Obesity= A very serous topic

ravensteve1961

ravensteve1961

New Member
Joined
Oct 28, 2004
Messages
3,916
Reaction score
0
There should be stricter laws against obesity.I think now our government should declare war on obesity. No im not talking about guns,tanks and soldiers im talking about making laws against ingredents in the foods causes obesity. Like sugar should be made against the law and salt should be made against the law.Just like illegal drugs are. I think congress and the senate should make these laws to protect peoples health. Heres what i want done about companies who put illegal ingredents like salt & sugar in the food. An inspector shall inspect radomly foods in stores and resterants. If caught you pay at $100,000 fine as a warning. Second offense $500,000 fine. Third offense $3,000,000 fine. fouth offense government shall close your business down permintly.Heres how this works. An undercover food inspector buys items in store and if if finds any gram of sugar or salt in the lab the inspector and the DEA calls the manager and calls head company youre being fined And theye not done yet. They locate the company who produce the item and issue them a fine. Samething in resterants. Take a sample off their plate put it in the bag and they find any gram of salt or sugar they also face a fine. So this way the local stores,resterants and the food companies can follow the rules or face stiff fines and possibly a reposseson of your company. Thats what i want my congressmen and senators to do. Places like McDonalds and burger king is like food terrorism in my eyes.Its time to do something about obesity. I have seen s documentry about obesity click here supersizeme
 
Raven Steve, what about personal responsability ???

People have a choice to eat these things in moderation or to abuse themselves with too much. Sugar is not evil, it is just a form of carbohydrate. We all need carbohydrates for energy. It occurs naturally in many healthy foods. Even refined sugars can have their place in a well balanced diet. Salt deficiency can cause serious health problems, it is necessary in moderation. It's not what people eat, but how much, and their overall lifestyle. Obesity isn't caused by fast food existing, it is caused by people consuming excessive portions of energy rich foods that far exceed the ammount of energy they are expending in their daily life. That extra energy is stored, as fat, for later use. They need to use the energy they consume, and also what is stored. It's not for the governments to have to stop people putting food in their mouths, it's for people to take care of themselves like healthy responsable people with their own brains. Sheesh! You have a choice to eat some fruit, make a healthy portioned mixed filling sandwich, and grab a low fat yoghurt or to go and buy a big burger, fries and a large shake.

There are also people who have health conditions that cause weight gain, they eat healthy, exercise, and gain weight anyway. Remember not to be too quick to judge, or to assume that anyone who is obese must be a slave to fast food chains, eating nothing but McDonalds all day every day. It's not that simple.

Oh no! Raven Steve wants to fine someone for selling certain foods, huh? Yep, there is sugar in a good wholesome apple, and salt in a healthy low fat piece of fish! What are you going to eat to stay healthy in your restrictive government run world RS? Many very healthy foods contain these things. Many unhealthy things have less. Anyway, I thought you hated governements and authorities checking up on things, by reading some of your posts? Why do you want them to be able to ban essential components of food? Please learn some nutrition, RS. You have an admirable motive, yes that's good, but you oversimplify this too much. Your thinking is dangerous. Just as well, no realistic government will do this!

There are nutrition labels on foods, you can buy books that list that information for all common foods, including unlabeled things like the fruit off the tree in your yard or somthing, you can go on the McDonalds webiste and work out the nutritional content of the meal you're thinking of having, then you can make your own informed decision as to if it's healthy for you to eat that meal or not. It's not up to the government to make every little choice for you that any normal adult should be capable of doing. The information is right there, all you have to do is use it. There's no need to run secret tests, they have to be clearly labeled anyway and are tested very carefully for those labels, or if it's a restaurant they have to be able to provide the ingredients information on any customers request. It's law in most countries, so you can make the right choices yourself! :)

It's great that you want to see people become healthier RS, and it's great that you want to do your part to see that happen... but you would be better off getting a good nutrition book and learning how to eat a balanced diet and setting an example for the people you're worried for with what's on your plate, rather than asking the government to ban things that are also important to a healthy diet, not just used in excess in some treat foods.
 
