anyone here enjoy shooting guns? for sport or hunting. - Page 4

**TXgolfer** · 12-02-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Let's see the proof! I don't need it because I am in the profession and know the truth but I believe that others would like to see what you come up with. I added nothing but rather clarified as to exactly what I was speaking of. What do think I am some not job that thinks all cops support any old convicted felon or mentally ill person carrying a concealed weapon? You are trolling once again. Go back under the bridge or fish elsewhere!

Ah just ingnore the troll so we can enjoy our thread. Some people just don't get it. No biggie.

Avoid the noid!

**TXgolfer** · 12-02-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cappy

TXgolfer: Shotgun vs cow patties! that made me laugh out loud! bet it was hella fun too!

It was a blast.... oh wait

airportcop · 12-02-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

So because you are "in the profession" you automatically know the stance of every other person in the profession? That is a bit of an unrealistic claim.

Yes, you clarified by adding an addendum to your original statement.

When you start listing exceptions to your origninal claim, it nullifies the truth of the original claim.

It gives me the insight and knowledge of how other officers feel. I have also learned of the stats on what other officers think about it. Uh, let's see, saying that police officers support concealed carry laws for citizens is different from saying police officers support concealed carry for citizens as long as they have background checks and proper training differs how exactly??? Without the background checks and training it wouldn't be legal and we wouldn't support it! Duh!!!!!

airportcop · 12-02-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

It was a blast.... oh wait

I've got try the cow patties! Sounds like much fun! I like shooting glass too but it is too messy and you could never get away with that at a public range. If you haven't shot metal plate targets then you are really missing out on the fun too. Some are set up to fall, some spin! Really cool!

airportcop · 12-02-2011, 04:35 PM

I like historical military weapons as well! Cowboy shooting looks like fun. Skeet and trap are fun. Anyone here ever shoot a fully automatic weapon? I have once and it was mighty cool! It was a 9mm Steyr Aug! 30 rounds gone in seconds! A little too costly for me though.

airportcop · 12-02-2011, 04:45 PM

I really wish I purchased an SKS or AK before the price went so high. Anyone here shoot them?

**Beowulf** · 12-02-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

I really wish I purchased an SKS or AK before the price went so high. Anyone here shoot them?

I recently got rid of my AK-M. It was fun to shoot at the river, and easy to field strip.

airportcop · 12-02-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

I recently got rid of my AK-M. It was fun to shoot at the river, and easy to field strip.

What is the M model?

**Beowulf** · 12-02-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

What is the M model?

It's the "civilian version" of the AK-47 and a nice, compact rifle. It has no kick and is loud as hell. I used .223 ammo and enjoyed shooting at debris floating in the river. A friend begged me for it so I sold it to him cheap.
There's a picture of one at The AKM in pictures... - Uniforms

jillio · 12-02-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

It gives me the insight and knowledge of how other officers feel. I have also learned of the stats on what other officers think about it. Uh, let's see, saying that police officers support concealed carry laws for citizens is different from saying police officers support concealed carry for citizens as long as they have background checks and proper training differs how exactly??? Without the background checks and training it wouldn't be legal and we wouldn't support it! Duh!!!!!

Care to present those stats here as support for your claim?

You have insight and knowlege regarding how you, as an officer, feels. But since all experiences of all officers are far from homogenous, you cannot transfer your perspective to others.

Yes, it is quite different, and that is evident by the fact that you had to parse it as two different phrases. Of course concealed carry could be legal without background checks and training. Where do you get the idea that it couldn't?

Steinhauer · 12-02-2011, 06:47 PM

I used to have a Yugoslavian SKS with the grenade launcher attached. I wish I still had it, it was fun to shoot.

I ** think** there is a dealer called Century Arms that run deals every month.

Cappy · 12-02-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

I really wish I purchased an SKS or AK before the price went so high. Anyone here shoot them?

I have 2 Yugo SKS M59/66A1, 7.62x39, DOB 1971 and 1975. All numbers match w/ flip-up phosphor night sights and grenade launcher. I love shooting these rifles they are very accurate and built like a tank and are quite heavy @ 9lbs. So much fun to shoot.

I have shot over 500rds of 1970-1990 milsurp Yugo 7.62x39 123gr in each rifle and had no issues with either of them, no jamming, no stove pipes, no misfires. Only complaint was they came packed in cosmoline! Anyone ever deal with this shit? its nasty! Got mine for $320 each out the door. Current prices range from $320-$340 OTD.

Cappy · 12-02-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

I used to have a Yugoslavian SKS with the grenade launcher attached. I wish I still had it, it was fun to shoot.

I ** think** there is a dealer called Century Arms that run deals every month.

