where the contestants had to
compete in quickly arrange the dishes
in order from their lowest to highest caloric content ? (or vice versa, but whatever)


WHY is that?
Because every diet, regardless of whether it is concentrated on "fat burning metabolism", "glicemic index", "low carbs" etc- has one common denominator -
always! - it's usually low calorie anyway, and
you must burn more than you eat, period.


btw, whether you eat 5 small meals or three big ones - as long as you stay within burn more- eat less, you lose weight all the same.

That is, if you want to lose weight. If you want to stay steady, just burn what you eat.

RockinRobin - her diet suggestion are precisely LOW CALORIE diet -
lost of veggies, steamed chicken, NO junk food, low fat milk,
no alcohol ( lots of calories!), no sugared cereal etc - all great merits of good low calorie diet

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Actually Grummer was absolutely correct in that 5-6 smaller meals a day is far more efficiently utilized energy-wise than three big ones.
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Unread 01-15-2012, 08:53 PM   #39 (permalink)
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The nutritionist that I saw a while back said just what DC and Grummer are saying. It is better for most people to have 5-6 "mini-meals" daily as opposed to 3 big meals. Also, not that it matters here, but most diabetics are advised that it is also safer for their glycemic index to eat 6 mini-meals daily.

When I was on Weight Watchers, and using the point plan, I went with the 6 mini-meals daily and lost quite a bit of weight and always felt satisfied through the day. I can't do that now as I have to do all the meals and my mother can't eat that way, and my son feels he needs more food.

Yes, you do need to burn more calories and you consume to lose weight, but you also need to eat more effectively and keep your glycemic index level throughout the day as well.
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I lost weight 20 lbs abt 7mo started in last year.
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Unread 01-15-2012, 10:30 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I lost weight 20 lbs abt 7mo started in last year.
congrat! you happy satisfy with current weight? i need lost 20 lb now, then i happy with new weight!
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My Dr. has put me on a diet and he also says to divide my meals and have less than 30 percent of total calories as fat. He says to eat healthy fat such as avocadoes. He says that mashed avocado and not mayo on a sandwich will help you lose weight and lower cholesterol. He says that lots of vegetables and no (NO) red meat is best for me. He did like it when I was healthier vegetarian but understands how hard that is with no good whole foods store here. I try very hard now not to gain more weight. I have lost a pound a week so far. That is the goal. Slow and steady so not to stress the heart and to keep the weight off. He said that fast weight loss can stress the heart. How do you feel about that? I did not know that or had forgotten it.

Oh, my goal is to lose as much weight as my large dog weighs. lol
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Unread 01-16-2012, 08:02 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Slow and steady weight loss is the way to go. Very rapid weight loss is not healthy for the heart.

The more your food is made from scratch, and the more fruits and vegetables you eat, the more you opt for vegetable fat over animal fat, the better off you'll be health-wise.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 08:04 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Slow and steady weight loss is the way to go. Very rapid weight loss is not healthy for the heart.

The more your food is made from scratch, and the more fruits and vegetables you eat, the more you opt for vegetable fat over animal fat, the better off you'll be health-wise.
also in case of rapid weight loss, this releases enough toxins buried in your fat to kill you
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Unread 01-16-2012, 09:05 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I had to google that. So you soak your rice for about a day before cooking it?

Not all the web sites said the same thing.
I have the Zojirushi cooker(very expensive). True GABA takes 24 hours to soak and you can't do it at home because the water colud go bad. The machine I have does it for 2 hours, not the same, but it's something.

You can also buy pre-soaked rice(germinated), but it is very expensive.
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Unread 01-16-2012, 09:15 AM   #46 (permalink)
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That is true. But its also true that some foods are more of a trigger for an out of control appetite for some people. For me it's chocolate, for others it may be salty potato chips. I can have one chip and not want another for a long time but that is definitely not true for a lot of people.

I can't just have one piece of chocolate anything except for hot chocolate.

I'm tired of yo-yoing up and down the weight scale. So ... no more chocolate for me. Except for hot chocolate, that doesn't trigger the same kind of reaction for me. Probably because I'm actually reacting to the chocolate, sugar & fat combination and when I do have hot chocolate its low-fat chocolate with additional spices -- not just sugar. I also add in cinnamon and cayenne pepper. I love cayenne pepper!

Anyway, to bring this back to the OP. Figure out if you have any out of control appetite triggers and if you do, quit them cold turkey. It is much easier to be in charge of what you eat if you avoid those foods then to just try to have a little of those foods and then try to stick to a reasonable eating plan. It's like an alcoholic trying to say he can have one drink a day. Uh, no -- not everyone can.
I discovered something very fascinating - all my life I've had a very sweet tooth and always loved candy to the point of stealing my siblings' hallowe'en candy. had no resistance to rock candy or chocolate and this was something I always dealt with my entire life. However, since switching to veganism, my sweet tooth virtually disappeared. I still like sweets but I can easily go for days without having a hankering for something sweet to eat. Not even when I was a meat eating bodybuilder did my taste for sugar diminish, it was just controlled and managed. Now, there's no need to control it because the cravings don't exist anymore.
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since i start on new diet, my crave for chocolate, sweet food reduce little. but i still fight crave for lava chocolate raspberry cake. that my weakness!

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Actually Grummer was absolutely correct in that 5-6 smaller meals a day is far more efficiently utilized energy-wise than three big ones.
Caroline, that wasn't what I meant:

btw, whether you eat 5 small meals or three big ones - as long as you stay within burn more- eat less, you lose weight all the same.


I simply point out about calorie intake vs burning them at the end of the day.

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