RustyLastCall05

Anyone here is interested in genealogy?

I have been really interested in genealogy for 15 years and I volunteers at New England Historic Genealogical Society for 5 years now.

Deafness

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Buffalo

I am. The trouble is that all of my grandparents were born in Europe so I have to do the search at LDS Family History.

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katz4life

Yes, here I am. A little motivation in researching my genealogy after tiring years with a little or no more information left to find where and who my Swede and Norsk relatives before 1850 are. Not sure what else to find other than ancestry.com

MCB

Many people who have looked at the LDS data base have complained that it contains many inaccuarcies. Be best to double-check everything.

LDS use geneaological information to perform temple rituals for deceased people who are not related to them. I recently found out that two of my great great grandparents have been recently sealed in marriage forever in a Mormon temple. Odd, since he was one of the men who participated in the killing of Joseph Smith.

I personally think that geneaology is only useful for finding lost living branches of your family, and understanding your cultural heritage. For that, going back to great-great is all that is necessary.

Reba

I've done extensive genealogical research on my family. I've used family documents and hands on research at cemeteries and museums. Ancestry.com is useful. The LDS site is handy but not totally reliable. I use Family Tree Maker software to keep everything organized.

I've found websites that are specific to the home countries are very helpful. I got a lot of personal help from the administrator at the Portuguese website, including translation of documents.

The Ellis Island resources are supposed to be pretty good. I couldn't use them because none of my ancestors came thru Ellis.

sallylou

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I just got Family Tree Maker to save my trees on ancestry.com. Still learning how to use it.
My cousins already researched my paternal side. Working on the other side.
Any one have suggestions for OK territory records?

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Buffalo

The census records do contain errors. I found some mistakes in one of the census and I believe it is due to my grandmother's limited English. What she said became something completely different. I would love to be a fly on the wall when that happened.

I like doing genealogy because it makes you see history up-close. You learn more about the country(ies) the further back you go. I would go far back as I can.

The tidbit about your ancestor involved in the murder of Joseph Smith and was sealed in the marriage is very interesting. I thought one had to be related to the person so one could be baptisted in the ancestor's name.

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AlleyCat

Can you tell me about some of the Ellis Island resources you mentioned?

Buffalo

Ellis Island - FREE Port of New York Passenger Records Search

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Buffalo

Did your ancestors come before there was Ellis Island? or they came via New Orleans?

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Reba

I haven't used them myself because my family didn't come in that way but these might be useful:

Ellis Island - FREE Port of New York Passenger Records Search

Ellis Island - FREE Port of New York Passenger Records Search

KristinaB

My mothers Aunt had done a family tree of my mother's father's side of the family. The Aunt was his sister. That is all basically in Australia and going back to England and goes back to the year 1571. Mother and I had been slowly working on both her mother's side of the family as well as both sides of my father's family. Her mother's family I have back to 1790 and they originally came from England and Cherokee. My father's family, we have both sides back to approximately 1600's going to Prussia and England.

Reba

Before Ellis Island immigration opened.

AlleyCat

Thank you !!!

Buffalo

Ever use this link?: Castle Garden

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Reba

No, I haven't but it's a good one. Thanks for posting it.

My ancestors arrived before Castle Garden opened.

Buffalo

Oh, that far back! Ok, I hope you got the names.

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sara1981

my mom and my family search family tree genealogy but my mom's family is from Scotland and my dad's family is from Germany..

last years my mom went to Scotland May/June 2010 to find her family genealogy its hard find but i wanted go there somedays..

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MCB

They continue breaking the rules. There is still a problem with them baptising Holocaust victims. The sealing was not a baptism, so I guess they thought it was OK. I really don't care, because the more time they spend in their temples, the less time they have to play their other games.

I want to go to England to research my grandfather's family. He was the only European-born grandparent.

Another branch of the family in the 1850 census, they left "race" blank. That is an indication that they were Native. I have a bunch of dead ends, probably because of Native (and possibly other) ancestry.

Freed slaves who could pass for white would blur their history. That could also account for another dead end. It was much easier for people to disappear into the population then, than now.

katz4life

On my father's side - surnames: Frederick, Dunn, Rodgers (From Germany, Ireland, Scotland-United Kingdom)

Frederick clan came to America in 1851 and Frederick settled in Ohio and later in Nebraska and Kansas.
Dunn and Rodgers came to America in 1750s.

On my mother's side - surnames: Dempsey, Karlsson, Faergstrom. (From Ireland, Norway, Sweden)

My mother's grandparents of Norway and Sweden fled to elope in America (in New York City) from Scandinavia in 1880s?

Dempseys raised in New York City during 1800s - my great-great grandfather, my great grandfather, and my grandpa raised in Hell's Kitchen and somewhere in Five Points. If you have seen the movie - Gangs in NY, you know what it was like back then. Yes, my grandfathers were involved in Irish gangster organization. My grandpa used to sell blackmarketing -Whiskeys during Prohibition Era.

dogmom

I'm interested in geneology. There's a whole lot we don't know and all my grandparents are dead. It's possible that my bubbe from Kiev came through Ellis but she never wanted to discuss it with anyone and she died when I was 17. All we know there is she came to get away from the pogroms, when she was 11 with a bunch of other family, most of the whom are dead or we don't know where they are now. We think that side of the family bought a dead person's name to get here so we don't even really know my dad's last name. His sister had started doing some research and then she died. Less than that is known about my father's dad and even less known about my mom's side of the family - her mother was very mentally and physically abusive and may have had depression among other mental illness; my mother and her little sister were told often by their mother how much she hated them and wished they'd never been born, wanted them out of her house etc. So I never met her and she died when I probably about 10.

Especially when he was younger, many times people of both Native and not-Native background assume my dad to be of Native American descent.

