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Doctors and not huge salaries? No true
Every doctor is self-employed. Depend how many patients visit doctor every day to make the profit. If there're few patients, then is bad. Every doctor achieves beautiful villa, car and expensive holidays. To us (Europeans), they are richer. Our Healthy Insurance paid doctors on each patient’s visit. Depend how often the doctor visit patient’s house etc.

I’m afraid yes; we pay a lot of taxes than America.

Well, we paid $6,000. tax a once due the measure of our land for future street/road repair/fix/build, improve enivornment etc before we buy the land and build our house and then paid $46. — tax property every year due measure of house/property for 10 years then increase to normal tax property in every year. Every house buyers received low tax property for 10 years after bought or build the houses. Now I paid $250 tax property a year after 10 years low tax property.

Gasoline include 3 different taxes (Green tax, VAT, Oil tax) (Oil for heater, water, etc.)
Electricity include 3 different taxes (electricity tax, green tax and VAT)
Water includes 2 different taxes (green tax and VAT) and also pay sewage follow how many water used plus VAT.

From $125 for Road tax a year. Depend on which kind of cars. It would be more than $200 if you have big car.

I paid $44 per quarterly charge including Green tax and VAT for dustmen to empty my 3 containers at my property is
Green container for cardboard, newspapers
Yellow container for plastic
Black container for trash
Brown container compost (we don’t need it because we have own compost)

I paid tax from my monthly wage slip.

Gross tax.
Healthy Insurance
Church tax
Unemployment Insurance
Nursing care Insurance
Pension Insurance
solidarity tax


Inheritance tax accord limit of fortune/house property value due the death of parents, siblings, grandparent etc. (Around $500,000 tax free for parents, siblings and grandparents and $10,000 tax free for "great" relatives, friends).

All VAT are including in every stores, restaurants, fast foods etc. that we do not need pay extra.


Come and share about taxes in your country with us. I would interesting to know about your countries...

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What! you pay Church tax? Wow. What is solidary tax?

We pay tax on everything. We go to store and bought things, we pay 8.25 percent tax on it ( soon it will be 8.75 when the ballot come up and people vote for it to increase for more fireman and police). Property tax, we pay (vary on each home and which town u live in, million dollar home pay more tax than my house which worth from 80's) about 1,300.00 per year for road, flood control, fireman, library, school and last one most of $ goes to the top which I believe the ones who is in charge of whole thing. I need to look at them.
Bills, we pay tax on water, gas, electric, phone, cable, and trash.
Also we pay tax on income to federal, state, medicare, and social security.

Average for American to pay tax for first four month ( income tax ),then rest of year money we keep them for ourselves except for bills and things we bought from the store ( we still pay them).

Now my question where hell all those money goes? How come our country and state are broke.

Reba

Doctors in the U.S. don't make house calls.

We don't have church tax. The U.S. Constitution doesn't allow a state-supported church or religion.

Are you allowed to pick which church you pay taxes to?

What is that?

ravensteve1961

See in america is differant. Doctors get paid WAY TOO MUCH!!! If i was the president here what i propose.

Doctors will pay a county or city medical tax.
Doctors will pay a medical license.
Doctors will pay a for registration fee.( Private Pratice only)
Doctors will pay a Building permit fee ( Private Pratice only)
Doctors will pay for malpratice insurance.
Doctors will pay for malpratice insurance local percentage tax like 7 cents on every dollar the insurance cost.
All these taxes collected will go towards people who cant afford medical insurance.And change lawsuit laws.If youre on medicare or medicaid you cannot sue your doctor. If youre on private medical insurance you can sue your doctor and you must not make over $25,000 to qulitfy for medicare or medicaid.
So this way the poor can get medical insurance health care.

Politicans say you dont have a right to drive a car.Its a privelege.I think being a doctor isnt a right nether its a privelege
Now drivers are paying too much just drive a car for example
We have to pay for a Drivers license.
We have to pay for car insurance
We have to pay for our Tags
We have to pay for registration fee.

So if its not a right to drive a car then its not a right to become a doctor nether.

