Father's 4 Pit Bulls Kill His 22-Month-Old Son

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looks like they need to put on those muzzles on every pit bull seen in public...
 
Steel X said:
looks like they need to put on those muzzles on every pit bull seen in public...
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yeah look like .. in my home on the street that I saw one of a guy who have pitbull that wear muzzles when go outside all the times that I notice it in the street near my home :) so the guy wont let his pitbull to bite other ppl so he is protect his dog to wear muzzles. :)
 
^Angel^ said:
No problems here's one DOG BITE LAW - Advice for Parents About Getting a Dog


Here's another....The Pit Bull Lovers Gazette - Issue


I have many more if you would like read more facts about pitbulls, I'll be more than glad to help....
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your sources honestly do not have any creditals to 'em its all opinions while I can provide sources thats reliable and has evidence.


A 10 Lbs Pomeranian killed a baby a few years ago... Obviously a problem with that particular dog, not the breed. "The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000, Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)"
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Pet Pit Bull - Breed-specific Legislation


Pit bull - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read the whole shebang.... thats where all of my quotes comes from in different sections of this url.

it even have proven court cases about the ban of the pit bulls-

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which maintains the United States' database on fatal wounds inflicted by dog bites, does not advocate breed-specific legislation, instead encouraging "Dangerous Dog" laws that focus on individual dogs of any breed that have exhibited aggressive behavior.

Huntsville, Alabama police raided a dog-fighting arena on Feb 28, 2002 and seized 10 pit bulls. The city's attempt to legally euthanize four pit bull puppies, never trained to fight, was stopped by Madison County Circuit Court Judge Joe Battle, who ruled that the pit bull puppies were not dangerous by virtue of their genetics alone (AP Wire; Apr 6, 2002). Huntsville appealed to the Alabama Supreme Court, which affirmed (City of Huntsville v. Sheila Tack et al., 1010459, S.C. Alabama; Aug 30, 2002) the Circuit Court opinion by a 6-2 vote; the written dissent addressed procedural matters of legal status of the parties, not the nature of the dogs. The puppies were adopted.
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even the root of this thread- there was an evidence

Recent "pit bull" mauling cases include the June 2005 attack on 12-year old Nicholas Faibish, who was locked in the basement of his families home then killed by his father's dog in San Francisco while his mother was not home. "Pit bull" owners point out that Nicholas was bitten earlier in the day by the same dogs and, instead of doing something to protect her son, Nicholas' mother locked him in the basement. It is also relevant that both dogs were also entire and the female was in oestrous.
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like DUH! stupid owners not the breed itself, the boy had an unfortunate chance to have stupid parents who didnt fix their damn dogs.

to calm your fear about the pitbulls the finale of my defense

There are many urban legends surrounding the "pit bull," mostly based on the idea that the dogs are somehow physiologically different from other breeds of dog.

Many sources propagate the myth that "pit bulls" have a "locking jaw" mechanism, and that the dog cannot let go once it has bitten. It is indisputable that pit bulls generally have strong jaws for their size. However, as stated by Dr. I. Brisbin (University of Georgia) "The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different from that of any breed of dog.
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That is what many defenders has been saying the whole time

its not the damn breed once again honestly do you even know how many breed of dogs exist that can cause the same harm? honestly in my opinion its really the war against the bad guys vs the good guys as the bad guys uses those dogs as a status


a trueblood neo. mastiff primed to fight CAN outfight a champion pitbull as I've seen the aftermath- the pit had to be put down same with the mastiff.

I've heard of bait dogs of all kinds beating the crap out of pitbulls. thats why fighters train by taping the muzzle of the bait dogs so the pits can learn. if you still are firm with your beliefs about this specific breed being dangerous then you have to also have the same belief with the bulldogs but yes i do agree with ONE common thing- its the owners that needs to be responsible for any animals they're in charge of regardless of the breed

What is undisputed is that any untrained, unsocialised dog can be dangerous, particularly when the dog is as large and as powerful as the "pit bull." The "pit bull" is not a suitable dog for a novice dog owner. Although these dogs can be good pets and working dogs in the right hands, they can become dangerous when kept by negligent or ignorant owners.

As yet authorities continue to debate whether the pit bull is intrinsically more dangerous than other dogs, or whether it is no more dangerous than any other large and dominant dog breed — such as the Rotweiller, Mastiff, Dobermann, German Shepherd or Chow.
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you have your beliefs and I have mine :) at least I defended my findings with reasonable points its up to people who want to judge from themselves as there is more and more awareness about the injustice of banning a specific breed as I know in few years this very debate will go to the supreme court as many people are seeing how ridiclious this is with banning of one specific breed, hell theres even laws now that does not ban the breed but ban the DANGEROUS DOG as an individual :)

racism at its finest.

however I'm an avid supporter of destroying any dangerous dogs of all sizes. Its not fair to other dogs who is cabable of being part of a family being put down due to the lack of space due to the overpopulation.
 
Sugar Addict..

Will you mind please step back far distance... One day you'll realized that your pit bull bitten someone... Whoever will press charge againist you....

You will regret it and come back here.. sorry you're right...
Wasting time... enuff this matter!

