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LED bulbs hit 100 watts as federal ban looms

Originally printed at LED bulbs hit 100 watts as federal ban looms | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News | Consumer News
By PETER SVENSSON AP Technology Writer May 16, 2011

NEW YORK (AP) - Two leading makers of lighting products are showcasing LED bulbs that are bright enough to replace energy-guzzling 100-watt light bulbs set to disappear from stores in January.

Their demonstrations at the LightFair trade show in Philadelphia this week mean that brighter LED bulbs will likely go on sale next year, but after a government ban takes effect.

The new bulbs will also be expensive - about $50 each - so the development may not prevent consumers from hoarding traditional bulbs.

The technology in traditional "incandescent" bulbs is more than a century old. Such bulbs waste most of the electricity that feeds them, turning it into heat. The 100-watt bulb, in particular, produces so much heat that it's used in Hasbro's Easy-Bake Oven.

To encourage energy efficiency, Congress passed a law in 2007 mandating that bulbs producing 100 watts worth of light meet certain efficiency goals, starting in 2012. Conventional light bulbs don't meet those goals, so the law will prohibit making or importing them. The same rule will start apply to remaining bulbs 40 watts and above in 2014. Since January, California has already banned stores from restocking 100-watt incandescent bulbs.

Creating good alternatives to the light bulb has been more difficult than expected, especially for the very bright 100-watt bulbs. Part of the problem is that these new bulbs have to fit into lamps and ceiling fixtures designed for older technology.

Compact fluorescents are the most obvious replacement, but they have drawbacks. They contain a small amount of toxic mercury vapor, which is released if they break or are improperly thrown away. They last longer than traditional bulbs but not as long as LEDs. Brighter models are bulky and may not fit in existing fixtures.

Another new lighting technology, organic light-emitting diodes, or OLEDs, has had problems reaching mass production. OLEDs are glowing sheets or tiles, rather than pinprick light sources, as LEDs are. They're used as vibrant color screens for smartphones, particularly from Samsung Electronics Co.

But making OLEDs that are big, bright, cheap and long-lasting enough for use as light sources has proved difficult, in part because they use chemicals that are sensitive to oxygen and spoil unless sealed very carefully.

Acuity Brands Inc., an Atlanta-based maker of light fixtures, will be showing some OLED panels at the show. They will go on sale next year, but the price will likely make them technology showpieces rather than candidates for everyday lighting.

LEDs are efficient, durable and produced in great quantities, but they're still expensive. An LED bulb can contain a dozen light-emitting diodes, or tiny semiconductor chips, which cost about $1 each.

The big problem with LEDs is that although they don't produce as much heat as incandescent bulbs, the heat they do create shortens the lifespan and reduces the efficiency of the chips. Cramming a dozen chips together in a tight bulb-shaped package that fits in today's lamps and sockets makes the heat problem worse. The brighter the bulb, the bigger the problem is.

The most powerful pear-shaped LED bulbs in stores today - the kind that fits existing lamps - produce light equivalent to a 60-watt bulb, though there are more powerful ones for directional or flood lighting.

Osram Sylvania, a unit of Germany's Siemens AG, said it has overcome the heat problem and will be showing a pear-shaped 100-watt-equivalent LED bulb this week. It doesn't have a firm launch date, but it usually shows products about a year before they hit store shelves.

Lighting Sciences Group Corp., a Satellite Beach, Fla.-based company that specializes in LED lighting, will be showing several 100-watt-equivalent prototypes, including some that solve the problem of cooling the LEDs by using microscopic devices that move air over the chips, like miniature fans.

Before the 100-watters, there will be 75-watters on the shelves this year. Osram Sylvania will be selling them at Lowe's starting in July. Royal Philips Electronics NV, the world's biggest lighting maker, will have them in stores late this year for $40 to $45.

However, 60-watt bulbs are the big prize, since they're the most common. There are 425 million incandescent light bulbs in the 60-watt range in use in the U.S. today, said Zia Eftekhar, the head of Philips' North American lighting division. The energy savings that could be realized by replacing them with 10-watt LED bulbs is staggering.

To stimulate LED development, the federal government has instituted a $10 million "L Prize" for an energy-efficient replacement for the 60-watt bulb. Philips is so far the only entrant in testing, and Eftekhar expects the company to win it soon. But Lighting Sciences Group plans its own entry, which it will demonstrate at the trade show.