DeafSCUBA98

raven- doctors deserve to be paid alot and be rich.. they work 12 hard years of college education to deserve what they need.. and doctors are been SUED like what u want to do with ur doctors! they pay insurance on that.. and its pricy for doctors. they're not really totally RICH.. they pay alot of dues.. the college they owe for all those 12 years or more. they pay insurance, lawyers fee, and frankly they pay ALOT of taxes.. believe me those demoracts charge doctors high taxes.


for me.. i work.. i pay several taxes.. medical, FICA, property, tax on everything oh god.. i wish i live in a tax-free state!

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ravensteve1961

Scuba why should i pay for bullshit just to drive a car? Car insurance are a TOTAL RIPOFF! There shouldnt be a law make you pay for CAR INSURANCE. It should be an option. If people didnt pay for car insurance i bet insurance companies would have to lower their rates.

Pvt. Parts

Steve,

Driving is a privelige, not a right. Insurance is the cost of that privelige.

ravensteve1961

And Doctors should be paying for these
a county or city medical tax.
a medical license.
a for registration fee.( Private Pratice only)
a Building permit fee ( Private Pratice only)
malpratice insurance.
malpratice insurance local percentage tax.

Instead of driving away in BMWs and living big luxery homes.

Reba

Actually, rates would increase. I already pay a "surcharge" on my premiums to cover "uninsured and under-insured motorists". That is, my insurance covers me if I am hit by someone who does not have insurance. However, that increases MY insurance cost.

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Reba

I believe doctors already pay a huge percentage of their income on various malpractice premiums, license and board fees, staff overhead, office space, etc. I know that some doctors do "pro bono" charity clinic and missionary work in addition to their regular jobs.

I do believe there should be a cap on malpractice suits, beyond the actual expenses. Then, the malpractice premium cost could go down, and doctors could charge less for their services without even reducing their take-home income. Also, they would be less compelled to order "extra" unneeded tests which they do now to CYA against potential malpractice accusations.

gnarlydorkette

Finland has a tax of 22.8%...
Income tax may be up to 35%...

Their public education programs are excellent, thanks to the high taxes. So there are some cons and pros to the high taxes.


Foreign visitors may get a tax refund for all purchases one makes in Finland. "VAT", Value-Added Taxes, are permissible for those purchases that are over 40euros and up to 16% of Finnish tax are reimbursed. (Source)

It has been stated that "Scandinavian countries pay highest income tax".

ravensteve1961

Bullshit reba! Insurance companies DO NOT CARE WHOS FAULT IT IS! cause an accident is an accident! read your policy carefuly. Its says in case of ACCIDENTS!! doesnt say if its not your fault your rates wont go up. Well i had a accident 10 years ago i never had one since yet. And it wasnt even my fault and guess what!!! THEY RAISED MY RATES TELLING ME it could beenm advoided THATS WHEN MY FAMILY DROPPED ALLSTATE! Cause 2 years before that my brothers car got stolen and the police never recover it and all they could do is give you $10 a day towards a rental car
NOW WHERE ARE YOU GONNA GET A RENTAL CAR FOR $10 A DAY?
Dont be fooled if youre on allstate. Allstate is the biggest con artist bunch of guys will do anything to take advantage of you. You might be ok for now but when something happens to your car or your home and you have allstate better watch out cause youre gonna be short of the stick. I know a lady whos home was destroyed by hurricane last year she had allstate.She lost everything in her home. They told her they couldnt give her a R.V to live in.Allstate told her contact F.E.M.A and they probily give you an R.V well F.E.M.A told her they couldnt give her an R.V cause the R.V has to be on her property which was impossibile to do. and she had to spend her life savings just to live in a R.V . If you have allstate heres an advice CALL AND CANCELL YOUR POLICY cause youre gonna get hooked just like me,my brother and this lady.

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I paid tax from my monthly wage slip.

Gross tax.
Healthy Insurance
Church tax
Unemployment Insurance
Nursing care Insurance
Pension Insurance
solidarity tax
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I forget to add my post about the employer.

The employers pay 50% of tax and social insurances for their employees accord German law.

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Liebling:-)))

It explains everything about German tax system.