And what about a person's personal decision to live their life how they want? If you're so anxious to let the government control your life, goto China, North Korea, or some other communist country. Funny how you love to spout off ideas about the government should have these ridiculous powers that fringe upon rights, but then support Republicans. Aren't Republicans the ones who claim to be for small government.
 
HoneyShot said:
There are also people who have health conditions that cause weight gain, they eat healthy, exercise, and gain weight anyway. Remember not to be too quick to judge, or to assume that anyone who is obese must be a slave to fast food chains, eating nothing but McDonalds all day every day. It's not that simple.
Click to expand...

BINGO!!! There are some medicine which actually will cause a person to gain weight.

If one wants to ban certain food, then one should ban smoking, beer, alcohol, wine, etc... I don't think it is realistic. A person is the only person who can decide for himself whether if he wants to eat this or not. So many Americans I know are so picky when it comes to eating, especially foreign food. They wouldn't even eat sushi, (which is healthy), or like Vietnamese or Middle Eastern. The food is delicious and it is great to have the variety in your diet, instead of eating same old food over and over again.
 
*thud* :wtf: Its IMPOSSIBLE to make it a law to ban sugar! Like some post says, its their own personal responsibility to take care of themselves.. some can't help to be obese due to thyroid problems, some just have really really low metabolism that makes them gain, some just eat too much. For those who are obese do need to take action before they health goes down.. ravensteve where did that come from?????
 
without salt our thyriod will be damaged. I would have show u a pix of those people in Asia without salt, but dont have time to search it on pc. We need sugar for baking foods. other wise u want us to be starve to death. I made a whole wheat bread yesterday, and it has to have some sugar to work with yeast. need sugar for many things. dumb thing and u want to put the farmers out of business.
 
...and Just afew years ago a lawyer in califorina wanted to ban oreos since he assumes it has too much surgar in it... :roll: I feel he's violating our rights to eat something, even if it's our fault that we are "abusing" our health, we just need to eat something and don't need to be told of what to eat and what not to eat...geez, I didnt like that. Those people just need to take a chill pill and shut the fuck up about it.

Even McDonald's was forced to remove the largest fries item off the list because it contains too much grease and fat in it...but hello!? what 'bout burger king or Wendy's? and they still do it while McDonald's can't?...something ain't right.
 
There are also people who have health conditions that cause weight gain, they eat healthy, exercise, and gain weight anyway.
Click to expand...
Yes, that's me....I have endrocrine issues (thyroid)
 
OK, I'm not talking about food; what about thyroid problems and pituarity gland problems? What about obesity runs in the family?
 
Steel said:
...and Just afew years ago a lawyer in califorina wanted to ban oreos since he assumes it has too much surgar in it... :roll: I feel he's violating our rights to eat something, even if it's our fault that we are "abusing" our health, we just need to eat something and don't need to be told of what to eat and what not to eat...geez, I didnt like that. Those people just need to take a chill pill and shut the fuck up about it.

Even McDonald's was forced to remove the largest fries item off the list because it contains too much grease and fat in it...but hello!? what 'bout burger king or Wendy's? and they still do it while McDonald's can't?...something ain't right.
Click to expand...

I agree. Raven...you're stupid. A little bit of salt and sugar is good. In fruits, there is sugar that natually grows in them. All foods have some sort of sugar and salt in them. People make personal choices that aren't so healthy. What you're thinking of is having this country become a communist country. It's the fact that people who put too much extra salt or sugar in something in order to sell it is one thing. That's called personal responsibility. They're NOT drugs. You don't get high from it. just stupid.
 
Im Not talking about natural sugar. That is already in fruits im talking about putting it in a can of beans and cerals. Dont put salt in canned foods.Why you think people in russia live longer and more healther than americans? Cause when the old U.S.S.R was the goverment at that time youre not allowed to put stuff in canned foods like sugar n salt. The K.G.B can execute people who put other stuff in foods. Theyre people in china living 90+ year old because of stricter rules in health. Sugar causes diabetes. Salt causes high blood pressure and heart attacks. Besides McDonalds isnt even allowed in china. McDonalds isnt even allowed in north korea nether and if fidel castro finds anyone eatting a big mac in cuba the penalty is death.Plus theres no mc donalds in the middle east nations nether .Here we can change all that.Im saying just make sugar & salt against the law.That means you cant put salt on burgers or fries anymore. I cant put sugar in pepsi ,, coke or dr pepper.Those are the laws id like to see on the books.
 
