FL. Loses Appeal in Terri Schiavo Case

Miss*Pinocchio said:
It is ashamed that she did all of this to herself to keep a man.

That is why I got pissed off when a guy told me to work hard for him...
he wanted me to look better and dress like a slut or whatever.

If a man won't love me for me.... then he can kiss my ass. He ain't worth it.

She wasn't bulimic because of Michael. She was bulimic, because, she thought she wasn't a good enough human being. Eating disorders happen when a person has little to no self worth. She may have wanted to please Michael, though. That is possible, but there was a lot more going on than just that.

Bank on it.
 
Hmmm... A partial excerpt of that interview with G V Susteren is right there in the link I provided, and I do not see any contradiction on his part. He was merely stating that yes, it is possible a pottasium defiency could cause a condition commensurate with Terri's condition, but pointed out the reasons why it is highly unlikely.
He expressed his strong suspicion that it came from beatings.
I agree that there is more to this than meets the eye.
 
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Toonces said:
Excuse me, just one more thing.... ^_^;;;

If you don't have children of your own, don't be so quick to say "Oh, that's easy, I'll just let my child die, it's better that way!" It is NOT as easy to let a child go as you think. That's why I said to think about it.

(I'm sorry, Magatsu. I'm not sure if you are a father or not. ^^;; )

Well, let me tell you.

My friend's grown son lied in "wake" coma after work accident at few years ago. The doctors cant do anything to get him up because his brain is dead.
The doctors suggested my friend, her ex-husband and 2 grown children about his organ donor before turn his machine off. It took them few days thinking and agree. All of his organ are removed and end his life. I feel cry when she told me the story last year. She said that it's very very very hard for her to let his son go but she has to with the agreement from her ex to save his son's suffer.

I'm agree with Magastu. I would let my child go if the doctor said that they cant do anything to save my child life. I know it's very very very hard because I'm myself mother but I know the child deserve a peace life. I would keep crying when I see a child suffering... No way.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
How do you know he beat her, TTT? Just because there are bone scans suggesting there were broken bones? Well, guess what...Laying in a bed for 13 years also brings about osteoporosis, which, also causes bone fractures. With osteoporosis, just rolling over in bed, can cause a fracture.

She also suffered from an eating disorder that also predisposes someone to osteoporosis, don't be so quick to say she was abused. Because, you really don't know!

Exactly, it's osteoporosis lead bones fracture easily.

All what you do to protect your bones then take osteoporosis pill if you notice your bone is weak and fracture easily.
 
Meg said:
Both ways are painful and disgusting. Letting her live when her soul is already gone or letting her die of starvation. Clearly it is no win win situation but pick out the lesser pain. Which one do you think it is less painful? I would rather help my daughter go to Heaven than force her to stay on Earth for decades and have no quality of life.

:werd: :gpost:
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
If Terri talks one day, and after she can be able to do some things...
Would it be sad if she reads this about what you said that her brain is mush?

Never!
 
^Angel^ said:
I understand how the parents must be feeling about losing their daugther and having her husband taking the role of having her to die is because he did not want to see her suffer anymore nor she was getting any better, so he rather to see her off the feeding tube and let her die in peace, as the doctors had stated that also....

This is one of the toughness decision to make as a parent, since I am a parent myself too and yes it would be hard to let my child go, but then again I will think real hard on this by knowing my child's brains is dead, and hearing from serveral doctors on whether or not there will ever be any improvements or any changes in the furture for my child to be healthy once again, yet knowing my child might be in pain, and see no changing in any of this, and also thinking do I want to see her/him be happy again? Do I want to see my child walking around enjoying her/his life than staying in the hospital bed for weeks, for months even years? or spending the rest of her/his life by laying there? and not seeking out where my child should be enjoying his/her life?....I would rather to see my child be happy once again and I know my child would be once he/she is in heaven, being able to enjoy the life that my child deserves to have, not a life where you lay in bed for the rest of your life by a machine that is keeping you alive....That's not a kind of life I would want to put my child thru, I rather to die to see that happen to my child....I will let my child go and let her/him be free from all the pain and suffering and let my child have peace in heaven where my child will be happy again!!:)...

:gpost: :werd:

Wonderful post, it's exact description how I feel. See my earlier post over my friend. :(
 
^Angel^ said:
I don't believe a minute that she may be suffering from starve if her brains is dead Cheri and beside would you rather your child to live off a machine that keeping your child alive?, I mean you have to look at it this way also, not just the starving part....I know this is going to be hard decision to make as a parent but I don't want my child living in a hospital where a machine is keeping him alive, I rather to see my child enjoy the life that is REALLY out there, by doing so is to stop the machine that keeping him alive, and let him die peacefully and he will have the kind of life he deserved to have without going thru all the pains and suffering!...