Philips has been selling a 60-watt-equivalent bulb at Home Depot since December that's quite similar to the one submitted to the contest. But it's slightly dimmer, consumes 2 watts too much power and costs $40, whereas the L Prize target is $22. Sylvania sells a similar LED bulb at Lowe's, also for $40.

However, LED prices are coming down quickly. The DoE expects a 60-watt equivalent LED bulb to cost $10 by 2015, putting them within striking range of the price of a compact fluorescent bulb.

Bob Karlicek, the director of the Smart Lighting Research Center at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y., thinks that price is achievable.

But, he said, "it's not necessarily clear to people in the lighting industry that LED chips were ever meant to go into a bulb."

What's really needed, he said, is a new approach to lighting - new fixtures and lamps that spread out the LEDs, avoiding the heat problem.


LED bulbs hit 100 watts as federal ban looms | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News | Consumer News
 
Too expensive to replace. Wait for a few years. It's like buying a $2,000 blu ray player when it first came out, now they're cheap to buy.
 
Too expensive to replace. Wait for a few years. It's like buying a $2,000 blu ray player when it first came out, now they're cheap to buy.
Just wait in the dark. :lol:
 
lol, no need because you can still use CCFL for now until LED becomes more affordable in few years.
CCFL's don't work for every lighting situation.
 
$50 for a light bulb...cannot afford that right now. We used 75-60 watt light bulbs for a long time....I was getting so many headaches (bright lights), so I switched to 40-watt bulbs. It made a difference. Sky-lites are great too. I remember when I was working at a newspaper, the bright lights gave me blood-shot eyes and headaches. CRT glasses helped for awhile..then I had to wear a visor. Even when driving at night, headlights actually almost blind me, so I don't drive much at night.
 
I have LED bulb place it for my bathroom, it's nice dim, much comfortable to go bathroom, shower in dark without pitch black. Cost just just much as $15 at amazon.com
 
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lol, no need because you can still use CCFL for now until LED becomes more affordable in few years.
CCFL's don't work for every lighting situation.

Yea agreed. Some are too small for ccf lighting solutions. Led would be a better replacement in other areas.
 
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Yea agreed. Some are too small for ccf lighting solutions. Led would be a better replacement in other areas.
Also, bulbs for timers, motion sensors, dimmers, instant on, etc.
 
CCFL's don't work for every lighting situation.

then buy a lot of incandescent bulbs before they are phase out so you can buy LED at cheaper price in next few years.
 
Also, bulbs for timers, motion sensors, dimmers, instant on, etc.

Oh yup, I remember that and LED is best replacement for all situations that you stated above.
 
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Yea agreed. Some are too small for ccf lighting solutions. Led would be a better replacement in other areas.
Also, bulbs for timers, motion sensors, dimmers, instant on, etc.

Yea that too. I wonder what happens when the inscandent bulbs get banned. I heard some customers had to buy a shopping cart load of them for back up since they will no longer sell them.
 
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Yea that too. I wonder what happens when the inscandent bulbs get banned. I heard some customers had to buy a shopping cart load of them for back up since they will no longer sell them.

I believe that deaf customers would buy lots of incandescent light bulbs for phone and doorbell signalers and wake-up clocks. I have CCL bulbs and sonic alerts signalers work with them but bulb is slow warm up to be flashing. It won't work to be flashing with receiver someday. LED bulb works signaler???
 
I believe that deaf customers would buy lots of incandescent light bulbs for phone and doorbell signalers and wake-up clocks. I have CCL bulbs and sonic alerts signalers work with them but bulb is slow warm up to be flashing. It won't work to be flashing with receiver someday. LED bulb works signaler???

I bet those deaf customers who buy many of them sell it to make profit for deaf community who need them. There are fast light up CCL bulbs, it will light up as fast you switch it on. Altho, CCL bulbs are not good for flashing repeatly and it will shorten its lifespan.
 
They won't be that expensive for long. People need to see it in a different light. These light bulbs are designed to last much, much longer than incandescent light bulbs and they will cost you far, far less in the long run.

Basically, it should be perceived as an investment to save money.
 
I have LED bulb place it for my bathroom, it's nice dim, much comfortable to go bathroom, shower in dark without pitch black. Cost just just much as $15 at amazon.com
I hope your aim is good. ;)
 
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