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_...tax+in+Germany

http://www.answers.com/topic/taxation-in-germany

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Liebling:-)))

Good Point... but the taxes goes for to support the people and country.

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I forget to add in my list.

Yes, I pay car tax and insurance.

Car tax goes for new or repair road/street/autobahn.
Car insurance goes for accidents etc. They cover the cost for the damage car where I hit to damage people´s cars. I think it´s okay for the safety. Without insurance, it would cost alot of money to pay the damage where I cause other car...

They do not increase my car insurance if I´m not the fault who cause the car accidents.

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Liebling:-)))

Other Taxes (German Tax System)

http://www.howtogermany.com/pages/germantaxes.html

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Liebling:-)))

Exactly.

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gnarlydorkette

The priests in America depends on the collective money one may get from the members of the church so only the members of a church PAY for their church's reinvoations. There are *too many religions* in US so it would be impossible for the goverment to split the religion tax (if we ever have one) and distribute it equally to each religion in USA.

A joke comes to my mind:
One day, a shoemaker got a paper saying that he owes the church money.
He came to the priest and asked:
"Why did you bill me the tax? I didn't go to the church at all!"
The priest replied: "WHy didn't you? The door is always open."
The shoemaker went home and decided to make a pair of shoes
for the priest and sent the invoice to the priest.
The priest came next day, "Why did you bill me for the shoes? I didn't order
anything!" The shoemaker replied:
"Why didn't you? My shop's door is always open."

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Thank you for share the link of Finnland

Check the link of German system tax in my response post on Reba´s post.

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Liebling:-)))

Do you mean that you have to pay the charge when you visit doctor? Do you have healthy insurance? If yes, why can´t they cover the cost for you when you visit Doctor?

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Here in Washington state, USA

Gas tax about 30 cents per gallon
federal income tax around 28%, WA state does not have income tax
sales tax 8.875 or 8.9%, rounded up
car registration tax 1.4 and 0.3% for mass transit funding for 3 counties in Seattle metro area
cigarette tax is among one of the highest in the US

in the US, we GO to docotors office and we pay a hefty price, that's why we have health insurance to cover it.

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Oh yes cigarette tax! I forget about this. Thank you for remind me

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Reba

Thanks for the explanations.

Most American churches, synagogues, mosques, assemblies, etc., are supported by their members or church associations. Americans have freedom of religion. That means that the government cannot force someone to pay support to any religious organization.

Example: I am a member of an independent Baptist church. The members pay all the expenses of the church. That includes church building and land, utilities, pastor and staff salaries, supplies, missionary support, and all other costs.


What if your money supports a church that you don't believe in? Why do Protestants support Catholic churches, and why do Catholics support Protestant churches? What if a church is neither Protestant nor Catholic? What about Jews and Muslims? Or JWs, Mormons, or Seventh Day Adventists, or any other non-Protestant, non-Catholic church?

Why?


Oh, I see. Well, of course we don't have a solidarity tax in the U.S.

Also, we don't have VAT.

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Liebling:-)))

perhap the lady don´t have insurance for the house?

Yes we have insurance for our house.

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ravensteve1961

Thats why billy graham would never do a crusade in germany he would be taxed there.

kuifje75

Liebling...

In the United States, our salary is garnished about 20 percent for taxes, social security, etc... Some of that percentage goes to the state government and other percentage goes to the federal government. Every year in the beginning of the year, we have to file for our tax rebates. We file to both the State and to the IRS (Federal). We receive a cheque from each of them as a rebate on our taxes we pay. For example, if a person made 650$, he would bring home only like 550$.

Then you have the taxes imposed on things that you buy.
Utah has a State sales tax of 4,75% plus local taxes. Each city can impose their own taxes and add to the State sales tax. The city of Salt Lake City does not impose any taxes, however the County of Salt Lake does. The tax rate can vary from 5,75% to 7% , and is added to your sales. The prices shown on the sales shelves is "before taxes," unlike Germany where taxes are already included in the shelf price. In Germany, the cash register machine will caculate the taxes and print it out on the receipt. You simply never think about paying additional. If it says 2,50 euros on the shelf, that's what you pay, cos taxes is already included. In USA, it is 2,50$ plus taxes.

