Deaf people not well served by Liberals

dreama said:
I lead a vegan and drug free lifestyle. I've never bought porno in my life and I don't even own a TV never mind a DVD. I'm not poor. You get quite generous benifit money for being deafblind actually but it goes on my furry family members, organic food, and tecnology etc... I save money on clothes as they are not important to me. I know what you are saying about wanting respect from hearies and all that but you can't expect everyone to shop at expensive places because people have differant priorites.

Plus if someone is only interested in those wearing posh clothes I am not interested in getting their respect.
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I think some of people here misunderstood my comments about the importance of the apperence... I never say IT DOES INCLUDE EXPENSIVE STUFF... It only stay neat, got class, better manner, know how to talk right, mature, and respectful to others. That is the apperence. That is what many deaf people LACK of that apperence which is why many hearing people look down at them because of that. I learned that in hard way and I plan to keep my apperence for the rest of my life to continue to have the respect from them.
 
MetroGuy03 said:
One more thing...

If you deaf people want to get some respect from hearing people... You deaf people have to work on your apperances seriously... I noticed that made huge difference... For example, few years ago, I only wore blue jean with baggy t-shirt with baggy jacket. It was for my own comfortable level... No one pay me respects but only deaf people because they just accept each other for who they are... I decided to change the way I dress... I bought clothes from ExpressMen, GAP, Banana Republic, D&G, Abercrombie & Fitch, American Eagle, Nordstroms and Macys... I got alot of respects from hearing people. Also some of you deaf people need to stop saying "DEAF POWER!" that turned so many hearing people off. Try to be level with hearing people just get them to respect you deaf people. Also work hard to prove them wrong and prove yourself that you can do it! It is alot of work but worth it.
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Yeah, there's a solution. Just become as much like the hearing people as you can on the surface. Look like them, act like them, and maybe (please God) they will like me! Respect is earned by who you are, not what you look like. And I'm hearing, but will say it anyway, DEAF POWER!
 
jillio said:
Yeah, there's a solution. Just become as much like the hearing people as you can on the surface. Look like them, act like them, and maybe (please God) they will like me! Respect is earned by who you are, not what you look like. And I'm hearing, but will say it anyway, DEAF POWER!
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LOL! In my experiences, many uneducated hearing people don't give a damn about deaf people until they have to deal with them for career reasons, meetings, social events, family relatives, and though from their friends' friends that heppen to be deaf. First thing hearing people will immediatly pass the judgement based on the looks... If they accepts them then they will become curious about deaf people and get know them better... They will be surprised that deaf people can do everything but hear. Many hearing people do look down at another hearing people based on the apperances too.

A while ago, before some of my hearing friends and I became close friends... When we first met... They never met a deaf person before since they thought deaf people are "special education" since they havent' been educated about them. They even thought I am dumb too. I proved them wrong and got alot of respect from them. Now they are familiar with deaf culture and ASL... Now they're more friendlier to deaf people more than they did before. However, they apolopized to me for misjudged me without know me first.
 
It doesn't matter if you're deaf or hearing. There have been studies that show that people who look "better" are treated better. Whether it's just clothes or style or physical looks (body type, hair style, etc.)
 
vrsterp said:
It doesn't matter if you're deaf or hearing. There have been studies that show that people who look "better" are treated better. Whether it's just clothes or style or physical looks (body type, hair style, etc.)
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I agree.
 
vrsterp said:
It doesn't matter if you're deaf or hearing. There have been studies that show that people who look "better" are treated better. Whether it's just clothes or style or physical looks (body type, hair style, etc.)
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Yea..Hollywood is a such a perfect and powerful example of that.

I know about dressing nice for professional or jobs is a must in order to get respect for jobs. However, it is up to people if they want to impress people outside of their jobs. I dont dress like a bum but I wont dress up to impress people that arent important to me. I dont have time for it..:giggle:
 
It doesn't matter if you're deaf or hearing. There have been studies that show that people who look "better" are treated better. Whether it's just clothes or style or physical looks (body type, hair style, etc.)
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I totally agree. And you know what ticks me off - people try to say that "it's not the outside that matters, its the inside that matters." What they fail to realize is that their outside DOES matter - it often reflects their inside.

For example, a fat person often means he's unhealthy and depressed and does not care about his health. A person who does not dress well often reflects his chaos. A person who does not brush his teeth often indicates his poor structure. The quailty of clothes he wear often reflects his income.

Even skin color makes a difference. Studies show that people tend to respond better to people who are light skinned than to dark skinned people, even in the black countries. That is unfortunate.

Some people argue that it's all a social construct but I am not sure if that's accurate. I suspect there is a biological reason for racial preferences. For example, in the animal kingdom, animals do select their mates based on their appearances and they were clearly not influenced by social constructs.
 
MetroGuy03 said:
LOL! In my experiences, many uneducated hearing people don't give a damn about deaf people until they have to deal with them for career reasons, meetings, social events, family relatives, and though from their friends' friends that heppen to be deaf. First thing hearing people will immediatly pass the judgement based on the looks... If they accepts them then they will become curious about deaf people and get know them better... They will be surprised that deaf people can do everything but hear. Many hearing people do look down at another hearing people based on the apperances too.
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Well, I think it's more like they don't think about deaf people, not that they don't care. It's just not considered. And to be fair--we all, to some extent--don't think about people who're different until we know one or have someone close to us who is that way.

And yes--many people look down on others for their appearance, but that's probably deaf and hearing alike.

I think it stems from most hearing people thinking superficially: "I'd hate not hearing! My life would be over!" That kind of thinking. People sometimes actually say they'd rather be blind then deaf. Hell, I'd rather be be deaf than balding, I think. :D

Is it wrong, by the way, that I'll sometimes pretend to be deaf? ;) Sometimes in a store, talking with my brother, at the check out they just assume I'm deaf and I let them because I don't want to bother with chitchat.
 
netrox said:
I totally agree. And you know what ticks me off - people try to say that "it's not the outside that matters, its the inside that matters." What they fail to realize is that their outside DOES matter - it often reflects their inside.

For example, a fat person often means he's unhealthy and depressed and does not care about his health. A person who does not dress well often reflects his chaos. A person who does not brush his teeth often indicates his poor structure. The quailty of clothes he wear often reflects his income.

Even skin color makes a difference. Studies show that people tend to respond better to people who are light skinned than to dark skinned people, even in the black countries. That is unfortunate.

Some people argue that it's all a social construct but I am not sure if that's accurate. I suspect there is a biological reason for racial preferences. For example, in the animal kingdom, animals do select their mates based on their appearances and they were clearly not influenced by social constructs.
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I'm completely agree with you!!!
 
Capmeister said:
Well, I think it's more like they don't think about deaf people, not that they don't care. It's just not considered. And to be fair--we all, to some extent--don't think about people who're different until we know one or have someone close to us who is that way.

And yes--many people look down on others for their appearance, but that's probably deaf and hearing alike.

I think it stems from most hearing people thinking superficially: "I'd hate not hearing! My life would be over!" That kind of thinking. People sometimes actually say they'd rather be blind then deaf. Hell, I'd rather be be deaf than balding, I think. :D

Is it wrong, by the way, that I'll sometimes pretend to be deaf? ;) Sometimes in a store, talking with my brother, at the check out they just assume I'm deaf and I let them because I don't want to bother with chitchat.
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Very true! Funny thing some of my hearing friends do that all the time just get away from some people that they dont' want to deal with it.
 
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