Islamic terrorists kill 12 in Paris

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Lau2046 said:
This can't be a surprise. The Muslims now out number the French....
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Muslims know English too. This guy spoke english
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Reba said:
I hope that she'll be safe. Let us know.
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she contacted me back few hours ago. she's all good and safe. nowhere close to it.
 
them screaming "Allah Akbur" and speaking "perfect" french without accent are simply clues to narrow down a suspect pool. now we know it's 2 brothers and a homeless man. I'm not quite sure how they did that.

the way these shooters wielded their weapons indicates that they had combat training and/or experience. it was very cold and calculated.
 
Let's stay on topic please...

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Is Islam to Blame for the Shooting at Charlie Hebdo in Paris?
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Terror incidents lead many Westerners to perceive Islam as inherently extremist, but I think that is too glib and simple-minded. Small numbers of terrorists make headlines, but they aren’t representative of a complex and diverse religion of 1.6 billion adherents. My Twitter feed Wednesday brimmed with Muslims denouncing the attack — and noting that fanatical Muslims damage the image of Muhammad far more than the most vituperative cartoonist.

The vast majority of Muslims of course have nothing to do with the insanity of such attacks — except that they are disproportionately the victims of terrorism. Indeed, the Charlie Hebdo murders weren’t even the most lethal terror attack on Wednesday: A car bomb outside a police college in Yemen, possibly planted by Al Qaeda, killed at least 37 people.

One of things I’ve learned in journalism is to beware of perceiving the world through simple narratives, because then new information is mindlessly plugged into those story lines. In my travels from Mauritania to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan to Indonesia, extremist Muslims have shared with me their own deeply held false narratives of America as an oppressive state controlled by Zionists and determined to crush Islam. That’s an absurd caricature, and we should be wary ourselves of caricaturing a religion as diverse as Islam.

So let’s avoid religious profiling. The average Christian had nothing to apologize for when Christian fanatics in the former Yugoslavia engaged in genocide against Muslims. Critics of Islam are not to blame because an anti-Muslim fanatic murdered 77 people in Norway in 2011.

Let’s also acknowledge that the most courageous, peace-loving people in the Middle East who are standing up to Muslim fanatics are themselves often devout Muslims. Some read the Quran and blow up girls’ schools, but more read the Quran and build girls’ schools. The Taliban represents one brand of Islam; the Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai the polar opposite.

There’s a humbling story, perhaps apocryphal, that Gandhi was once asked: What do you think of Western civilization? He supposedly responded: I think it would be a good idea.

The great divide is not between faiths. Rather it is between terrorists and moderates, between those who are tolerant and those who “otherize.”

In Australia after the hostage crisis, some Muslims feared revenge attacks. Then a wave of non-Muslim Australians rose to the occasion, offering to escort Muslims and ensure their safety, using the hashtag #IllRideWithYou on Twitter. More than 250,000 such comments were posted on Twitter — a model of big-hearted compassion after terror attacks.

Bravo! That’s the spirit.

Let’s stand with Charlie Hebdo, for the global outpouring of support has been inspiring. Let’s denounce terrorism, oppression and misogyny in the Islamic world — and everywhere else. But let’s be careful not to respond to terrorists’ intolerance with our own.
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This makes me ill for so many reasons. Plus, my daughter is suppose to travel there this weekend. God I hope she is not going now.

RIP to all the victims and comfort for their poor families.

Does anyone know if there are any travel warnings to Paris?
 
Lau2046 said:
I'm sure somewhere Ben Affleck is still holding firm on his position that we've killed more Muslims than they've killed us.....
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Very likely but the implication is the killing continues until we've reached an even number of killings. I like Affleck a lot. He's intelligent and stands up for what he knows and fights for it.
 
Angel1989 said:
This makes me ill for so many reasons. Plus, my daughter is suppose to travel there this weekend. God I hope she is not going now.

RIP to all the victims and comfort for their poor families.

Does anyone know if there are any travel warnings to Paris?
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The security is so high there that pulling off another well-coordinated, planned attack is highly dubious.

I traveled to Israel (Europe, Greece, and Israel) in 1970. Bombs were going off near enough to us so I could hear (and feel) them. The major cities were well guarded. I remember the AK47s (whatever they were) on Israel soldiers.

I can't say your daughter will be safe but I can say if she's going to go, gadzooks, do it while Paris is under complete scrutiny. We're under a high-level alert level. http://terror-alert.com/
 
I've said before this isn't a political issue. It's amazing how many choose not to blame terrorist over a political party.

Those cartoonist who died knew this.. They understood that the these problems were not brought on by people who want to make the world a better place. It's really sad.
 
I don't want to have to lock this thread, last warning!

Thank you.
 
That's very sad news! Honestly, the terrorists can make it happen anywhere, even USA like they already did 9/11. I am sure that France tried hard to prevent terrorism in its homeland but somehow the terrorists made it through. Islam extremists are evil and Muslims are not evil.
 
Steinhauer said:
Well, the progressive ideology is to create a violent free utopia where no one needs to carry guns .. correct? So why do you have a hard time understanding that not everyone wants the same utopia? Why is it that it is so difficult to understand that there will always be evil men and women plotting to further their twisted ideology with the use of force, violence and intimidation? Why is it so difficult to understand that the only way to stop them is the use of force?

Why would you want to take away a person's right to use force to defend themselves? Why is it difficult to understand that by doing this, it gives the wicked and evil sadistic SOB's free reign over the innocent?

Just curious ... it is a question that has never been fully answered by those who hold this view.
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Please could we let go and it is not necessary to discuss about political in extremely tragic event, bro.

We don't want OP (Reba) to be disappointed if her thread gets locked.
 
Foxrac said:
Please could we let go and it is not necessary to discuss about political in extremely tragic event, bro.

We don't want OP (Reba) to be disappointed if her thread gets locked.
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:laugh2: If he knows how to stop, no problem.
 
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