Restaurant taxes is usually one percent higher.

Property taxes: tax rates ranges from 0.87% to 1.2% of market value on residential property. If your house is worth $150,000, then you need to pay $1,305 for one year for your property tax.

Gasoline taxes: a Federal tax of 18.4 cents and Utah tax of 24.5 cents is added to the base price.

Church taxes is something that members do themselves. In Utah, the most dominant religion is the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints (Mormons). They are expected to pay 10 percent of their salary to the church, and this is called tithe. I am not a member of any church, therefore I do not pay any tithe.

Some states have a monopoly on liquor sales, forbidding sales of hard liquor in "liquor stores." In Utah, this is the case. In order to purchase hard liquor, you have to go to one of the 22 State Liquor stores in the state. 22 does not sound much, but Utah is not a very populated area, plus about 50 percent of the population does not drink anyhow. The profits from these stores go to the State budget.

Beer, Cigarette and tobacco taxes goes also to the state budget.

In summary, 47.8% of the Utah state budget comes from Income taxes. Another 39.8% of the budget comes from Sales and Use taxes. The rest are from other taxes such as liquor profits, tobacco taxes, etc...

As for what the State government uses these taxes to spend on...
A surprising 44.9% of the State budget is spent on Public Education.
Then next 16.4% goes to Higher Education.
8.1% to capital/debt.
7.8% to health care.
6.6% to corrections (prisons, etc..)

Reba

Federal and state income taxes, Social Security and Medicare, and AFLAC payments are withheld from my salary. My Hubby is self-employed, so he doesn't get a paycheck. His customers pay him, and then he pays his taxes. Every year we file for our taxes, and usually pay another $6,000 in addition to the federal IIRS) and state (South Carolina) taxes that have already been withheld from my pay, and from what Hubby pays. We never get a "rebate" or refund.

Our local sales tax is 6%, except for the city of Charleston (6.5%). (The city of Charleston also has a "hospitality tax" for hotels and restaurants, which makes the total 10%.) We don't have VAT, so the sales tax is added onto the purchase price. We pay sales tax on everything, including food. (Some other states don't charge sales tax for groceries. Also, some state do not have state income tax.)

Property taxes vary from community to community; there is no one rate. I can only give you the example of our house. Our house value is about $180,000. Our tax for the house is $1,500.

County taxes support the public schools, sheriff's department, library, and road maintenance. City taxes support police department, trash, lawn debris and recycling pick up, fire department, and EMS.

South Carolina also charges "personal property" tax for boats, cars, trucks, motorcycles, and mobile homes. The tax for vehicles is determined by its retail value and age. The older the car, the lower the tax. Hubby pays about $230 per year for his van, and about $250 per year for my car.

Church taxes are illegal in the United States. We voluntarily give our money to our local church. Every week we give at least 10% of our gross income to our church as tithe. We give additional money at church to support missionaries, building fund, special projects, and to help other people with emergencies (such as medical bills, car repairs, moving expenses).

sablescort

The Feds take a pretty huge bite out of my paycheck...ouch!

Fed Tax
SS Tax
Medicare Tax

These taxes are taken out of my check right AFTER payroll takes out my 401k retirement and health insurance (I just had my health insurance premiums go up thru roof in the last 5 years *thud* )

But then it doesnt end with my paycheck 'cause I pay 9.25% Tennessee state/Knox County combined sales tax, tags for my car (at $24 plus Knox County is expected to put in an additional "wheel tax" on top of the state tag fee), gas tax, ciggie tax, liquor tax, you name it.

remember this quote always:

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Liebling:-)))

See this explanation.
http://www.eurunion.org/legislat/VATweb.htm

We have 2 different VAT (Value Added Tax) 7% and 16% here in Germany.
16% VAT are including materials, furniture, resturants, fast foods, clothes, shoes etc. etc. etc. except foods/drink. 7% VAT are included foods, drinks, groccer, newspapers, magazines etc.

I am going to scan my bill to show you the example later that we do not need to pay extra like America.

Could you please scan to show me the example of US bills?

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