Raven, that's a really stupid idea you got there. Fruit and vegetables do have a bit of natural salt and sugar, very small traces. Fruits have lot of sweetness in it, they're natural "sugar".

Not everyone in the US obesity is caused by eating, it can be caused by medicine causes u gain weight, runs thru the genes, thyroid, and many other reasons. I have nothing against obese people. They have their choices and they're people, nothing more. The government will laugh at your idea and shred it into the basket.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Im Not talking about natural sugar. That is already in fruits im talking about putting it in a can of beans and cerals. Dont put salt in canned foods.Why you think people in russia live longer and more healther than americans? Cause when the old U.S.S.R was the goverment at that time youre not allowed to put stuff in canned foods like sugar n salt. The K.G.B can execute people who put other stuff in foods. Theyre people in china living 90+ year old because of stricter rules in health. Sugar causes diabetes. Salt causes high blood pressure and heart attacks. Besides McDonalds isnt even allowed in china. McDonalds isnt even allowed in north korea nether and if fidel castro finds anyone eatting a big mac in cuba the penalty is death.Plus theres no mc donalds in the middle east nations nether .Here we can change all that.Im saying just make sugar & salt against the law.That means you cant put salt on burgers or fries anymore. I cant put sugar in pepsi ,, coke or dr pepper.Those are the laws id like to see on the books.
Click to expand...

Have u ever heard of GENES?! obesity also is genetic. Even if someone is taking care of their health and stuff, they can still get fat if it's genetic. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!! :wackit:
 
sequoias explain why people are living longer and healther in socialist nations. And i never seen a fat arab. Only those arabs are in western nations.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Im Not talking about natural sugar. That is already in fruits im talking about putting it in a can of beans and cerals. Dont put salt in canned foods.Why you think people in russia live longer and more healther than americans? Cause when the old U.S.S.R was the goverment at that time youre not allowed to put stuff in canned foods like sugar n salt. The K.G.B can execute people who put other stuff in foods. Theyre people in china living 90+ year old because of stricter rules in health. Sugar causes diabetes. Salt causes high blood pressure and heart attacks. Besides McDonalds isnt even allowed in china. McDonalds isnt even allowed in north korea nether and if fidel castro finds anyone eatting a big mac in cuba the penalty is death.Plus theres no mc donalds in the middle east nations nether .Here we can change all that.Im saying just make sugar & salt against the law.That means you cant put salt on burgers or fries anymore. I cant put sugar in pepsi ,, coke or dr pepper.Those are the laws id like to see on the books.
Click to expand...

Raven, you are wrong. There IS Mcdonalds in China, they're almost all over the world. You need to research more, knock on wood.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
sequoias explain why people are living longer and healther in socialist nations. And i never seen a fat arab. Only those arabs are in western nations.
Click to expand...

there are a lot of fat people in the entire world. if anything, raven, it has a lot to do with personal responsibility and genetics. Arabs and chinese and japanese are fat too although i have to admit there are less fat people than america but that does NOT mean there aren't any. Do your homework! idiot.
 
Then how in the hell they allow an american company in a socialist nation.And get this.GERMANS live healthy too. I dont see a fat german in germany.Besides back during nazi germany adolph hitler didnt like fat people nether.I think its a good idea to declare war on obesity.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Then how in the hell they allow an american company in a socialist nation.And get this.GERMANS live healthy too. I dont see a fat german in germany.Besides back during nazi germany adolph hitler didnt like fat people nether.I think its a good idea to declare war on obesity.
Click to expand...

did your mother feed u crack when you were a baby? There's some fat people in all countries! Some are less obese people than others!
 
Back
Top