College presidents want lower drinking age

[Foxrac]

In 1970's, our NJ state allowed 18 years old to drink. I dislike to drink beer or anything. I know some of my friends were 14, 15 or 16 years old, they drank beer or anything.
I went to Seattle. Washington State allowed 21 years old to drink.

In early 80's, they changed law. All states do not allow to drink for under 21.

If, they will change to age 18. Then, many under age will get beer or anything from his/her friends who are 18 years

I prefer to stay 21 years old or go to jail.

Well, some states are allowed 18 years old to drink but illegal to purchase at store until 21 for all states but consumption of drink are up to states.
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There's alot of high school students are party and drink, I had been here and had fun.

 

[Foxrac]

I, too, agree with lowering the drinking age. They say at 21, you're mature than being at 18. Well, guess what? That's full of crock. It doesn't matter how old you are. There are 21 years olds out there who are also immature and there's also some mature 18 year olds out there as well. If you are to drink, you just have to be responsible about it. Maturity comes in play when you drink responsibly.

Yup, got agree with you.

Same goes with Vampy.

 

[VamPyroX]

I think without legalizing 18 to be the consent to drink and without the effect on high school drinking, the military should let the enlisted person who is 18 to drink included in part of the benefit for serving his/her country. After several months of training and accepted into the service, the 18 years old can drink. But they should limited on how much they should drink.

If 18 want to buy drink, they should show proof of military/army id. On the id it should show how many beer he/she should have.

It is not necessary to make the law allowing 18 to be legal age to drink. If it does, then it will have bad effect on all of the teenager in high school. Remember, high school is all about being popular, cool, peer pressure, socializing, and studying.

Failing grades, mischief, and causing accident will not help them achieve their education or their dream.

It's actually harder to drink when in high school. They are still under the care of their parents.

When they turn 18 and graduate high school, then they're free to leave home. If they're allowed to leave home to be on their own, then they should also be allowed to drink.

With the current law, they can leave home and get away with it by finding a friend who is 21 to buy alcohol for them. This gives them the thrill of drinking underage. However, if we lower the drinking age to 18... we take away that thrill.

Current Law...

Kid #1: "Hey, guess what..." *holding a bottle of beer* "I've got beer Ain't that so cool!?"

Kid #2: "Why is that?"

Kid #1: "I'm only 19 years old!"

Kid #2: "Whoa, you're crazy man! Hahaha! You're awesome!"

New Law...

Kid #1: "Hey, guess what..." *holding a bottle of beer* "I've got beer! Ain't that so cool?"

Kid #2: "Why is that?"

Kid #1: "Err... umm... I'm only 19 years old."

Kid #2: "So? I'm only 18 and I got beer too. So what?"

Kid #1: "Never mind..." *walks away*

 

[PowerON]

I think 19 would be better to avoid to have someone from high school to bring.

 

[darkage]

There's alot of high school students are party and drink, I had been here and had fun.

My twin sons split two different college at U of Delaware and Rutgers in New Brunswick. They said that freshmen students are drunk for 24/7. One kid almost dead from overdose hard drink. U of Delaware expelled freshman student from his dorm's floor.

My son told me about his best friend Jamie. I can't believe to hear my son's story. Jamie let my son to punch his best friend's face if he drink beer.

He was heavy drink beer when he was 16 years old. He was captain in HS football team. In college, he did not doing well at U of Delaware. He lost scholarship and not make football team. 2nd year student, he got lower GPA. They do not let him stay in college. That's sad for my son's best friend. He was foolish around to drink ruin his school work/college football. Right now, he works at TGIF restaurant. He is almost 22 years old.

Yesterday, Jamie visited my house. He does not hate my son.

If, legal to drink at age 18 then grow many 15 or younger than age 15 to start drink.

 

[Foxrac]

My twin sons split two different college at U of Delaware and Rutgers in New Brunswick. They said that freshmen students are drunk for 24/7. One kid almost dead from overdose hard drink. U of Delaware expelled freshman student from his dorm's floor.

