Most issue you're concern in political?

Choice one and rant then.

  • HEALTH, live and see bright

    Votes: 10 25.0%
  • EDUCATION, control me to make smart please

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • GUN, fear or not fear?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, more rainbow

    Votes: 4 10.0%
  • ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTION, get out

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • TAX, spend bore me

    Votes: 5 12.5%
  • OTHER, tell me and rant more

    Votes: 12 30.0%

  • Total voters
    40
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What exactly was misleading?

It explains in my 2 years old thread.
http://www.alldeaf.com/general-chat/18485-tax-between-europe-any-countries-world.html

You can look at German Tax System at some links in my thread and social system has nothing do with tax system.

Social system mean is insurances, we work and pay insurances every monthly from wage slip.

Health insurance
pension insurance
Unemployment insursance
Nursing insurance

German Tax system, we work and pay tax every monthly.

Gross tax to Government
solidarity tax to Government
Church tax to church officer

And more taxes issues in my thread...

I will quote some of your post #59 later.
 
you're misled. It's over 600 not 700. And it DO NOTHING with global warming, because these people either cannot afford AC or it broke. And the heat wave cause from the building that made of metal and rock that increase heat.

Read it again as it mention "Urban heat island". Do you understand what it mean? Click and read. :cool:

No, you are wrong.

It's more than 700 people died, that what I stated.
Future Heat Waves Will Be Hotter, Longer, More Frequent

Future Heat Waves Will Be Hotter, Longer, More Frequent

BOULDER, Colorado, August 13, 2004 (ENS) – Heat waves in North America and Europe will become more intense, more frequent and longer lasting during this century, scientists said on Thursday.

A new modeling study shows that an increase in heat absorbing greenhouse gases intensifies an unusual atmospheric circulation pattern already observed during heat waves in Europe and North America.

As the pattern becomes more pronounced, severe heat waves occur in the Mediterranean region and the southern and western United States.

Other parts of France, Germany and the Balkans also become more susceptible to severe heat waves.

Gerald Meehl is a specialist in tropical climate variability and projections of future climate. He plays a key role on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, serving as lead author for both the 1995 and 2000 assessments. (Photo courtesy UCAR)
"It's the extreme weather and climate events that will have some of the most severe impacts on human society as the climate changes," said Gerald Meehl, a senior scientist with the Climate and Global Dynamics Division of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), a federally funded research center in Boulder, Colorado.

Heat waves can kill more people in a shorter time than almost any other climate event.

According to records, 739 people died as a result of Chicago's July 1995 heat wave, and 15,000 Parisians are estimated to have died from heat in August 2003.

For the study Meehl and NCAR colleague Claudia Tebaldi compared present (1961-1990) and future (2080-2099) decades to determine how greenhouse gases and sulfate aerosols might affect future climate in Europe and the United States, focusing on Paris and Chicago.

Heat from the Sun is being trapped close to the planet by a blanket of greenhouse gases. (Photo courtesy NOAA)
Meehl and Tebaldi assumed little policy intervention to slow the buildup of greenhouse gases.

In the model, atmospheric pressure increases even more during heat waves in both regions as carbon dioxide accumulates in the atmosphere.

The researchers note that during the Paris and Chicago heat waves, atmospheric pressure rose to values higher than usual over Lake Michigan and Paris, producing clear skies and prolonged heat.

Health experts say the most severe health impacts during the 1995 Chicago heat wave resulted from the lack of cooling relief several nights in a row.

Parisians take refuge from the summer heat in the Tuileries Gardens. (Photo by Ian Britton courtesy FreeFoto)
In the model, the worst three day heat waves show a rise of more than three degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) in minimum night time temperatures in the western and southern United States and the Mediterranean region of Europe.

The average number of heat waves in the Chicago area increases in the coming century by 25 percent, from 1.66 per year to 2.08.

Chicago's present heat waves last from 5.39 to 8.85 days - future events are predicted to increase to between 8.5 and 9.24 days long.

In Paris, the average number increases 31 percent, from 1.64 heat waves per year to 2.15.

Present day heat waves in Paris persist from 8.33 to 12.69 days. In future decades they are predicted to last between 11.39 and 17.04 days.

"This study provides significant insight into the complex response of global climate to possible future worldwide economic and regulatory policies," said Cliff Jacobs, program director in the National Science Foundation’s division of atmospheric sciences, which funded the research. "The societal implications of this study need to be further explored."

The findings of the study appear in today’s issue of the journal “Science.”
 
Well, I still don't care if they prove that Global Warming are not happening. I always know that we need to keep the enviroment stay as normal to keep us stay alive. I always feel shame on me while driving a car.

Did you actually read the links I provided? It's not saying the planet isn't getting a bit warmer. It has done that in the past. It warms, it cools, and back and forth. The idea they're saying is wrong is that man is causing it, and can stop it.
 
you're misled. It's over 600 not 700. And it DO NOTHING with global warming, because these people either cannot afford AC or it broke. And the heat wave cause from the building that made of metal and rock that increase heat.