This thread is stall and wasting time..
Whoever NEVER accept anyone who have feeling and secure respect... Nobody respect any members.. All you want throw whipping cream pie their face. I think you need chill out!
 
GalaxyAngel said:
Sugar Addict..

Will you mind please step back far distance... One day you'll realized that your pit bull bitten someone... Whoever will press charge againist you....

You will regret it and come back here.. sorry you're right...
Wasting time... enuff this matter!

This thread is stall and wasting time..
Whoever NEVER accept anyone who have feeling and secure respect... Nobody respect any members.. All you want throw whipping cream pie their face. I think you need chill out!
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Nah, not necessary. Sugar Addict is entitled to share her/his POV/opinions via provided the links to show the evidences. She/He has her/his right to voice her/his view.
 
CyberRed said:
Nah, not necessary. Sugar Addict is entitled to share her/his POV/opinions via provided the links to show the evidences. She/He has her/his right to voice her/his view.
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And so do we CR and yet some of us are getting attack for doing so, how lovely....
 
^Angel^ said:
Don't blame us, blame those pitbulls owners who train the dog to become mean....
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who said i was blaming you?? heh! Yeah i could blame the pitbull dog owners who train them to be mean but what about German Shepherds, Dobermans,
Poodles, Mastifs, Boxers, Bulldogs, etc, the Owners do train them to be mean also! Not just Pitbulls, you know that! you just seem to think people train ONLY pitbulls, geeeez!
You need stop thinking that only pitbulls are mean, not so..all other kinds of dogs can be mean also, ok? Also not all pitbulls and other breeds and mutts are not mean!! it really depends on HOW THEY WERE RAISED, PERIOD.
Have a blessed day!
 
Defee said:
who said i was blaming you?? heh! Yeah i could blame the pitbull dog owners who train them to be mean but what about German Shepherds, Dobermans,
Poodles, Mastifs, Boxers, Bulldogs, etc, the Owners do train them to be mean also! Not just Pitbulls, you know that! you just seem to think people train ONLY pitbulls, geeeez!
You need stop thinking that only pitbulls are mean, not so..all other kinds of dogs can be mean also, ok? Also not all pitbulls and other breeds and mutts are not mean!! it really depends on HOW THEY WERE RAISED, PERIOD.
Have a blessed day!
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This happen to be a pitbull thread so therefore that is why we're talking about pitbulls here Defee...


I didn't say pitbulls were mean I said they're most dangerous breeds and I also said that the pitbulls owners are the ones who train them to become mean....And the only reason why some people talk about pitbulls alot more than other breeds is cause some people who own pitbulls use them as " dogfights " than any other breeds and it's a popular sports since it's involved in alot of money even we all know it's against the law but it does not stop some people from doing what they're doing to those pitbulls.... And another thing is it's not only because of how some pitbull were raised or properly trained Defee, some can become aggression from poor breeds or health problems just like any other dogs.. I know that ANY dogs breeds can bite and can inflict harm but there are some facts and stories to prove that several breed of dogs bites more or causes more injury than any other breed of dog as pitbull were one of these dogs that were listed and there are state laws that hold owners accountable for the actions of their dogs regardless of breed as pitbulls attacks has been reported on more than any other breeds, maybe you are right, they only pointing this out only to the pitbulls not the other breeds, but I rather to see proof, and therefore I only see a few and that's not enough for me to believe that all other breeds can be quite dangerous as pitbulls... Many children, adults, and even pets are getting killed or attacks cause irresponsible owners who simply refuse to keep their dogs under control and making lame excuses and etc....And the biggestttt problem here is that irresponsible owners keeps buying pitbulls for bad reason only to make money out of this dogfighting sports or just looking for a breed that will protect them and their familes but doesn't think twice what will happen if their pitbull become loose or being left in the house alone with a child? ....:eek3:


I'm not trying to pin point the blame only on pitbulls Defee, it's just that there are more than 280 cases and therefore it's makes me wonder if pitbulls can make a good family pet?...This got me stuggle to the point where I feel strongly that pitbulls should not be owned if there children in the home....I'm sorry at least I'm being honest on how I really feel about pitbulls even I know there are some friendly pitbulls out there that are being treat with kindness, but I have fears of owning a pitbull myself, like some people have fears of black spiders, snakes, lizards etc, by refusing to own one as a pet, it's the same thing....

I hope you understand where I'm coming from on this as much as I know where you're coming from on this too Defee, but don't hate me for allow to speak freely on this even you and I can't sit down and agree with each others on this but at least I understand your feeling regarding pitbulls and I'm not here to change your mind or hurt anyone's feelings for that matter....
 
Another sad local story:

Two Pit Bulls Attack Then Eat Another Dog

Live 5 News

Police say that at about 8:00 this morning (Tuesday), two pit bulls got into a fenced yard at 2626 Dellwood Street were a dog was chained. The pit bulls attacked and killed the dog. They then began to eat the carcass.

Animal Control officers arrived on scene and were able to capture the pit bulls. The two dogs are now in the custody of the SPCA.
 