He also gets particular scrutiny at airports; he was traveling with my mom once and she recalls how people really kept looking at him that particular time and he was pulled aside and taken somewhere where he had to take everything off - she was ignored altogether-

sometimes I do watch that show - think it's called, "Who Do You Think You Are?"

dogmom

Katz4Life, yes I did see that!

katz4life

I understand how that is, my aunt is like that. My aunt wish my 4 cousins dead. Well, it is not her fault. Because I believe it caused her to have mental illness and now she is agorphobia - my mother told me the horrible story about what happened to my aunt back in 1971 she had three children and she was about 8 or 9 months pregnant with 4th child waiting in hostipal room for check-up. My uncle was at work (she thought he was). She rests on bed and there was another pregnant woman lying on the next bed to my aunt. They introduced one another and they had a nice chitchat. I think the woman was about 7 months pregnant at the time, went to the hospital for usual check-up on baby. She told my aunt that her boyfriend is on the way to meet her at the hospital. The boyfriend of hers had arrived in the hospital to see her - my aunt saw him and was in very baffled state when the woman said hey and was happy to see her boyfriend. The man standing next to the pregnant woman was my UNCLE.
My aunt started to realize and found out....yeah my uncle had affair and had this girlfriend mistress pregnant. My uncle smirked at her and laughing at my aunt. My aunt went to this horrible screaming she stood up on hospital bed and screaming the whole hospital could have heard her. It caused her to have a shock labor. It was very sad for her to through like that. After giving the birth to baby boy (my cousin Jimmy whose has been disappeared since 2004), she filed for divorce. She remarried in late 1970s to my 2nd uncle Chuck and had 2 more boys in 1980 and 1982. My aunt loves my 2 cousins so much but she doesn't want to have anything to do with my 4 cousins from her previous marriage. No, I never met my 1st uncle. I only saw photos and home videos (including my aunt and his wedding in 1965) What he did...boy I have nothing to respect him. OH no, that's right I remember I was told that he was half Native Indian Cherokee! My 3 of 4 cousins have 1/4 Cherokee Indian looks. Light tan skins.

I still never forget at my cousin Laura's (my aunt's 3rd child) wake service in 2004, my aunt and my cousin Diane (my aunt's 1st child) had big fight in the next room. What my aunt said to my cousin was hurting my cousin's feeling big time. My aunt told her that she was glad Laura finally died and hope my cousin Diane and cousin David to be the next one to die. That was how I saw my cousin Diane wailed out crying so much in front of people at the funreal. It was real hard to deal how offensive my aunt made....she has this serious mental illness...post traumatic stress disorder plus some kind of schizenorphria (sp?) After the day of my cousin Laura's wake, my cousin Jimmy suddenly disappeared. We haven't seen or heard from him since.

Barbaro

My half-brothers are direct descendent of first cousin of Joseph Smith. My mother does use LDS Family Search, and yes, she found many errors, and was able to contact her LDS family members who put errors there. It is the only way to correct the errors is you have to order microfilms from the LDS Family History Library in Utah. The LDS Family History Library (headquarters) in Utah collects all kind of microfilms from all around the world. The church has been digitizing the genealogical microfilms for a while now. It also has a huge record vault in the mountain that have over 2.4 million microfilms. Her LDS family members depend on my mother entirely now because she is the only one who speaks Old Prussian/German, and read Old German writing style on microfilms, which is extremely difficult to read. It is enough to make your eyes blurry.

Many LDS members with no interest in doing genealogy don't know where to start it or can't read microfilms in different languages. Many LDS members just happen to have pedigree papers, and casually post it on the Family Search without researching it first. LDS church does not approve it the way they do their work.

LDS church had changed the policy since the Jewish holocaust victims incident. The current policy requires that you must provide the evidences that you are a descendent of your ancestor to perform them. If the evidence is insufficient, then you are not allowed to perform it. The problem is that before the policy is enforced, many records and errors on the Family Search online are still there. LDS Church urges LDS members to research it carefully, and gather physical evidences first. LDS Church has been trying to correct it, and in order to prevent it from making another mistake, LDS Church has decided to create another new website for LDS members only, because the website is Facebook style where you type your ancestor's name, boom! It tells you your ancestor's birth date, birthplace, etc, and, a new cool feature- it lists other LDS members who share the same ancestor. It allows them to contact each other to ensure with physical evidences (journal, photos,etc.) the ancestor's name, birth date, birth place etc are correct.

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PowerON

I start few months ago by ask from my family to other family. It's getting more complex lineup. I'm have headache for these. lol

But I enjoy to learn about my family

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MCB

Barbaro;

Well, the sealing was done in Korea. Given the antipathy many LDS have for people with ancestry like mine, I wouldn't be surprised if many disagree with that action.

People who think that baptising their ancestors and indirect relatives will make their present lives better through some miracle have a screw loose somewhere. Geneaology has its uses, primarily as family therapy. There are some situations where we have no way of knowing what REALLY happened.

I am glad that they are making progress on accuracy.

Barbaro

If the sealing was performed by a descendent, it is permitted.

Actually, their purpose is not to make their lives better through whatever it is. Their purpose is after it is performed, it is up to ancestor in afterlife to make her/his decision to accept it or not.

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MCB

Yes. That is the doctrine, and the reason why I don't oppose it. The underlying assumption by some contributes to the fever in the activity.

Barbaro

I don't oppose it as well. I'm glad that the LDS church has been trying to correct it. I agree with that part where you said that "There are some situations where we have no way of knowing what REALLY happened."

I heard that the LDS church will cancel the sealing or baptism if any bad research does not provide sufficient evidence or it is performed in any inappropriate way.

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MCB

Nice that it is an option for those to care. I am more concerned with those LDS who meddle in the lives of the living based on PROTECTED characteristics.