Yes, I second that.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
No, she's not. She's vegetative. That tape is very misleading. They ran it for hours and hours until they caught reflexive actions, and calledthem "purposeful" movements.

Also, she suffered a severe lack of oxygen to her brain damaging it beyond repair. Terri is also not paralyzed. Christopher Reeve suffered a broken neck, and therefore was paralyzed.

Correct.
 
Cheri said:
^Angel^;

I don't think you have read the links that Toonces had provide, I think you are reading everyone else posts here.

Let me show you something about Terri....




Terri's husband,

He wanted her to die, He doesn't care about her, he wants her estate, her money. and this...

Bottom line is: It is wrong for our society to decide who dies base on their opinions of what level of quality life is worth living, We don't know what Terri wants. It makes me sad what Terri is going through, But the same time It makes me heartbroken seeing our society controling her life, deciding when she should die, What happen to having faith? What happen to believing in miracle? I know it is no fun watching someone laying in bed, but I don't believe in taking someone's life just because you think she has no life, even through she is breathing on her own. :(

Oh, I got it!

Terri is not lying on coma and not have dead brain in the hospital but home take care by Terri's husband.

I can see that what Terri's husband did to her is not right but she suffer for 15 years like this. Oh my dear! Husband should let Terri's parents to take her over or their support if husband cant cope with her alone anymore.

I has to re-read Terris' situation again. I thought she lied on coma and have dead brain until I saw your post that Terri is not at hospitail but home.
 
Meg said:
Sad..but how do we really know the truth?

True, as far as I know that brain-damaged cant talk.

It look like that she receive plenty of love and attention from her parents to improve her healthy. ??? ***dunno***

I know it's hard to beleive that brain-damaged patient can talk.
 
Miss*Pinocchio said:
It would awful to starve a person to death.

Nobody would starve a dog to death, but rather put it to sleep.

So why not put Terri to sleep...
since some people want her to die??

True, I'm agree with you for put her sleep to save her suffer than let her starve to death.
 
^Angel^ said:
I am totally confused on this, Terri is brain-damaged, how is she able to respond by communicate verbally , laugh, cry etc?....

I thought she only had part of her brains working by being able to breathe, but if that the case as it say above then she doesn't deserved to die....

I thought the same after reading the whole thread here. :(

but ... but... but... 15 years brain-damaged suffer? No life for her. :(
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I has to re-read Terris' situation again. I thought she lied on coma and have dead brain until I saw your post that Terri is not at hospitail but home.


I think Terri is at the hospice, actually. (But I'll probably need to read again to make sure).
 
A Terri Schiavo's supporter typed this.

I found this plea for help, and thought it may interest some members on this site:

A woman is about to be murdered, and you probably already know her name--Terri Schiavo.

Please help us rescue Terri from a horrible death by starvation! The moment her feeding tube is removed, Terri will begin a long, slow, painful death by starvation and dehydration.

We need your help NOW to rescue Terri from her cruel executioners. They've already tried to kill her once before, and she fought to stay alive. But this may be the last chance Terri gets. Will you help save her life?

MEDIA LIES

If you've heard about Terri only through the news media, you've probably been led to believe things like this:

* Terri brain dead.
* She is in a coma.
* She's a vegetable.
* Extraordinary means are being used to keep her alive.
* She wants to die but her parents stubbornly won't let it happen.

None of these things are true!

Terri is NOT brain dead. She is NOT in a coma. She is NOT in a "persistent vegetative state." And she is not on ANY life-support system.


THE FACTS THE MEDIA HIDES FROM YOU

When her parents visit her, Terri laughs, she cries, she moves, and she makes child-like attempts at speech with her mother and father. Sometimes she will say "Mom" or "Dad" or "yeah" when they ask her a question. And when they kiss her hello or goodbye, she looks at them and "puckers up" her lips.

She's able to sit in a chair, she loves to listen to her favorite music, and she recognizes her brother and sister when they come to visit.

Board-certified neurologist Dr. Jacob Green of Jacksonville, Florida, who examined Terri, said unequivocally: "She is not in a vegetative state." When asked if it would be ethical to remove her feeding tube, he said, "I'd call it murder."

