Sighhhhh, Five Year Old Cuffed

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http://news.tbo.com/news/MGBFR3AVF6E.html
Dang.
Apparently a five-year-old-girl had a tantrum in school and they had to call in the SWAT team, the Marines, a squadron of B-52 bombers, etcetera.
What the HELL is wrong with us, that we cannot handle a widdle girl???
 
Link fixed.
And I was being sarcastic about the manpower "required."
 
Man, this is insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazy:

It noted that she is 5 years old yet she is 4 5 and weighs 60 lbs????
 
Good grief. The little girl struck the teacher, and the fully grown woman ran crying to the police for help? :/ Surely the girl is not strong enough to hurt an adult....sheesh!
 
Well, calling the police was smart. If the teacher had to use force to calm the girl down, the girl and/or the mother would raise the red flag that the teacher was "abusing" her. I think that was smart of the police to handcuff her. She needs to learn that she has to listen to people in authority. Maybe her mother raised her bad.
 
Beowulf said:
http://news.tbo.com/news/MGBFR3AVF6E.html
Dang.
Apparently a five-year-old-girl had a tantrum in school and they had to call in the SWAT team, the Marines, a squadron of B-52 bombers, etcetera.
What the HELL is wrong with us, that we cannot handle a widdle girl???
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That is totally insane and so retarded...

In 2 - 5 years later, the headline will say: DRUG MANDATE FOR ALL KIDS IN AMERICA

I wouldn't be surprised.

Edit: As a doctor-student, I got this feeling that she is on poor diet. It is common factor in violent children and their aggressive behaviors.

Addition: I want to add this quote: It takes a society to create violent children. It will take a society to heal the children who have violent thoughts and behaviors while at the same time working very hard to teach children and each other that violence is neither funny or powerful or useful.
 
RickL66 said:
Well, calling the police was smart. If the teacher had to use force to calm the girl down, the girl and/or the mother would raise the red flag that the teacher was "abusing" her. I think that was smart of the police to handcuff her. She needs to learn that she has to listen to people in authority. Maybe her mother raised her bad.
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Maybe..
I agree that we are so conditioned today to act in a common-sense manner for fear of "red flags" and lawsuits, but I find it sad that we cannot handle a screaming five year old who "does not respect authority." It is getting drilled into our heads every single day that if you cannot reason with a child perhaps drugged with federally mandated drugs, then call in the troops,
I for one find this frightening.
I have many times picked up screaming five year olds and eventually calmed them down. That is the natural way.
Calling in the troops is not.
 
Toonces said:
Good grief. The little girl struck the teacher, and the fully grown woman ran crying to the police for help? :/ Surely the girl is not strong enough to hurt an adult....sheesh!
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You'll be quite surprised at the damages a 60 pound child can do to an adult. 60 pounds isn't exactly light to begin with, and 4-foot-5 may seem short to you.

But it surely won't stop the child from causing some harm to an adult.

``To think we would consider charging a child of that age with a crime is almost comical,'' said Bruce Bartlett, chief assistant state attorney. Di Benedetto, 31, was disappointed charges were not filed because it was the third time the girl had behaved violently, the police report says. Di Benedetto declined to comment Thursday.
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Another teacher was called to help, but the girl kicked her in the shins, hit her in the arm, and tried to scratch her, the report says. She calmed down after 25 minutes, the report says, but once she was in Di Benedetto's office, she started throwing things again and struck Di Benedetto three times, in the arms and stomach. Then police were called.
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Obviously this girl need some professional help since she lack the discipline to control herself. Don't expect a teacher to put up with the physical and verbal abuse more than 3 times from the very same student.

Bewulf, it's possible that this teacher may had tried to get the little girl to calm down on many attempts only to find that it was unsuccessful.

She first was restrained with steel, standard-issue handcuffs but slipped out of those, he said. She then was bound with plastic flexible cuffs but continued to struggle, kicking at officers as they walked her out of the school to a squad car, Proffitt said.

