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Shit, this thread has gone to every tangent imaginable. First its about whether book learning is worth it or not, then it goes on for several pages about kokonuts supposed acceptance letter to a Ph.D program, and now we are discussing advertising tactics?
Here is my opinion on all matters discussed:
1. I believe that book learning is just as important as experience. It's impossible to experience everything, you don't have time to make all the mistakes, and therefore you must read of other people's mistakes in books. Like all things - in order to have a well rounded education, one must make a well-rounded approach to that learning to receive the education. Books, common sense, and experience is much more effective at teaching if they are done together, not independently.
IE - Tyson foods requires all applicants for a supervisory position to hold a 4 year Bachelor Degree, Poultry Sciences preferred but not a required major. My take on it is this, you can take every course possible on poultry science and learn about the structure, biology, and whatnots of chickens, BUT all of that is completely worthless if you can't apply that knowledge to Evis, or Deboning or, even raising broilers or layers. You also will have trouble earning the respect of your employees if you can't process a chicken yourself, so maybe a good 5 years exp in poultry processing on the line is great experience, you know your chicken from the processing standpoint. And you have got to have people skills as a supervisor, if you can't mediate a dispute between two hotheaded people, or if you can't handle a worker cussing you from one end to the other, your going to be a door mat at best.
2. As for kokonut's claim of an acceptance into a Ph.D program but refused the offer on the grounds of "better things", but yet cannot fully and accurately describe the Ph.D application process nor keep his stories straight, as well as avoidance of questions only leave me suspicious rather than having my couriosity fullfilled.
3. As for advertising tactics, all advertisers omit the bad things about their products, or don't tell the entire truth about their products as a way to lure buyers, if you also notice certain products or services are advertised during certain times of days and/or on certain days to reach a target audience. Also it is common knowledge that advertisers use empty phrases that sound all positive such as "New and Improved", and "Popular" or "Recommended by Dentists" to get people to think the product is really good. This way it has the same effect as "Recommended by the American Dental Association", without actually having to get the approval or recommendation by the American Dental Association" Just using "Recommended by Dentists" pretty much says any dentist, even a shade tree dentist will recommend this toothpasts even though studies show that this product may actually be harmful for your teeth.
This is why we see a lot of products such as "Juicy Fruit" but when you read the package closely in fine print it says something like "Not made from fruit juice" and the first ingredient listed on the back is usually high fructose corn syrup, sugar, and/or dextrose.
Not false advertising but it comes pretty damn close. Companies always look for a loophole to get through to increase advertising while increasing sales as well.
Here is my opinion on all matters discussed:
1. I believe that book learning is just as important as experience. It's impossible to experience everything, you don't have time to make all the mistakes, and therefore you must read of other people's mistakes in books. Like all things - in order to have a well rounded education, one must make a well-rounded approach to that learning to receive the education. Books, common sense, and experience is much more effective at teaching if they are done together, not independently.
IE - Tyson foods requires all applicants for a supervisory position to hold a 4 year Bachelor Degree, Poultry Sciences preferred but not a required major. My take on it is this, you can take every course possible on poultry science and learn about the structure, biology, and whatnots of chickens, BUT all of that is completely worthless if you can't apply that knowledge to Evis, or Deboning or, even raising broilers or layers. You also will have trouble earning the respect of your employees if you can't process a chicken yourself, so maybe a good 5 years exp in poultry processing on the line is great experience, you know your chicken from the processing standpoint. And you have got to have people skills as a supervisor, if you can't mediate a dispute between two hotheaded people, or if you can't handle a worker cussing you from one end to the other, your going to be a door mat at best.
2. As for kokonut's claim of an acceptance into a Ph.D program but refused the offer on the grounds of "better things", but yet cannot fully and accurately describe the Ph.D application process nor keep his stories straight, as well as avoidance of questions only leave me suspicious rather than having my couriosity fullfilled.
3. As for advertising tactics, all advertisers omit the bad things about their products, or don't tell the entire truth about their products as a way to lure buyers, if you also notice certain products or services are advertised during certain times of days and/or on certain days to reach a target audience. Also it is common knowledge that advertisers use empty phrases that sound all positive such as "New and Improved", and "Popular" or "Recommended by Dentists" to get people to think the product is really good. This way it has the same effect as "Recommended by the American Dental Association", without actually having to get the approval or recommendation by the American Dental Association" Just using "Recommended by Dentists" pretty much says any dentist, even a shade tree dentist will recommend this toothpasts even though studies show that this product may actually be harmful for your teeth.
This is why we see a lot of products such as "Juicy Fruit" but when you read the package closely in fine print it says something like "Not made from fruit juice" and the first ingredient listed on the back is usually high fructose corn syrup, sugar, and/or dextrose.
Not false advertising but it comes pretty damn close. Companies always look for a loophole to get through to increase advertising while increasing sales as well.