Terri receives food and liquid through a feeding tube because she can't swallow. In other words, Terri depends on food and water to stay alive-just like everybody else!

But her husband, Michael, wants to disconnect her only means of food so that she will slowly starve to death.

Medical experts all agree that death by starvation and dehydration is perhaps the most painful, the most tortuous, and the most agonizing way to die.

Yes, Terri's injury left her disabled. But there are tens of thousands of disabled people who depend on gastro feeding tubes every day, and they live otherwise normal lives.


Terri can breathe for herself. She is not on a ventilator. Her vital organs are working fine, which means she is not hooked up to a machine. Furthermore, she is NOT dying or being "kept alive" by artificial means. She does not have a terminal disease, and she will be able to feel pain if she is starved to death.

And that could start to happen in the next few days.


THE IMMEDIATE CRISIS

Time is running out for Terri. Her feeding tube could be removed THIS WEEK!!!

There is one last court procedure that is being tried to save Terri's life, but if it fails her feeding tube could be removed Wednesday.

If that happens then only thing that may save her might be action by Florida Governor Jeb Bush.

Governor Bush has already fought to save Terri's life. The last time her feeding tube was removed he stepped in and snatched her back from the brink of death. The Florida legislature even passed a special law--"Terri's Law"--to give him the authority to keep her alive.

But then the law was struck down by a judge, putting Terri's life on the line once again.

If the courts continue their anti-life crusade against Terri and others like her, the only thing that may save her would be action by Governor Bush.


WHERE YOU COME IN

The attorneys who are fighting for Terri's life have a few more possible ways to prevent Terri's murder. But these are last-ditch efforts that may or may not work. The courts are decidedly on Michael's side--not Terri's.

So that means we have to come to Terri's aid-especially through the amazing power of prayer and sacrifice--but also by sharing this story with everybody you know, and encouraging Governor Jeb Bush to do everything he can to rescue Terri once again.

Here's what you can do . . .

1.) First, PRAY for Terri--harder than ever before! Not enough people are praying for Terri right now. And she needs our prayers now more than ever.

2.) Second, FAST along with Terri if and when her feeding tube gets removed--and then offer up your sacrifices for her.

3.) Third, please ENCOURAGE Governor Bush to do everything he can to rescue Terri. Since time is of the essence, we recommend that you send him an e-mail by clicking this link:

jeb.bush@myflorida.com

Or, if you prefer, you can call his office at the Florida State Capitol at (850) 488-4441.

4.) The more people who know the true story about Terri Schiavo and how she is in imminent danger of being murdered, the greater our chances of achieving a victory in this life-or-death struggle between good and evil.

It's hard to believe, but there are many hard-hearted people out there who believe that, due to Terri's condition, she is "better off dead." Words cannot describe the pain and anger such sentiments cause Terri's family.

This is their daughter, their little girl. And even in her disabled condition, she still has the right to life and the right to be loved and cared for by her family.

Terri doesn't have to die. If you'll carry out the steps above, we can win this battle and save Terri's life.

Please do your part--immediately--because tomorrow may be too late.
 
Tooces, I has to re-read again carefully..... I will back again either I understand correct or not over home or hosptital... :P




Her husband, Michael Schiavo, contends she never wanted to be kept alive artificially. But her parents told justices in a filing that their son-in-law is trying to rush her death so he can inherit her estate and be free to marry another woman.

:jaw:

Rush? :squint: Terri is alive for 15 years. Is "15 years" rush what the parents claimed? :squint:

Excuse me, the parents must be :crazy: to say that it's "rush" and suspect too much over him because Terri is living with brain-damage for 15 years..... It make no sense what they claimed about Terri's husband.

I'm sure that Terri will understand that her husband need a woman.
 
Terri's husband is so stupid, he is wasting so much time fighting to
remove her tube. He needs to give up and concentrate on his family.
That is sad.... the family members and him are fighting over this
for years....

Michael is only making himself look like a monster. :(
 
Miss*Pinocchio

Please provide a LINK or URL too!
not only copy and paste due of copyright some of the website/newspapers/etc wants to have their credits too!.. please provide link as you read their sites/newspapers so I also can find the source from! if it was paid one...


I am sure Many people in many websites, forums, newspapers want to make sure their link were included too because of the copyrights and If it happen to mine too I would make sure the link is provided included which I always do!
 
Toonces said:
I think Terri is at the hospice, actually. (But I'll probably need to read again to make sure).

I re-read and think that Terri was care taken by her husband then return to Woodside Hospice because her husband cant cope it anymore. Correct?
 
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