Do you have I2EYES Dlink VideoPhone?

[HiBluE01]

I Already Have I2EYES VP!!!!

 

[dkf747]

No, not true that VP-100 were made specifically for relay!

FROM: http://www.sorensonvrs.com/company/index.php

"The company's Sorenson VP-100™ is the first consumer-based broadband videophone appliance specifically designed for deaf and hard-of-hearing individuals. Sorenson IP Relay Service (www.siprelay.com) allows users to place text-based relay calls from a PC or mobile device to any standard telephone user."

You could use VP-100 for any videoconferencing with just practically anyone who use H.232 protocol.

You can use it as a doorstop or as a paper weight as well. Doesn't mean it was designed for that purpose. I guess using big words like "designed" might throw you off the point. Sorenson makes its money from VRS, not when you use it for VP to VP videoconferencing. That's a feature of it, but is not it's main purpose.

The only thing that VP-100 designs differ from Dlink was that it is programmed to use specifically ONE VRS provider, that is SorensonVRS. They have them blocked with other VRS provider. [

The other difference is in how they are marketed. The DVC-1000 is marketed to hearing people and corporations. It was also used by other VRS services to compete with Sorenson's product.

Sorenson designed the software for both the DVC-1000 and the VP-100. That's why Sorenson can add features while the competitors are left out in the cold. (Yes, that is an example of Monopoly power.)

Sorenson have I think 3 patents on these device, while Dlink have 7 patents on them as well. Dlink is the manufacturer for these devices. Sorenson don't really owns whole thing at all.

from: http://www.sorenson.com/products/

" The Sorenson VP-100 and the D-Link i2eye videophones were both developed by Sorenson Communications. However, the Sorenson-branded videophone is designed specifically for the deaf community while the D-Link i2eye videophone is intended for the mass market. "

Sorenson does not own DLink, however, they do license the technology to DLink to sell. The same way a japanese built car can have Chevrolet's name on it.

 

[diehardbiker]

Re-READ again! It does NOT say specifically designed for use only SorensonVRS! It was specifically designed for deafies as political purposes to get $ grants, that is ALL! I can call my friends and associates who have videoconference unit though my Sorenson VP-100 without any problem.

FROM: http://www.sorensonvrs.com/company/index.php

"The company's Sorenson VP-100™ is the first consumer-based broadband videophone appliance specifically designed for deaf and hard-of-hearing individuals.

Clarification, Dlink VP and Sorenson VP were almost identically to each other, just that Sorenson added features in there like phone book, etc, and disable only numbers that would connects to other VRS provider. That is ALL!

 

[dkf747]

Re-READ again! It does NOT say specifically designed for use only SorensonVRS! It was specifically designed for deafies as political purposes to get $ grants, that is ALL! I can call my friends and associates who have videoconference unit though my Sorenson VP-100 without any problem.

DHB - that is almost the same as what I said.

 

[Mookie]

Is that all in debating? Very interesting debatation thread...

Any of VP can be working each other especially Webcams. Other kind of videotelecommunication device can not work to either I2EYES and Sorsenson. They must match the specifically design. I.E., Videotelecommunication can not match any VPs for military agencies...

 

[diehardbiker]

Exactly! you are on right track.
It really depend on protocol. If it is H.232 compliant then NO PROBLEM connect that VP from Sorenson or I2eye.

The one, motorola just manufacturer uses H.264 compliant, THEN that model will NOT work with any VRS or VP-100 or I2eye! Motorola is STUPID company, thinking that they will land in high demanding market. They missed a mile away!

Is that all in debating? Very interesting debatation thread...

Any of VP can be working each other especially Webcams. Other kind of videotelecommunication device can not work to either I2EYES and Sorsenson. They must match the specifically design. I.E., Videotelecommunication can not match any VPs for military agencies...

 

[Mookie]

How well do you know if you signed the Sorenson and VRS agreement contract?

Did you know that Sorenson Media can be very nosy on your converations much worse than any VRS? Read next post...

 

[Mookie]

A deaf installer for VRS told me that Sorenson Media has rights to monitor any converstions between you and ASL person espeically with interpreters. That means you automatically lost your private info....

VP-100 SORENSON VRS™ SERVICE & PRODUCTS AGREEMENT

C. Further, Sorenson Media reserves the right to investigate any abusive, pornographic, lewd, obscene, harassing, fraudulent, or unlawful use or access of the VRS or breach of this Agreement and to seek reimbursement and damages, and Sorenson Media will not be liable for any cost or damage arising either directly or indirectly from your use or misuse of the VRS. Further, Sorenson Media reserves the right to monitor your use of the VRS to ensure you do not violate the terms and conditions of this Agreement and to terminate this Agreement and the VRS immediately in the event of any violation.

