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Foxrac · 07-01-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

Nothing wrong with Mac OS X for businesses either. I've seen some Macs in businesses. Even one of Toyota service dept has Macs.

Why people prefer PC for business because PCs are so cheap to buy but in long run, it costs money to fix.

My work at Enterprise uses PC with Windows with CRT monitors and it's kind of slow because it's running off a server spread to a bunch of networking PCs with no cpu. I believe it's Windows server OS.

I means most businesses are prefer with Windows, it's not only because of cheap, also it does offers alot of thing that meet their needs and different preference.

Mac is popular for graphic design (not gaming design unless written in Mac or other consoles), some film companies, some education and several businesses, I can't think about more because too many place use Windows.

Foxrac · 07-01-2009, 02:26 PM

I'm not pro-Windows users but I was just point about reason of many businesses prefer Windows.

I do prefer Mac over Windows for general, except for games, however I'm really don't care about what kind of OS that would use, just make sure if it is stable and speedy.

I still have MacBook Pro and will sell soon or trade-in via one Mac website to get new unibody MacBook Pro because I dislike old MacBook Pro design due bent in DVD player, LCD hinge issue and defective graphic card, it has been replace at once.

cdaigle430 · 07-09-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

Are you able to use it and hacking something into porn?

Okay?

cdaigle430 · 07-09-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

There are too many idiot out there don't know how to use Linux.

So, Dumb win. I know I say that so crud but hey, it's honestly.

Wow,
It gigures, only a linux fan would say something stupid like that. I'm a professional ITperson and I support both linux and Windows, have been doing so for 12 years now for one of the largest banks in North America, certified to support both. As a professional I take the Windows operating system over linux anyday. I can easily support 140 Windows server 2000, 2003 and 2008-they give my very little trouble versus 20 linux machines that need constant tweeking. So I'm an idiot for preffering something that works versus something that clearly is fad? LMAO....

cdaigle430 · 07-09-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Thats myth!

Linux and Unix use by plenty of business, much more than you realize!

Most business prefer Linux or Unix because of cost, the M$, if want set up M$ ICS server, the license cost easily over $1,600 just for one machine alone! While Linux cost zero.

Since Linux and Unix is open source, meaning you CAN re-write the source, you can turn this OS to anything you want. Once the source is re-written, most virus programs can not attack the computer.

Plus Linux is now getting much friendlier, have you seen Kubuntu 9.0 yet? It blew my head already.

This is just so funny, the OS may be cheaper or free but you have to hire alot more people to support them. The reason they are less susceptable to virus is a myth. They are just attacked less because they are not as popular as Windows.

cdaigle430 · 07-09-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SnAzZyStyLe2002

*yawn*

I can get it for free through my university's MSDNAA program. That's how I got Windows, Windows Server, Office, and enterprise software, all free - no charge for me.

*points and laughs at those who pays*

HA HA,
Once you graduate, quit, leave or whatever it is you do in the MSDNAA program you have to stop using all of them. "points and laughs right back at you"

Foxrac · 07-09-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Linux has changed alot and much much better! I love Kubuntu 9.0, it is almost as good as windows! Alot easier now. And soon or later it will be alot easier than Micor$oft windows!

I use Fedora 11 for my ASUS notebook and it work like flawlessly.

It does include WiFi and graphic card drivers.

I had tried Ubuntu 8.04 and too quite complicated but I will try 9.04 in later.

Nathan · 07-09-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cdaigle430

HA HA,
Once you graduate, quit, leave or whatever it is you do in the MSDNAA program you have to stop using all of them. "points and laughs right back at you"

The Highlander · 07-09-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cdaigle430

This is just so funny, the OS may be cheaper or free but you have to hire alot more people to support them. The reason they are less susceptable to virus is a myth. They are just attacked less because they are not as popular as Windows.

Only real IT for many years will know about Linux vs Windows.

I am agreed with you.

purplecatty · 07-12-2009, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

Only real IT for many years will know about Linux vs Windows.

I am agreed with you.

Linux have few weakness that Hacker can hack by creating new User name and Password then get in. It is still in development stage and constantly improving. What more do you know? I'm sure AD Moderator will tell you that their Tuxbox server been hacked or infected several times if I can remember what they mentioned on posting last year..

IMHO, it's much secured to have password request when trying to enter program that require Administrator usage. I don't mind typing up password and log in when requesting for Security Update when it popped up or adjust screensaver ect.. I don't know what more if Hacker can gain access and wreck my Ubuntu

Right?

Catty

Grummer · 07-12-2009, 07:52 AM

Windows 7 should be grouse

SnAzZyStyLe2002 · 09-25-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cdaigle430

HA HA,
Once you graduate, quit, leave or whatever it is you do in the MSDNAA program you have to stop using all of them. "points and laughs right back at you"

Nah.

Nice try. Once I have the software activated and I have made backup copies of the downloaded ISO files ..... oops!

You have been outsmarted by me again. So there.

And oh, FYI, a friend told me (with validated evidence) that he can still access his university's MSDNAA account - and he graduated from college 2 years ago!