One thing I noticed about a lot of pitbull attacks is that they involve at least 2 pitbulls. That makes the pet owner appear more suspiciously to be training them to become violent dogs.

Eradicating a breed is not the solution as these pet owners will turn over to a different breed and apply the same methods to them. That's one of my biggest concerns. Tougher laws need to be laid onto the dog owners who train their dogs for the wrong reasons.

Just my opinion.
 
It is a shame that some people are ignorant and mis-informed when it comes to pitbulls. The ratio of good pitbulls that never attacked to ones that were mis-treated and did attack is very high. I know of quite a few people that have pitbulls or have had pitbulls, and they were great dogs that never hurt anyone. They all had children and the dogs were great around the kids. I have a pitbull and the guy that we got him from had 3 pitbulls, a boxer a cat, rats, snakes bunnies and 2 young children. When we went to look at the pups the dogs were very friendly with us, the kids and the other animals. You can't judge all pitbulls by the few that have done wrong, it is the same as stereo-typing people, it's wrong. You have to supervise any child around any dog, because no dog should be trusted around a child alone no matter what the breed. All dogs are capable of biting and there is no specific breed to fear the most because statistically pitbulls are one of the least likely to bite.
 
This update was in my local newspaper this week:

Father of boy killed by pit bulls is charged

BAMBERG--The father of a 22-month-old Bamberg boy who died after being mauled by four pit bulls has been charged with involuntary manslaughter, authorities said.
Michael Anton Young Jr., 25, was charged last week with criminal negligence and disregard for the safety of a child in connection with the November 2006 incident, according to an arrest warrant.
...Young faces up to five years in prison if convicted.
 
Calphool said:
Ugg... you missed my point in the Adolf Hitler analogy. I wasn't calling your dog Hitler. I was saying that anecdotal examples of good behavior don't mean that a thing is inherently safe. Hitler was just used to illustrate the point that anecdotal behavior is not meaningful. It had nothing to do with your dog, and I wasn't comparing your dog to Hitler. (I was comparing your argument to the idea that Hitler was sometimes nice. In other words, what difference did it make that he was sometimes nice? He was still a dangerous man.) I could have just as easily illustrated my point by using skateboarding. "I'm sure there are skateboarders out there somewhere that have never suffered a broken bone. That doesn't mean skateboarding is inherently safe."

When the CDC says "pit bull types", what do you think they mean? I think they mean dogs with pit bull genetics -- in fact, they track it that way -- they keep pure breads separate from mixed pit bulls. The statistics still show that BOTH types of dogs are qualitatively more likely to kill someone than other breeds.

Obviously there are examples of pit bulls that have never bitten anyone, and will die of old age having never bitten anyone. I'm sure most of them have good owners that walk them and feed them and play with them every day. That's not really the point. The point is that some breeds of dogs (not just pit bulls) carry genes that make them larger and potentially more dangerous than other breeds. This is a matter of public concern, not just private ownership rights.

It's wrong to tell me, or people who agree with me, that we're crazy or uninformed. Some of us are quite informed, and we simply disagree with you. If someone can show me a credible study showing that dog behavior is totally uninfluenced by genetics, I'll kindly apologize and shut up. Until that time, I'm justified in encouraging legislation that limits ownership of these animals, or at least forces owners to be responsible for the inherent risk they're imposing on themselves, their children, me, and my children.
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:gpost:

I understood your analogy about Hilter from the beginning and I thought it was a good one. :)
 
Opal said:
As a former owner of four German Shepherds Dogs, I brought them up all same and equal.

Only one was evil - bited my husband.

Is it my fault?

No - I believe this dog need help like out of control children with ADD, is it their parent's fault?

We can't read their mind, only find out too late AFTERWARD!!

Come on, some are born with it!!!
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*nodding agreement*
 
Angel said:
Important information to remember that pit bulls are not just like any other dogs breeds out there and they're little more of everything a dog can be.. Pit bulls are strong, energetic, and most powerful dogs which they can easy develop behavior problems if poorly bred, mishandled, abused, unsocialized, etc., that could result in being aggressitive which can do a lot of damage...

Any child don't know any better what it's like to treat or raise a pet, sometimes children can be rough while playing with a dog, or teasing it, they're putting themselves in a risky position in which they can be likely attacked...What happens if the owner already has an older pitbull, and suddenly brings a newborn baby in the house, even the dog hasn't socialized or been around a newborn baby yet, then what's going to happen to this newborn child?...I'm not trying to point this out in reference to pitbulls only, but all I'm saying here is that any large, strong, and powerful dog in which attacks can or could do a lot of damage to a child, an adult or any other kind of household pets....The bottom line is Pit bull owners may need to take extreme measures to assure that their dogs can't be in such a situation where and when a life can be endangered or maimed for life....:(
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Very true... I would NEVER adopt pitbulls since I know their bad reputations... My children is NUMBER ONE in the world, I´m care about.

Sure, pitbulls could be friendly to children but it could be suddenly on next day... A lot of pitbulls attack babies/toddlers/children because they bother pitbills eating dog foods. They are very sensitive dogs - could be hurt you if you bother them...

Sure, many pets are bite but not the same as dangerous breeds ...
 
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