Calls made through the VRS are confidential. Sorenson Media will not disclose any information from your conversations, and no records of the conversations content are kept. Sorenson Media has implemented technology and security features and strict policy guidelines to safeguard the privacy of your video relay calls and any customer identifiable information from unauthorized access or improper use, and Sorenson Media will continue to enhance its security procedures as new technology becomes available.

H: You the Sorenson VRS Client understand and hereby acknowledge that your use of Sorenson VRS requires that your voice and/or image may be recorded and transmitted over the Internet. You further understand that due to the nature of the internet any privacy right, copyright or other right or interest in your voice, image or likeness may be lost with respect to any specific transmission as a result of such transmission. You authorize and specifically grant permission to Sorenson Media, Inc. to record and transmit your voice, likeness and/or image over the Internet solely for the purpose of use of VRS interpretation services at Sorenson Media, Inc., and further release and agree to hold Sorenson Media, Inc. harmless from any and all responsibility for any such loss of rights and/or interests resulting from transmission of your voice, image and/or likeness over the internet. The foregoing shall not be construed to be a consent to use of your voice, image or likeness for purposes other than use of Sorenson VRS. Except for the authorization and permission specifically granted to Sorenson Media, Inc. in this agreement, you reserve all right, title and interest in and to any and all forms of your voice, image or likeness. You as a Sorenson VRS client agree to not use or facilitate the use of the voice, image, and/or likeness of the Sorenson VRS interpreter in any way other than for the purposes intended by Sorenson Media, Inc. for performance of its Sorenson VRS interpretation services. Sorenson Media shall have the right to immediately terminate, suspend, restrict, or cancel your use of the VRS without advance notice in the event that Sorenson Media becomes aware that you are or may be breaching the prohibitions of this paragraph

Well, they may save your digital converations in the file.....

 

[Mookie]

Click for ASL streaming video

CSD Offers Support to Deaf Hurricane Katrina Victims

AUSTIN, Texas and TULSA, Okla ( 9/9/2005)

To ensure that deaf and hard of hearing victims of Hurricane Katrina are not overlooked in recovery efforts, CSD has made resources available to support emergency responders and volunteers of the Red Cross and other organizations working with the evacuees.

CSD of Oklahoma is one of four regional providers of the Community Emergency Preparedness Information Network for Deaf and Hard of Hearing Persons (CEPIN) Project. Providers are contracted by Telecommunications for the Deaf, Inc. (TDI) under a grant received through the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Office for Domestic Preparedness. Texas – in addition to other states in the Midwest and Southwest regions – is served through CSD’s Oklahoma office, as well.

“We are doing everything we can to respond to the requests for assistance that have poured into our office,” said Glenna Cooper, CSD of Oklahoma division director. “Emergency responders are being provided with resources to assist deaf and hard of hearing people and refer them to appropriate resources in a timely manner.”

In Texas, CSD has offered sign language and oral interpreting services to address accessibility and has also made video relay service workstations available.

“CSD’s responsiveness will ease the anxiety of displaced victims as they arrive at an unfamiliar location,” said Mark Seeger, CSD of Texas executive director. “Probably the biggest challenge we face at this point is locating deaf and hard of hearing individuals and determining the type of support services they need. CSD is depending on the deaf community and emergency response personnel to direct and refer victims.”

“All of us at CSD are saddened by the devastation of this natural disaster," said Benjamin Soukup, CSD chief executive officer, “We encourage deaf and hard of hearing individuals and communities everywhere to join CSD in giving with their hearts and reaching out to the victims.”

For information on making donations to assist with relief efforts and for continued updates on how CSD is responding to this crisis, go to CSD’s web site (www.c-s-d.org) or contact CSD of Oklahoma at (918) 835-7445 or CSD of Texas at (512) 428-1801 TTY and (512) 428-1800 Voice.

ABOUT CSD — CSD, Inc. (also known as Communication Service for the Deaf) is a private, nonprofit telecommunications and human services organization. In its 30-year history, CSD has expanded its communication service offerings and currently manages over 20 call centers in the U.S. CSD offers telecommunications relay services, video relay services, equipment distribution programs and sign language interpreting services, in addition to providing human services at 15 locations in eight states.

ABOUT THE CEPIN PROJECT - The U.S. Department of Homeland Security awarded TDI nearly $1.5 million for the two-year CEPIN Project, which focuses on developing model community education programs for deaf and hard of hearing consumers about emergency preparedness. The four homeland security regions are: CSD (Midwest and Southwest regions), DEAF, Inc. (New England and Great Lakes region), Northern Virginia Resource Center (mid-Atlantic and southeastern region), and DCARA (west coast and Hawaii). For more information about the CEPIN Project, please visit www.tdi-online.org/tdi/emergencypreparedness/cepin.htm.