*double points and double laughs at ya*

Got any more to outsmart me, dumbass? 'Kthxbye.

Foxrac · 09-25-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SnAzZyStyLe2002

Nah.

Nice try. Once I have the software activated and I have made backup copies of the downloaded ISO files ..... oops!

You have been outsmarted by me again. So there.

And oh, FYI, a friend told me (with validated evidence) that he can still access his university's MSDNAA account - and he graduated from college 2 years ago!

*double points and double laughs at ya*

Got any more to outsmart me, dumbass? 'Kthxbye.

I could careless about you got free stuff so you still have no luck as us does.

XBGMER · 09-25-2009, 03:20 AM

I really like win seven os than XP or VISTA.. so Oct 22, i cant wait to pick copied window7 up at mail for free.

For Lunix is still sucks, there is no way programs include games install on lunix/ Ubuntu! many developers wont make programs for lunix/ Ubuntu. no wonder, Ubuntu is freeeeeee, no charge.. I did gave a try it on my pc. I realized that Ubuntu really become dull and bored as fast in few days because programs cant install. I ended up uninstall it from my pc. I have seen my friends had lunix/ Ubuntu running their pc and ended up to crash their pc. and it mess with window like got death blue screen.

I stick the OEM window os for an eternal life! Because I AM A PC.

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Jiro · 09-25-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cdaigle430

This is just so funny, the OS may be cheaper or free but you have to hire alot more people to support them. The reason they are less susceptable to virus is a myth. They are just attacked less because they are not as popular as Windows.

wrong. they attacked less because:

1. every linux OS is not the same
2. every linux OS is configured differently
3. every linux OS with security hole is patched up very quickly whereas it takes months for security patch for windows

Jiro · 09-25-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cdaigle430

Wow,
It gigures, only a linux fan would say something stupid like that. I'm a professional ITperson and I support both linux and Windows, have been doing so for 12 years now for one of the largest banks in North America, certified to support both. As a professional I take the Windows operating system over linux anyday. I can easily support 140 Windows server 2000, 2003 and 2008-they give my very little trouble versus 20 linux machines that need constant tweeking. So I'm an idiot for preffering something that works versus something that clearly is fad? LMAO....

strange. My friend is the network security and IT administrator for university and major financial firm. he picks Linux/MacOS over windows anytime, anywhere. He single-handedly replaced entire university's IT infrastructure (windows-based) with linux OS. He can easily configure the network & server to anything he likes.... something that you cannot do in Windows-based environment.

YMMV

Jiro · 09-25-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cdaigle430

HA HA,
Once you graduate, quit, leave or whatever it is you do in the MSDNAA program you have to stop using all of them. "points and laughs right back at you"

not at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnAzZyStyLe2002

Nah.

Nice try. Once I have the software activated and I have made backup copies of the downloaded ISO files ..... oops!

You have been outsmarted by me again. So there.

And oh, FYI, a friend told me (with validated evidence) that he can still access his university's MSDNAA account - and he graduated from college 2 years ago!

*double points and double laughs at ya*

Got any more to outsmart me, dumbass? 'Kthxbye.

same here! I graduated and I was able to access into Microsoft page for a year. I got everything I needed.

sequoias · 09-26-2009, 12:49 AM

I dare Microsoft to make a PC computer and build Windows OS from the ground up and kill all of the PC clones out there....that's the only way to make things run smoothly. Apple is one of the major companies in the world that makes the OS and makes computers which is why they generally run smoothly with less headaches.

Foxrac · 09-26-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by XBGMER

I really like win seven os than XP or VISTA.. so Oct 22, i cant wait to pick copied window7 up at mail for free.

For Lunix is still sucks, there is no way programs include games install on lunix/ Ubuntu! many developers wont make programs for lunix/ Ubuntu. no wonder, Ubuntu is freeeeeee, no charge.. I did gave a try it on my pc. I realized that Ubuntu really become dull and bored as fast in few days because programs cant install. I ended up uninstall it from my pc. I have seen my friends had lunix/ Ubuntu running their pc and ended up to crash their pc. and it mess with window like got death blue screen.

I stick the OEM window os for an eternal life! Because I AM A PC.

Well, I do understand about your frustration with Linux OS and you just need someone to help you with Linux like I did, I was very frustrated with Linux at first place and GUI seems not too shine, unlike Mac OS X and Vista, it is more like XP with dull background so you can custom the background.

There's many softwares are already support on Linux for free so you have look on online, none of Linux software are in retail store, it is very different from Windows or Mac OS X.

I can't blame you for remove the Linux but I believe that Nathan can help you if you are interest in.

Linux and Mac are part of PC.

Foxrac · 09-26-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

not at all.

same here! I graduated and I was able to access into Microsoft page for a year. I got everything I needed.

It's not big deal because I will be college student in Jan 2010.

Keiro · 09-26-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

strange. My friend is the network security and IT administrator for university and major financial firm. he picks Linux/MacOS over windows anytime, anywhere. He single-handedly replaced entire university's IT infrastructure (windows-based) with linux OS. He can easily configure the network & server to anything he likes.... something that you cannot do in Windows-based environment.