Yeah, I check them out now and then. Also try Classic Arms Inc. For some neat Military Surplus weapons. I have not dealt with either of them though.

airportcop · 12-02-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cappy

I have 2 Yugo SKS M59/66A1, 7.62x39, DOB 1971 and 1975. All numbers match w/ flip-up phosphor night sights and grenade launcher. I love shooting these rifles they are very accurate and built like a tank and are quite heavy @ 9lbs. So much fun to shoot.

I have shot over 500rds of 1970-1990 milsurp Yugo 7.62x39 123gr in each rifle and had no issues with either of them, no jamming, no stove pipes, no misfires. Only complaint was they came packed in cosmoline! Anyone ever deal with this shit? its nasty! Got mine for $320 each out the door. Current prices range from $320-$340 OTD.

Cosmoline yuk! Nasty stuff yet very effective at preserving things like guns!

airportcop · 12-02-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Care to present those stats here as support for your claim?

You have insight and knowlege regarding how you, as an officer, feels. But since all experiences of all officers are far from homogenous, you cannot transfer your perspective to others.

Yes, it is quite different, and that is evident by the fact that you had to parse it as two different phrases. Of course concealed carry could be legal without background checks and training. Where do you get the idea that it couldn't?

No, remember I asked you for the proof first. Two can play this game!

Well for starters it is illegal as heck in Missouri and most other states to conceal carry without a background check or training. Better look at the laws miss attorney!

airportcop · 12-02-2011, 07:43 PM

This is for you jillio since you don't seem to be a good lawyer!

Shall-Issue
A Shall-Issue jurisdiction is one that requires a permit to carry a concealed handgun, but where the granting of such permits is subject only to meeting certain criteria laid out in the law; the granting authority has no discretion in the awarding of the permits. Such laws typically state that a granting authority shall issue a permit if the criteria are met, as opposed to laws in which the authority may issue a permit at their discretion.
Typical permit requirements include residency, minimum age, submitting fingerprints, passing a computerized instant background check, attending a certified handgun/firearm safety class, and paying a required fee. These requirements vary widely by jurisdiction.
The following are undisputed Shall-Issue states: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina,[10] North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee,[11] Texas, Utah,[12] Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming .[7]

Cappy · 12-02-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

I like historical military weapons as well! Cowboy shooting looks like fun. Skeet and trap are fun. Anyone here ever shoot a fully automatic weapon? I have once and it was mighty cool! It was a 9mm Steyr Aug! 30 rounds gone in seconds! A little too costly for me though.

I have not shot a full-auto, would love to try it though. They are a no-no here in Illinois so, so, sad! Got a story though: One day at the shooting range, minding my own beeswax, I heard this Rat-a-tat, RAT-A-TAT RRRRAAATTTAAATTTAATTTTT yes, I am deaf but I heard that summabitch and it demanded my attention , i looked to the left and saw someone with a M2 .50 BMG on a tripod and watched in awe as they were going wide open. I later found out it was a classIII (?) dealer there doing a promo type of thing and anyone could shoot it at $5/round...no thank you!

**TXgolfer** · 12-03-2011, 04:47 AM

I will be hunting Elk next week

airportcop · 12-03-2011, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I will be hunting Elk next week

I'm jealous! Never been much of a hunter. Kind of a city boy with a country attitude. Deer hunted a few times unsuccesslly with bow & gun. The older I get the more I feel that I would enjoy hunting. Have fun and hope you get a good one.

airportcop · 12-03-2011, 05:28 AM

The AK is a great platform. I was looking at the Saiga rifles and shotguns as well. Wouldn't mind having one in 12 gauge and .223.

**TXgolfer** · 12-03-2011, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

I'm jealous! Never been much of a hunter. Kind of a city boy with a country attitude. Deer hunted a few times unsuccesslly with bow & gun. The older I get the more I feel that I would enjoy hunting. Have fun and hope you get a good one.

Thx. My cousin is a guide. I sent him an email letting him know I have to go to New Mexico next week to put up Christmas lights and he invited me for a couple of days. We have hunted Cougars and Mule Deer in the past as well. Plus we went to The White Sands Missle range a few years ago and bagged a HUGE Oryx. My uncle pulled the trigger on that one. THAT was pretty cool.

airportcop · 12-03-2011, 08:28 AM

Now that is awesome! Did you see any cougars?

Cappy · 12-03-2011, 10:49 AM

Cowboy shooting does sound fun! I really like those Ruger Vaqueros and Blackhawks but the Heritage Arms wheel guns are more my price range.

**Jiro** · 12-03-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Now that is awesome! Did you see any cougars?

yes I did. I just spied one at lobby room

Cowpuppy · 12-03-2011, 11:09 AM

ha ha ...just what we need on this site. web sites to purchase your alldeaf war weapons.

Cappy · 12-03-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

I'm jealous! Never been much of a hunter. Kind of a city boy with a country attitude. Deer hunted a few times unsuccesslly with bow & gun. The older I get the more I feel that I would enjoy hunting. Have fun and hope you get a good one.