She was put in the back of the cruiser but continued kicking one officer in the arms and legs, so another set of handcuffs was used to restrain her legs, a police report says.
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She even tried to do some harm to the cops. Yet the mother is upset over the fact that she was handcuffed? The mother is sending the wrong message to her daughter. The daughter should be disciplined. Hello?

Where's the concern of her violent behaviours? If one teacher had "restrained" her onto the floor, the mother would had panicked and called a lawyer to set up a multi-million dollars lawsuit rather than panicking about her daughter's behaviour.

My friends, that is why we have to resort to calling the cops because the parents won't listen to the concerns coming from the teachers. It's a wake-up call for the parents to start disciplining their children and listen to what the teachers has to say about their children.

Don't expect the teachers to keep putting up with it while the parents aren't willing to listen.
 
AMEN!!!! It Takes GOOD parents to raise kids, evidently her mother isn't good parent!
If you look at the movie "Lean on me". I am all in for Barney Clark!!! You see, how these bitch woman who thinks Barney Clark don't have right to be virgously disciplined kids, and threw out "Bad Students" You see, that bitch did good damage to East High just because she thinks all kids deserve to do whatever they want, even if this means distrubing other student's desire to learn and excel! Whats wrong in this picture? Anyway, Barney Clark himself proved that with strigent discipline, it can help rotten kids turn into model kids! I rather have strict discipline than to let kids go loose and hurt us back in future by spreading gangs, and other junkie way of life.


Banjo said:
You'll be quite surprised at the damages a 60 pound child can do to an adult. 60 pounds isn't exactly light to begin with, and 4-foot-5 may seem short to you.

But it surely won't stop the child from causing some harm to an adult.





Obviously this girl need some professional help since she lack the discipline to control herself. Don't expect a teacher to put up with the physical and verbal abuse more than 3 times from the very same student.

Bewulf, it's possible that this teacher may had tried to get the little girl to calm down on many attempts only to find that it was unsuccessful.



She even tried to do some harm to the cops. Yet the mother is upset over the fact that she was handcuffed? The mother is sending the wrong message to her daughter. The daughter should be disciplined. Hello?

Where's the concern of her violent behaviours? If one teacher had "restrained" her onto the floor, the mother would had panicked and called a lawyer to set up a multi-million dollars lawsuit rather than panicking about her daughter's behaviour.

My friends, that is why we have to resort to calling the cops because the parents won't listen to the concerns coming from the teachers. It's a wake-up call for the parents to start disciplining their children and listen to what the teachers has to say about their children.

Don't expect the teachers to keep putting up with it while the parents aren't willing to listen.
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Dang, Banjo, this is a real Revelation.
Didn't know you were scared of five year olds.
 
this is one of the gayest news I've ever heard...

and it was already the third time that a kid turned violent and got herself turned to the police again? then she isn't in the right place.

a public (or private) school isn't a good choice for her if she won't even stop being violent towards other people. I believe she should be sent to a special metal care where they give her lots of treatments to control her temper and stuff...so I dunno.

I feel sorry for that kid, and it's proably possible that she was raised inapporiately from a parent so it's not the kid that should be arrested...it's the parent that should be arrested.
 
Toonces said:
Good grief. The little girl struck the teacher, and the fully grown woman ran crying to the police for help? :/ Surely the girl is not strong enough to hurt an adult....sheesh!
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Just remember it's possible that a kid at an age like this with such strength can pull a black eye at an fully grown adult.
 
Beowulf said:
Dang, Banjo, this is a real Revelation.
Didn't know you were scared of five year olds.
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Scared?

No, but I wouldn't like a job where I'm not allowed to defend myself. The children are more precious and cannot be thought of committing such nasty deeds. That's how the government and parents view them, while they think the teachers deserve to get the boot for giving a child a week worth of detentions.

Some of you forgot about the teacher, how tall was she and what did she weigh at? Short teachers do face difficulties when they are trying to control 4'5 tall children who weigh at 60 pounds. The fact here is, the student was out of control. Even in the office. How do you expect the teachers to stop her if they don't have the rights to defend themselves, and that they would never get a teaching job again in the state.

How can they stop the girl?