YMMV

Yup. My web-hosting company that I own and run all run on Linux derivatives.

All web-hosting servers are CentOS, with cPanel and Fantastico installed on them and security is hardened and much more secure. You don't get SSH without being in a jailed environment. I also get notifications of anyone attempting to break into the server after they're automatically blocked.

All other servers that DON'T run web-hosting services, run Ubuntu Server Edition, heavily modified and hardened against common and not so common exploits, and also automatically e-mail me on any attempts to break into the server with whatever methods.

Tell me if Windows can do the same thing as I just said. Tell me that Windows can e-mail you on it detecting someone trying to attack it and take over the machine.

As for the home environment, again, I use Ubuntu Server Edition for media server, NAS server functionality and some other stuff.

While just one computer has Windows 7 RTM from the MSDN Technet pro membership I've had for years. And that computer is my computer and is heavily secured as much as possible. (I'm pretty sure it's the only computer on the internal network that's going to come close to being as secure as the linux servers we use in our datacenters.)

Christer · 09-28-2009, 11:47 PM

I can't buy Windows 7 next month, bills come first. I will buy Windows 7 next year.

Chevy57 · 09-30-2009, 06:20 PM

OEM version of Windows 7 is cheaper price than full version.

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Newegg is offering the OEM Home Premium version of Windows 7 for only $99.99, whereas the full version is currently retailing for $199.99. OEM versions of Windows 7 Professional are available for just $134.99, which is a massive $165 cheaper than the $299.99 retail version, and $5 cheaper than what Vista's Professional OEM version would have set you back. Finally, Windows 7 Ultimate is priced at $174.99, making for a $145 saving over the retail version.

Newegg.com - Software,Software,Operating Systems,Pre-order / Backorder

I think that might buy MS Windows 7 Professional OEM. Is that good?

Jiro · 09-30-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

OEM version of Windows 7 is cheaper price than full version.

Newegg.com - Software,Software,Operating Systems,Pre-order / Backorder

I think that might buy MS Windows 7 Professional OEM. Is that good?

why not? I will buy it too unless my work's handing it out for free. wow.... it'd be first time I've paid for OS since Win 95 came out

Sosie · 09-30-2009, 06:32 PM

I read somewhere to say that Window 7 doesn't need to be upgrading...
Wasn't I mistaken?

Chevy57 · 09-30-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

why not? I will buy it too unless my work's handing it out for free. wow.... it'd be first time I've paid for OS since Win 95 came out

I can got free updated windows 7 software when had purchased new Dell desktop computer last summer. I need other Windows 7 Professional OEM for my HP notebook which includes MS Vista Home Premium. I won't want to update Windows 7 Home Premium.

webexplorer · 09-30-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

I can got free updated windows 7 software when had purchased new Dell desktop computer last summer. I need other Windows 7 Professional OEM for my HP notebook which includes MS Vista Home Premium. I won't want to update Windows 7 Home Premium.

Do you think that you would use your Dell's Windows 7 DVD installer on your HP notebook?

Chevy57 · 09-30-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by webexplorer

Do you think that you would use your Dell's Windows 7 DVD installer on your HP notebook?

I already registered to receive upgrade to windows 7 in few months ago. I will wait to get it on date of Oct 22 or later???

Chevy57 · 09-30-2009, 08:11 PM

I have both of reinstallation CD of MS Windows XP Pro and reinstallation DVD of Windows Vista Business for my new Dell desktop computer. I now use XP Pro operation. Should I re install Vista software into it before installing upgrade Windows 7?

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Foxrac DOMESTIC DISSENT HUNTER Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 18,171	I'm not pro-Windows users but I was just point about reason of many businesses prefer Windows. I do prefer Mac over Windows for general, except for games, however I'm really don't care about what kind of OS that would use, just make sure if it is stable and speedy. I still have MacBook Pro and will sell soon or trade-in via one Mac website to get new unibody MacBook Pro because I dislike old MacBook Pro design due bent in DVD player, LCD hinge issue and defective graphic card, it has been replace at once. __________________

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XBGMER Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,826	I really like win seven os than XP or VISTA.. so Oct 22, i cant wait to pick copied window7 up at mail for free. For Lunix is still sucks, there is no way programs include games install on lunix/ Ubuntu! many developers wont make programs for lunix/ Ubuntu. no wonder, Ubuntu is freeeeeee, no charge.. I did gave a try it on my pc. I realized that Ubuntu really become dull and bored as fast in few days because programs cant install. I ended up uninstall it from my pc. I have seen my friends had lunix/ Ubuntu running their pc and ended up to crash their pc. and it mess with window like got death blue screen. I stick the OEM window os for an eternal life! Because I AM A PC. __________________

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sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: A little trip to the extraordinary. Posts: 16,296	I dare Microsoft to make a PC computer and build Windows OS from the ground up and kill all of the PC clones out there....that's the only way to make things run smoothly. Apple is one of the major companies in the world that makes the OS and makes computers which is why they generally run smoothly with less headaches.

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