How do you like the label 'Special Ed's student?

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I did not like being called a 'Special Ed's student when I was in school as the teachers did not want to spend any time helping a student labeled as kid that could not learn.
How do you feel about the tilte 'Special Ed's till being used today?






I guess you can't fix the headline once it up.
 
I think it is horrible. I was called special too many times by my teachers growing up. It made me feel like something was wrong with me.
 
Lables shmables. What's in a lable. No matter what you call it there are going to be some that are offended. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying one way or another if I agree with the term. I am curious though as to what anyone else would call it.
 
rockdrummer said:
Lables shmables. What's in a lable. No matter what you call it there are going to be some that are offended. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying one way or another if I agree with the term. I am curious though as to what anyone else would call it.
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When you are mainstreamed as the only deaf kid trying to fit in, having that label can make it harder for one to fit in. Despite going to all classes with my hearing peers, being identified as a special ed student set me apart automatically.
 
shel90 said:
When you are mainstreamed as the only deaf kid trying to fit in, having that label made it much harder for me to fit in because I was automatically set apart from others even though I didnt go to any different classes.
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If you are mainstreamed then you wouldn't have that label, would you? I thought mainstreamed and special ed are mutually exclusive.
 
rockdrummer said:
If you are mainstreamed then you wouldn't have that label, would you? I thought mainstreamed and special ed are mutually exclusive.
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Well, my teachers calling me a special ed child in front of my classmates really did not help. I dont know why they did that.
 
rockdrummer said:
If you are mainstreamed then you wouldn't have that label, would you? I thought mainstreamed and special ed are mutually exclusive.
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Absolutely not. I was mainstreamed all my years and considered a Special Ed kid. I was bullied and mocked all my school years. Too many of us on this forum have said the same. That comes from having a Special Ed label. If you didn't experience that, then please don't say "labels shmable." It is not as simple as you just made it out to be.
 
rockdrummer said:
Lables shmables. What's in a lable. No matter what you call it there are going to be some that are offended. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying one way or another if I agree with the term. I am curious though as to what anyone else would call it.
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people thinking like you are the problem...
 
Not only deafies feel this way, hearies do the same....One of my sons is in the ISP/ESP program, he gets a "one on one" and extra help/more time for some classes, especially mathmatics. He's doing well, and hoping to attend full "regular" classes next year, he's a B-C-D student so far. He's capable...just needs "a little help and more time"....
However, his younger brother is all A and advanced....but there's no sibling rivarly between them.....
 
My niece has asperger's and she was bullied in school the whole time. When she was in high school and getting ready to go to college my niece did not want to be labeled as a 'special ed student and did not want it in her college records. The label 'special ed student' sounded awful 50 years ago and it still sound awful to today. When some people see the label 'special ed student' in a kid record that person had already decided this kid is not going to waste my time in a class room. and that student does not get the help they need. I know what I am talking about.
Putting the label 'special ed student ' on a student can be very self defeating on some students. If a kid already has poor self esteem like my niece had being called a 'special ed student' is not going to made her feel
better about herself. I would love to see the people that came up with this label , have some kind 'label 'next to their name. lf a person lies all the time they should have the label 'liar' next to their name.
 
Or Learning Disability because you are deaf and you don't have a learning disability. They just wanted to put me in that class because of no deaf program and they felt I won't fail English that way. Yes, they actually told me that I was in a risk of failing English in the middle of my 7th grade and they wanted to save me from failing. (the truth was that I didn't do my homeworks and and the 7th grade teacher mumbles alot.. I don't think she wanted me in her class at all) They told me that I had to go rather wanted it or not because I'm deaf and I'm in the special education program.


You enter their class and the word "LEARNING DISABILITY CLASS" is written loud and bold. Can't they just call it English class? or Math class?
 
It's not the label that causes bullying, it is the fact that kids pick on kids that are different. Do you really think that if you were deaf or had a learning disability or have autism, but didn't have an IEP things would have been peachy?
 
faire_jour said:
It's not the label that causes bullying, it is the fact that kids pick on kids that are different. Do you really think that if you were deaf or had a learning disability or have autism, but didn't have an IEP things would have been peachy?
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FJ...the issue is the label. The OP asked for our opinion about it and many of us agreed that it is not good to have it. It seems like the hearing people here think the label is ok to have.

Maybe it is because you never have to live with it.
 
shel90 said:
FJ...the issue is the label. The OP asked for our opinion about it and many of us agreed that it is not good to have it. It seems like the hearing people here think the label is ok to have.

Maybe it is because you never have to live with it.
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Why on earth do you assume I didn't have special education services as a child?

Without special education laws and IEP's all deaf students would be required to be mainstreamed with out any services. Is that a better option?
 
faire_jour said:
It's not the label that causes bullying, it is the fact that kids pick on kids that are different. Do you really think that if you were deaf or had a learning disability or have autism, but didn't have an IEP things would have been peachy?
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Semantics. Kids that pick on kids that are different do so because they're labeled as different. It doesn't have to be written in an IEP or on their forehead or in a classroom. Kids who saw other kids who were fat labeled them as fat. Kids who saw other kids as deaf labeled them as deaf. Kids who saw other kids as special education students labeled them just that. They all still got bullied. The label is exactly what does it. Without a label, that kid is not deemed as someone different and usually are not picked on.
 
faire_jour said:
Why on earth do you assume I didn't have special education services as a child?

Without special education laws and IEP's all deaf students would be required to be mainstreamed with out any services. Is that a better option?
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That's why I said "maybe" ...I meant to add a question mark to that, not a period. My mistake.

If you think it is ok that's your right but let us be entitled to our opinions and feelings about it instead of arguing about it.
 
AlleyCat said:
Semantics. Kids that pick on kids that are different do so because they're labeled as different. It doesn't have to be written in an IEP or on their forehead or in a classroom. Kids who saw other kids who were fat labeled them as fat. Kids who saw other kids as deaf labeled them as deaf. Kids who saw other kids as special education students labeled them just that. They all still got bullied. The label is exactly what does it. Without a label, that kid is not deemed as someone different and usually are not picked on.
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I completely disagree. You really don't think the other kids knew you were deaf before you got pulled out for services? No way. Kids know who is smart and who isn't, who is struggling and who isn't, who is "weird" and who isn't. They don't look around and see who gets pulled for services and say "Aha, we'll pick on them". They do it because those are the kids who don't fit into their very narrow version of "normal". If there was no special ed, it would be the same kids who were treated badly.
 
shel90 said:
That's why I said "maybe" ...I meant to add a question mark to that, not a period. My mistake.

If you think it is ok that's your right but let us be entitled to our opinions and feelings about it instead of arguing about it.
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As a teacher of the deaf, you would be without a job if there was no special ed and all Deaf schools would be closed.
 
faire_jour said:
I completely disagree. You really don't think the other kids knew you were deaf before you got pulled out for services? No way. Kids know who is smart and who isn't, who is struggling and who isn't, who is "weird" and who isn't. They don't look around and see who gets pulled for services and say "Aha, we'll pick on them". They do it because those are the kids who don't fit into their very narrow version of "normal". If there was no special ed, it would be the same kids who were treated badly.
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I agree to a point but I also agree with AlleyCat...the label "special ed" does call attention to a child. What about a child with LD? If he/she is labeled as special ed, then the other kids will know there is somthing "wrong" with him. Kids are not stupid. They know that special ed means there is something wrong with the kids labeled.
 
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