Read it again as it mention "Urban heat island". Do you understand what it mean? Click and read. :cool:

Nothing do with Global Warming? Do you know what Global Warming is? Global Warming means the world is getting hotter and hotter. Heat wave have been breaking the record every summer. Highest temperature have been breaking the record too. Global Warming is not funny.

Those people who can't afford for AC or don't have any place that keep them cool would NOT have to get a AC or any place to keep them cool just if we care for Global Warming.

Did you actually read the links I provided? It's not saying the planet isn't getting a bit warmer. It has done that in the past. It warms, it cools, and back and forth. The idea they're saying is wrong is that man is causing it, and can stop it.

Yeah we could stop it.. I really hope.
 
Nothing do with Global Warming? Do you know what Global Warming is? Global Warming means the world is getting hotter and hotter. Heat wave have been breaking the record every summer. Highest temperature have been breaking the record too. Global Warming is not funny.

I prefer limited urban, it will help less warming. I love the ideal that Portland and Seattle have limited grown. More farming to grow awesome green food and breathable.
 
Nothing do with Global Warming? Do you know what Global Warming is? Global Warming means the world is getting hotter and hotter. Heat wave have been breaking the record every summer. Highest temperature have been breaking the record too. Global Warming is not funny.

Those people who can't afford for AC or don't have any place that keep them cool would NOT have to get a AC or any place to keep them cool just if we care for Global Warming.



Yeah we could stop it.. I really hope.

A few points here:

1. We've only been measuring temperature for a couple hundred years. When a record heat wave breaks a record, it's because the record was set at a previous point. We've had hot summers before. You don't look at weather and make claims about geological global warming based on how it is in one location.

This planet warms and cools on its own time scale. Where I sit right now was covered in miles of ice 10,000 years ago.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Climate change 'is the norm'

Those of us who study the pre-human history of the Earth find the current debate over global warming difficult to fathom. Climate changes - this is what it does.

To expect permanent stability in climate patterns displays a fundamental lack of understanding of the complexity and instability of weather.

If the global climate were not getting warmer, it would be getting cooler; stasis is not an option.

This planet is in constant change. 99.9% of all species have become extinct--they've died out. Usually due to changes in the climate. Man has not--yet--because he uses his brain to adapt.

Remember, the global warming people said that hurricanes would be WORSE last year than the year Katrina happened, right? That didn't happen, you'll notice.

You're telling me that scientists who can't tell you the weather next month with any accuracy can tell you how hot or cool it will be in 50 years?

2. We're not going to change the climate. Not even if we try. And if we try, we could bankrupt ourselves.

Since February 16, 2005, the Kyoto Protocol has cost $342,929,370,386 while potentially saving an undetectable 0.003556305 °C by the year 2050. That's 3/1000 of 1 degree by 2050. And it has cost over $342 billion dollars. That's IF you believe the computer models that have no real evidence of being true.

NCPA - Global Warming - Records Show Temperatures Are Cooler Now

I'm 37. I remember as a kid them saying the Earth was cooling.

Human beings have a tendency to take short-term trends and extrapolate them to ominous doomsday scenarios. For example, in 1975, Newsweek warned readers of "profound climatic change" leading to "catastrophic famines" and stated, "The central fact is that after three-quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the Earth's climate seems to be cooling down."

Also: Drought Research at Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University in Palisades, New York

During Medieval times the American West was an even drier climate than the current already arid one. Apparently this very arid climate greatly stressed the social organization of Indian societies at the time, according to archaeologists. Around about the fifteenth century the climate shifted to being much wetter and remained that way for several hundred years, coinciding with the Little Ice Age, a period when climate was cooler than now around the world.

So what caused this?
 
Nothing do with Global Warming? Do you know what Global Warming is? Global Warming means the world is getting hotter and hotter. Heat wave have been breaking the record every summer. Highest temperature have been breaking the record too. Global Warming is not funny.

Those people who can't afford for AC or don't have any place that keep them cool would NOT have to get a AC or any place to keep them cool just if we care for Global Warming.



Yeah we could stop it.. I really hope.

Yup, heatwave is formed from global warming.

I know that some ADers live in house that don't have AC.

It does same with residents in Chicago area don't have AC in their house or apt or even not installed, just some of them, also same goes to Toronto area too.

I bet that in southeast USA will become desertification or even prairie/steppe in 2050 or who knows.

I had took ecology at high school, it's good class to learn about environment.
 
There's a difference between doubting global warming and doubting it's man-made or a significant problem we can deal with.

This planet has warmed and cooled for billions of years before man ever existed.

Here: Scientists respond to Gore's warnings of climate catastrophe



Before you made decisions, see ALL sides of an argument, and all the evidence.

There is more then enough evidence that Globel warming is man made. It's just some people don't want to admit it. :pissed: :Ohno: :tears:

Besides I simply don't trust scientists.
 