 

[xentra]

I m sure all board device sorensonVRS, D-link and Blackcrow are same !!!
I found Firmware from blackcrow and D-link in server file!! but not find server file from Sorenson VRS!

Want check site file firmware server from I2eye

ftp://ftp.i-2-eye.com/

 

[GalaxyAngel]

I use I2EYES vp... dlink owner.

Love IT...

it works perfectally dlink--sorenson.. peachy!

 

[javapride]

Yes, I have it.

 

[HiBluE01]

Yes, I have it at home.

 

[Mookie]

I m sure all board device sorensonVRS, D-link and Blackcrow are same !!!
I found Firmware from blackcrow and D-link in server file!! but not find server file from Sorenson VRS!

Want check site file firmware server from I2eye

ftp://ftp.i-2-eye.com/

Care to explain Blackcrow?

 

[xentra]

Care to explain Blackcrow?

Hi,
blackcrow videophone has no brand! was end version with 156.
Check blackcrow videophone on site!

http://2getitnow.com/blackcrow_broadband_videophone.html

Xentra

 

[diehardbiker]

Oh yes I remember that one! No one knows what really going on. Probably have to do with legal issues. I know Dlink owns few patents on VP, and that Sorenson had patents added on top of Dlink and had agreement with each other. So, having somebody else stealing patents sure face the lawsuit so perhaps Blackcrow realized and backed off, but again WHO KNOWS? In the early production of these VP, there is NO word of "Patent" or "Patent pending" imprinted on these device. NOW they have printed since then. This Blackcrow was started before Sorenson and Dlink start to print "Patent pending" on their devices.

Hi,
blackcrow videophone has no brand! was end version with 156.
Check blackcrow videophone on site!

http://2getitnow.com/blackcrow_broadband_videophone.html

Xentra

 

[Dennis S.]

Oh yes I remember that one! No one knows what really going on. Probably have to do with legal issues. I know Dlink owns few patents on VP, and that Sorenson had patents added on top of Dlink and had agreement with each other. So, having somebody else stealing patents sure face the lawsuit so perhaps Blackcrow realized and backed off, but again WHO KNOWS? In the early production of these VP, there is NO word of "Patent" or "Patent pending" imprinted on these device. NOW they have printed since then. This Blackcrow was started before Sorenson and Dlink start to print "Patent pending" on their devices.

Incorrect. Blackcrow is a reseller of customized DVC-1000's from D-Link. They cannot customize the software for deaf people, but they can customize the software for hearing people. See the price? That's the markup that you need to customize a D-Link -- instead of $159 for a silver D-Link, you have to pay more to get a custom Blackcrow. They only come in 2 colors -- silver and black. You can't get any more options on the outside.

The hardware on the inside is the SAME as a D-Link or VP-100.

 

[xentra]

Oh yes I remember that one! No one knows what really going on. Probably have to do with legal issues. I know Dlink owns few patents on VP, and that Sorenson had patents added on top of Dlink and had agreement with each other. So, having somebody else stealing patents sure face the lawsuit so perhaps Blackcrow realized and backed off, but again WHO KNOWS? In the early production of these VP, there is NO word of "Patent" or "Patent pending" imprinted on these device. NOW they have printed since then. This Blackcrow was started before Sorenson and Dlink start to print "Patent pending" on their devices.

Blackcrow is no brand name yet! So they build firmware last version was stop by 4/27/2004 (I guess they engineer give it up!)
That my favorty end with 156 perfect smoooth!
that i have 7 blackcrow been sold 5 and keep 2 for our family

VERSION=3.0.1.156
UPDATE_SERVER=ftp.i-2-eye.com
UPDATE_FILE=/NonBrand-NTSC/KauriCore.cmp
APP_LDR_VERSION=1.0.300.101
APP_LDR_SERVER=ftp.i-2-eye.com
APP_LDR_FILE=/DVC-1000-NTSC/AppLoaderCore.cmp

 

[NightwarriorJin]

can you explain the difference between i2eye and blackcrow? better compression? or what? Pls explain

 

[Dennis S.]

can you explain the difference between i2eye and blackcrow? better compression? or what? Pls explain

Jin, there IS no difference -- some company purchased a run of OEM DVC-1000's from D-Link. They told them to customize it by not putting ANY markings on the outside, probably to save money. You can only buy two mold colors from D-Link -- Black or Silver. That's why no one has seen a white or blue or red videophone.

They should have the same level of firmware, since it's exactly like a DVC-1000 the day it was created.