We have similar backgrounds except, I was a rural town farmer boy kind of thing. I went thru the whole gamut of youth weapons like the pea-shooter, sling shot, BB guns, pellet guns in pistol&rifle, never cared for C02 since I thought they were too weak compared to my pellet gun, recurve bows, .22's and finally shotguns. Ah, the good old days.

I once snuck my Dad's .16 ga out, the recoil nearly took my arm off...and I never touched than thing again.

Okay back on track, hunting wise I got one pheasant w/ .20ga and a few groundhogs with my Ben Pearson 45# Cougar recurve bow (still have it), that is about all I ever got hunting lifetime, I once tried bow fishing but lost my only fishing arrow in the creek because I forgot to press the release button on my Zebco reel that I taped to my bow so that was the end of it.

Being deaf, I'm a bad Indian, I'm just too noisy, I scare off all wildlife in a tri-county radius... so now I stick with target shooting.

airportcop · 12-03-2011, 12:07 PM

Yeah, I would like to get back into shooting my Hoyt bow and maybe take up turkey hunting or wild boars.

airportcop · 12-03-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cappy

We have similar backgrounds except, I was a rural town farmer boy kind of thing. I went thru the whole gamut of youth weapons like the pea-shooter, sling shot, BB guns, pellet guns in pistol&rifle, never cared for C02 since I thought they were too weak compared to my pellet gun, recurve bows, .22's and finally shotguns. Ah, the good old days.

I once snuck my Dad's .16 ga out, the recoil nearly took my arm off...and I never touched than thing again.

Okay back on track, hunting wise I got one pheasant w/ .20ga and a few groundhogs with my Ben Pearson 45# Cougar recurve bow (still have it), that is about all I ever got hunting lifetime, I once tried bow fishing but lost my only fishing arrow in the creek because I forgot to press the release button on my Zebco reel that I taped to my bow so that was the end of it.

Being deaf, I'm a bad Indian, I'm just too noisy, I scare off all wildlife in a tri-county radius... so now I stick with target shooting.

I'm a bad Indian too and I'm only slighty hard of hearing! Lost half of my high frequency hearing. Loud music, guns and jet airplanes!

jillio · 12-03-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

No, remember I asked you for the proof first. Two can play this game!

Well for starters it is illegal as heck in Missouri and most other states to conceal carry without a background check or training. Better look at the laws miss attorney!

I have provided substantiation for everything I have claimed.

Just because the numbers don't jive with your opinion doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means that you choose to be willfully ignorant in order to preserve your fantasy world.

That doesn't support anything.

It truly is amazing how you and Steiny not only mirror each other's opinions, but that you use the exact same phrasing to do so. Brothers in arms?

**TXgolfer** · 12-03-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Now that is awesome! Did you see any cougars?

Just at the Casino.

Cougar hunting is kind of spooky. We saw the tracks and knew they were there but never saw them.

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12-02-2011, 04:35 PM	#95 (permalink)
airportcop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,088	I like historical military weapons as well! Cowboy shooting looks like fun. Skeet and trap are fun. Anyone here ever shoot a fully automatic weapon? I have once and it was mighty cool! It was a 9mm Steyr Aug! 30 rounds gone in seconds! A little too costly for me though.

12-02-2011, 04:45 PM	#96 (permalink)
airportcop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,088	I really wish I purchased an SKS or AK before the price went so high. Anyone here shoot them?

12-02-2011, 07:43 PM	#106 (permalink)
airportcop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,088	This is for you jillio since you don't seem to be a good lawyer! Shall-Issue A Shall-Issue jurisdiction is one that requires a permit to carry a concealed handgun, but where the granting of such permits is subject only to meeting certain criteria laid out in the law; the granting authority has no discretion in the awarding of the permits. Such laws typically state that a granting authority shall issue a permit if the criteria are met, as opposed to laws in which the authority may issue a permit at their discretion. Typical permit requirements include residency, minimum age, submitting fingerprints, passing a computerized instant background check, attending a certified handgun/firearm safety class, and paying a required fee. These requirements vary widely by jurisdiction. The following are undisputed Shall-Issue states: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina,[10] North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee,[11] Texas, Utah,[12] Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming .[7]

12-03-2011, 05:28 AM	#110 (permalink)
airportcop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,088	The AK is a great platform. I was looking at the Saiga rifles and shotguns as well. Wouldn't mind having one in 12 gauge and .223.

12-03-2011, 08:28 AM	#112 (permalink)
airportcop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,088	Now that is awesome! Did you see any cougars?

12-03-2011, 10:49 AM	#113 (permalink)
Cappy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 68	Cowboy shooting does sound fun! I really like those Ruger Vaqueros and Blackhawks but the Heritage Arms wheel guns are more my price range.

12-03-2011, 11:09 AM	#115 (permalink)
Cowpuppy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On The Road Again Posts: 820	ha ha ...just what we need on this site. web sites to purchase your alldeaf war weapons.