There is more then enough evidence that Globel warming is man made. It's just some people don't want to admit it. :pissed: :Ohno: :tears:

Besides I simply don't trust scientists.

So...you don't trust scientists, except those who think that global warming is man made...but not those who say its not. That's not logical.

Do you expect the climate to never change?

And how do you decide which scientists to trust?

And if you say there's enough evidence that global warming is man made, can you explain why it was warmer in the medieval times in north America?
 
Yup, heatwave is formed from global warming.

Heat waves happen every summer. They're NORMAL.

When a heatwave breaks a record set in 1890 it's because it was AS HOT in 1890, you know?


I bet that in southeast USA will become desertification or even prairie/steppe in 2050 or who knows.

It is mostly desert NOW. And has been for centuries.

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Heat waves happen every summer. They're NORMAL.

When a heatwave breaks a record set in 1890 it's because it was AS HOT in 1890, you know?




It is mostly desert NOW. And has been for centuries.

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I means southeast like GA, AL, LA, FL, TN, AR, NC and SC.
 
Yup, heatwave is formed from global warming.

I know that some ADers live in house that don't have AC.

It does same with residents in Chicago area don't have AC in their house or apt or even not installed, just some of them, also same goes to Toronto area too.

I bet that in southeast USA will become desertification or even prairie/steppe in 2050 or who knows.

I had took ecology at high school, it's good class to learn about environment.

Yeah, I don't have a AC at my home, and I have to put up the fan on my guinea pig and keep the cage shadowed, and my cat kept laying as she look so burn out, sometimes she find some shadow space to hide. Everyday when I finish working and go back to home, I sweat so immedately, sometimes I just leave my home and stay at my parent's place with AC till the sky become darker, then I go back to my home which are cooler.. It sucks.

Yeah I got the feelings the southeast USA will be desserted just like the Southwest too.

There is more then enough evidence that Globel warming is man made. It's just some people don't want to admit it. :pissed: :Ohno: :tears:

Besides I simply don't trust scientists.

Yeah I agree with you, people who reject the Global warming are just the people who want to drive their SUVs and causing pollution whatever they wished for and don't want to make it look bad. I call that a Republician's dreamland.

And to Capmeister, I give up debating with you. I still disagree with you anyway, Global warming is very important issue, period.
 
Yeah, I don't have a AC at my home, and I have to put up the fan on my guinea pig and keep the cage shadowed, and my cat kept laying as she look so burn out, sometimes she find some shadow space to hide. Everyday when I finish working and go back to home, I sweat so immedately, sometimes I just leave my home and stay at my parent's place with AC till the sky become darker, then I go back to my home which are cooler.. It sucks.

Yeah I got the feelings the southeast USA will be desserted just like the Southwest too.



Yeah I agree with you, people who reject the Global warming are just the people who want to drive their SUVs and causing pollution whatever they wished for and don't want to make it look bad. I call that a Republician's dreamland.

And to Capmeister, I give up debating with you. I still disagree with you anyway, Global warming is very important issue, period.

Well, they will find out in 2050, that can ALOT of worse than right now.

If you feel so hot then just go roam around wal-fart and got free AC. :)

or you can order wall/window unit AC to keep cool.
 
Well, they will find out in 2050, that can ALOT of worse than right now.

If you feel so hot then just go roam around wal-fart and got free AC. :)

or you can order wall/window unit AC to keep cool.

Haha thanks for the advice, yeah we have to wait till 2050 and see. I am sure 2050 would be much worst than today with overpopulation, more pollution, more heat waves, stuff.... Scary...
 
Haha thanks for the advice, yeah we have to wait till 2050 and see. I am sure 2050 would be much worst than today with overpopulation, more pollution, more heat waves, stuff.... Scary...

Yup, for prediction.

USA will be topping at nearly 500 million population in 2050, that similar to China's population in before 1950's but China don't understand about global warming.

White non-hispanic population will be no longer to be majority due fast growing of latino immigrants.
 
Yup, for prediction.

USA will be topping at nearly 500 million population in 2050, that similar to China's population in before 1950's but China don't understand about global warming.

White non-hispanic population will be no longer to be majority due fast growing of latino immigrants.

500 million in 2050? Wow... I also know that India's population will be the first world population switiching China's population in 2050.
 
Well, they will find out in 2050, that can ALOT of worse than right now.

If you feel so hot then just go roam around wal-fart and got free AC. :)

or you can order wall/window unit AC to keep cool.

Try one in around 1930s, death toll was around 5,000 in US, cause from heat wave.
 
And if you say there's enough evidence that global warming is man made, can you explain why it was warmer in the medieval times in north America?

Exactly how do you know it was warmer in medeval times? Where is your proof of that?

I know that the climate is changing because it hardly ever snows in winter now in the UK. When it does snow it's not proper snow that sticks. Just slushy stuff that's gone by the next day.

Just think logically. Do you really think that man can pollute the environment the way he is doing and not cause permament damage?
 
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