Phonak Naida
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The link showing availability in UK here:
Speakers Corner - London: Finally got them – Oticon spirit III P
Oticon does not show availability any more on their site, it may have been discontinued:
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Here's more info on name change:
Spirit 3 is an oticon hearing aid, made specifically for the NHS, but they can also be bought privately, under the name 'Sumo DM', and Oticon have assured me, they are absolutely identical hearing aids
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either they are wearing out, or your hearing has changed. I would get a checkup with your audi to see what can be done....good luck!!!!
I am having problems with my old aid which is the digi focus. It keeps turning the volume up and down all day. Talk about annoying. But I love the reviews on the Naidas.
I have medicare would they cover some cost for the aids?
I have medicare would they cover some cost for the aids?
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I used to have a pair of Oticon DigiFocus II super power BTEs and had nothing but trouble with them. Medicare should cover some of the cost of repair. It varies state by state, so you may want to check with them or your audi.
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I have acquired a pair of Phonak Naida hearing aids yesterday and they are totally different to what I have been used to for the past 11 years which were the Widex Senso hearing aids. The sounds seem to be quite muted, and not as amplified, for example when I'm driving in my car listening to music, I can't hear myself speak or hear the engine noise! All I can hear are the instruments playing but not the lyrics! If I turn my music up to max, it still sounds the same as if it were on the medium volume!
I get the feeling that these hearing aids have been automatically programmed to remove the background noise and limits the amplification at which I can hear. I can hardly hear myself whistle, I can't hear myself coughing it is all very surreal! But I can hear footsteps, the rustle of paper and birds tweeting outside. When someone speaks to me, their voice seems very electronic like and it sounds as if the hearing aids are trying to suppress this sound and mould it into something that I can easily 'understand'. My audiologist said to give these hearing aids about 3 months to bed-in because I am too used my previous ones.
I just find this all quite uncomfortable, because I find my hearing to be at least 50% worse than before. Also, I can't even use the phone anymore because the hearing aids seems to think it's fit to tone down the sound of the person speaking to me. I get the feeling that these Naida's have been convoluted with some pretty useless technology especially as it seems to enjoy muting out certain sounds. I want to be able to hear everything that I could before, I don't want these Naida's to drown out sounds that it deems necessary.
I'm not finding the experience really enjoyable right now and I still have my old widex in a box upstairs which are tempting me to use again! I'm willing to give these Naida's an extended trial because sooner or later, my older Widex aids will bite the dust and I'll be left in a really tight pickle! This is the perfect time for me to be using these aids as I am currently on a 3 month Summer holiday before I do my Masters degree at the University of Exeter!
Is what I have described an normal experience, and if not, what can you suggest for me to tell the audiologist before I go back to see her on the 8th July? For the record, I'm a 21 year old guy who is suffering a profound level of deafness who has only ever used one pair of digital hearing aids in his life time so maybe that has skewed my experience of the Naidas'. With my previous hearing aids, I have maintained an acceptable level of hearing in order to survive in most aspects of socialising and working in a hearing world. However, with these current hearing aids I'm struggling to even hold a basic conversation with my friends and family!
I get the feeling that these hearing aids have been automatically programmed to remove the background noise and limits the amplification at which I can hear. I can hardly hear myself whistle, I can't hear myself coughing it is all very surreal! But I can hear footsteps, the rustle of paper and birds tweeting outside. When someone speaks to me, their voice seems very electronic like and it sounds as if the hearing aids are trying to suppress this sound and mould it into something that I can easily 'understand'. My audiologist said to give these hearing aids about 3 months to bed-in because I am too used my previous ones.
I just find this all quite uncomfortable, because I find my hearing to be at least 50% worse than before. Also, I can't even use the phone anymore because the hearing aids seems to think it's fit to tone down the sound of the person speaking to me. I get the feeling that these Naida's have been convoluted with some pretty useless technology especially as it seems to enjoy muting out certain sounds. I want to be able to hear everything that I could before, I don't want these Naida's to drown out sounds that it deems necessary.
I'm not finding the experience really enjoyable right now and I still have my old widex in a box upstairs which are tempting me to use again! I'm willing to give these Naida's an extended trial because sooner or later, my older Widex aids will bite the dust and I'll be left in a really tight pickle! This is the perfect time for me to be using these aids as I am currently on a 3 month Summer holiday before I do my Masters degree at the University of Exeter!
Is what I have described an normal experience, and if not, what can you suggest for me to tell the audiologist before I go back to see her on the 8th July? For the record, I'm a 21 year old guy who is suffering a profound level of deafness who has only ever used one pair of digital hearing aids in his life time so maybe that has skewed my experience of the Naidas'. With my previous hearing aids, I have maintained an acceptable level of hearing in order to survive in most aspects of socialising and working in a hearing world. However, with these current hearing aids I'm struggling to even hold a basic conversation with my friends and family!