They would have to restrain her, just like the cops did. The cops even had to handcuff her legs. Obviously it wasn't just the teacher who had trouble trying to deal with the student, the cops faced the same problem too. But if the teacher had restrained the child... she'll get the pink slip. Politics has corrupted the schools big time. Nowdays, teachers don't know what to do because of all of the silly laws regarding the children.

Knowing America. Why bother teaching if the parents are sue-happy? It's not worth teaching if the parents aren't willing to listen. A teacher is not the same as being a parent, in a classroom, you have to take care of around 20 to 30 children at once with far less rights compared to being a parent.

A teacher can't do anything except send the child to the office or to the detention room. Today, even a suspension can spark up a lawsuit.

Mind you, I was perfectly capable of causing a lot of pain to an adult without being restrained, even when I was just barely 4. Yes, I was a problem child back then. My father even had to restrain me and still got bruises. My father was a strong person who weighed at 180 pounds with some good muscles. Yet he had difficulties trying to control me.

Of course, I turned into a great student. But that was because I was heavily disciplined.

Yet people think 5 year old children are harmless?

(scoff)
 
At first glance at this, I thought "Oh, gosh! How terrible it is to do that to a five year old." But, you have to consider that the child might have some kind of conduct disorder that made her hard to control. It takes extraordinary measures to control children like these, and I don't think the teacher was necessarily out of line. I think you need to consider all the facts before you jump up and say how wrong the teacher was. Truth is, we don't know all of it. We only know what we read. Keep that in mind.
 
Agreed! I am parent myself, I hold my son personally responsible. I believe that school can't do all of the dirty work for me. I am my son's first teacher, and its my duty to teach the wonderful world of discipline. It PAYS to be disciplined than to spoil him rotten. If I can't discipline my son, then I don't deserve to have my son around. This applies to that little girl's mom. Her mom demostrated that she refused to do anything about it, and expecting outside help at 100%. So, do she deserve to keep custody of her daughter? I don't think so.

Steel said:
I feel sorry for that kid, and it's proably possible that she was raised inapporiately from a parent so it's not the kid that should be arrested...it's the parent that should be arrested.
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There are some very excellent points brought up in this thread....especially in regards to parenting. Many parents today look to the schools to babysit and raise their children while the parents live busy lives (and other reasons). Many parents today don't seem to make it a 'team' effort where they raise their own children and the schools partially educate them. I say partially because I also believe a parents should have a very active role in educating their children.

Something else that is mentioned is liability. We live in a society today where everyone is lawsuit happy, therefore everyone wants to 'punt' the responsibility to somebody else. The school can't discipline a child, otherwise the school could be sued. The school then puts it on the police, relieving themselves of any liability.

I don't condemn the school for calling the police, after all, an assault did occur.

Something else to remember is to look at our recent history. For example, school shootings such as Columbine. After it happened, everyone said 'Look at all the warning signs and nobody did anything'. A child who physically assautls their teachers and/or principles is a 'warning sign' so it gets punted around. When this 5 year old is 15 and in high school and assaults somebody, the victims parents can go after the school because the child has been violent in the past.

Something I see in our police department is parents who are afraid to discipline their own children. For example, I took a call just yesterday for a 9 year old who was 'disrespecting' his mother. Why she saw this as a 911 emergency, I don't understand. She doesn't want to deal with her child so she calls 911 to have to police come and do it. This solves nothing between son and mother, and only makes the son scared of the police. Another officer I work with took a similar call today from a woman about her daughter. We get these calls almost on a daily basis.

None of my foster parents were ever abusive to me, however, none of them were scared to use a belt on occasion when I acted up. It isn't illegal to discipline your kids as long as it isn't abusive....and sometimes a kid does need a whap on the ass.
 
Taylor said:
. It isn't illegal to discipline your kids as long as it isn't abusive....and sometimes a kid does need a whap on the ass.
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I have to agree with Taylor's comment...a whap in the ass does not call for abuse...it is for discipline and shaping a kid's life of what is right and wrong...that what I learned while I was growing up...I don't call my parents abusive...they had their reason for that...it is called " love and caring "
 
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