I had the same experience that you are having.
There is a filter in the ear hooks that contributes to this muting that you are describing. My aid quit on me 4 weeks after getting it and it turned out the filter in the ear hook was the culprit. Even thought I put the aid in a dry aid kit every night the filter was getting to moist and not drying out overnight. My Audi replaced the ear hook with ones without the filter and it has been fine since plus I notice a boost in sounds. Now all of the adjustments I had her make are to strong (Due to the filter) but I'm going to stick it out for a couple of weeks and see her on my Pre Op date.
Yes finally I'm getting the CI in the left ear!!!! July 15th is the Day!!!
Right ear will remain HA until I get comprehension with the CI in the left ear.
Good luck with your new aids it will take several sessions with the Audi to get them where you want them.
There is a filter in the ear hooks that contributes to this muting that you are describing. My aid quit on me 4 weeks after getting it and it turned out the filter in the ear hook was the culprit. Even thought I put the aid in a dry aid kit every night the filter was getting to moist and not drying out overnight. My Audi replaced the ear hook with ones without the filter and it has been fine since plus I notice a boost in sounds. Now all of the adjustments I had her make are to strong (Due to the filter) but I'm going to stick it out for a couple of weeks and see her on my Pre Op date.
Yes finally I'm getting the CI in the left ear!!!! July 15th is the Day!!!
Right ear will remain HA until I get comprehension with the CI in the left ear.
Good luck with your new aids it will take several sessions with the Audi to get them where you want them.
Hi,
I, too, have had my issues with my aids at first. It took me about 5 major and 5 minor (cosmetic program adjustments) adjustments to get the aids where I want them.
Best way to get the aids adjusted properly is write down all the issues you have with the aids, ie. female voices intelligible, male voices dull and hollow, background sounds override voices, etc. The audiologist can make the adjustments via the iPFG programming interface on the computer...and it's easier to make those adjustments if everything is written on paper.
Fozzy: I didn't know those filters in the ear hooks might be an issue there (restricting sounds). I never have figured what the use of the filter was for, as my warbling noise issues were due to the weather/moisture protectors getting too saturated. I don't think I had an issue with water moving from the eardrum to the hearing aid via the tube....
I, too, have had my issues with my aids at first. It took me about 5 major and 5 minor (cosmetic program adjustments) adjustments to get the aids where I want them.
Best way to get the aids adjusted properly is write down all the issues you have with the aids, ie. female voices intelligible, male voices dull and hollow, background sounds override voices, etc. The audiologist can make the adjustments via the iPFG programming interface on the computer...and it's easier to make those adjustments if everything is written on paper.
Fozzy: I didn't know those filters in the ear hooks might be an issue there (restricting sounds). I never have figured what the use of the filter was for, as my warbling noise issues were due to the weather/moisture protectors getting too saturated. I don't think I had an issue with water moving from the eardrum to the hearing aid via the tube....
"I don't think I had an issue with water moving from the eardrum to the hearing aid via the tube.... "
Guess I let off more Steam
The idea of writing down the sound issues is a good one, I send my Audi an email once a week then review with her at the appointment.
Guess I let off more Steam
The idea of writing down the sound issues is a good one, I send my Audi an email once a week then review with her at the appointment.
"I don't think I had an issue with water moving from the eardrum to the hearing aid via the tube.... "
Guess I let off more Steam
The idea of writing down the sound issues is a good one, I send my Audi an email once a week then review with her at the appointment.
I already brought up the issue with my audi. The more sounds that reaches my ear at my stage of profound hearing loss (90-120dB, ski slope), the better of I am. It's even possible that the filters are distorting the sounds somewhat. Any kind of medium that is between a source and destination of a sound has a possibility of being distorted (bounced around).
By the way, we are both from Texas (as I see from your profile), so the heat out there these days is really making us let off steam!!
Then you need to get them reprogrammed! I had the exact same Widex HAs as you and I heard louder/better across the board with the new Naidas! If your audiologist can't correctly program a much more powerful HA to be better than a 10 year old HA, do not buy those but return them! Perhaps youd want to buy an inexpensive Simens HA online for a fraction of the cost. It can be self programmed by adjusting pots accessed by opening a cover.
Agreed. I also had the Sensos for many years, and while I liked the great sound quality they put out, the Naidas are just a far more advanced and powerful device.
Keep trying. I just had a new program session last week that ended up being a step backwards. Now I need to go back in and have old configuration set and go from there. It's an ongoing process.
Keep trying. I just had a new program session last week that ended up being a step backwards. Now I need to go back in and have old configuration set and go from there. It's an ongoing process.
They used it to prevent the moisture from coming from the ear to the hearing aid (severe cases, I suspect) I plan to get them removed unless the sound quality doesn't make a difference....