My son told me about his best friend Jamie. I can't believe to hear my son's story. Jamie let my son to punch his best friend's face if he drink beer.

He was heavy drink beer when he was 16 years old. He was captain in HS football team. In college, he did not doing well at U of Delaware. He lost scholarship and not make football team. 2nd year student, he got lower GPA. They do not let him stay in college. That's sad for my son's best friend. He was foolish around to drink ruin his school work/college football. Right now, he works at TGIF restaurant. He is almost 22 years old.

Yesterday, Jamie visited my house. He does not hate my son.

If, legal to drink at age 18 then grow many 15 or younger than age 15 to start drink.

I went to other party with young students, some are 9th and 10th grade since rest of them are mixed of 11th and 12th, I was really surprised that 14 years old guy do smoke and drink during party time, it was back in 2005 when I was in 12th.

 

[Chase]

If they can enlist in the military and die for our country at age 18 --they should lower the drinking age.

Nothing against you personally, Byrdie, just the argument put forth. It's been around a long time, as I remember it from debate class in junior high.

The rebuttals remains true to this day. Teenagers in the military have very little free will. They are very much under the supervision of their superiors and are following orders. The second part of that is they are allowed to drink on-post at the enlisted men's and women's clubs.

Just sayin' the argument doesn't hold much water . . . er . . . um . . . beer. Whatever.

 

[Byrdie714]

Nothing against you personally, Byrdie, just the argument put forth. It's been around a long time, as I remember it from debate class in junior high.

The rebuttals remains true to this day. Teenagers in the military have very little free will. They are very much under the supervision of their superiors and are following orders. The second part of that is they are allowed to drink on-post at the enlisted men's and women's clubs.

Just sayin' the argument doesn't hold much water . . . er . . . um . . . beer. Whatever.

Then don't you think they should be exempted from this law--on or off base?

 

[pek1]

Well, I know that many young people can't hold their liquor, so why not let them think they have the world by the tail and let them drink. That way, when they slam into someone, so drunk that they can't stand up, arrest them and charge them as adults with first degree murder instead of another charge. If they're old enough to think they can drink, let them. Just one thing: If they're killed, their families will be legally held accountable, including being arrested, convicted and sued up the wahzoo. Is that $4.50 glass of beer worth sending your family to jail if you're killed, just because you wanted to be the big person and drink? Keep your apologies, as the victims don't want to hear it from a drunk or his/her family.

By the way, in Minnesota the people convicted of drunk driving have to have a special license plate on all the vehicles that person owns and they can be stopped at any time by the police to be tested. On New Year's Day, I was hit by one of those cars and, needless to say, I made him pay for the damages done to my van. His insurance company contacted me because the couldn't get in touch with their insured to obtain the police report. Typical drunkard. :roll:

 

[Dixie]

Pete are you talking about those pink license plates?

 

[Liza]

The drinking age in Norway is 18. Food.. err, beer for thoughts.

 

[CCfan]

I agree with lowering the drinking age.

When I was at RIT, it was usually students under 21 who bragged about drinking. When I was a RA, I had to deal with a lot of students who were drunk. When I asked them why they were drinking, the most common response was that they wanted to be as cool as those who are able to drink.

Well, if they are able to drink themselves... then there's no competition for being "cool".

I don't care if they lower their age to 18 from 21. But... what about gambling?! I don't drink alcohol, but only I tried a new alcohol like
Bloody Mary, it's not bad. But beer is worst for me. Wine too, but I prefer
alcoholic-free in wine!
I live in Minnesota they still 18 at the casino and all gambling types in
Minnesota. I went down to the casino when I was 18. Lucky for me! It won't concerned for me. Thanks Goodness I was 19 or 20 while I don't live in Arizona that they
changed from 18 to 21 in 2003 for gambling age. What a shame for Arizona law!
I am now 23. I don't care if gambling raising age someday in our hometown because I already turn in 23 and that won't affect me!

 

[CCfan]

Civil Rights, so I am go for it!

I agree with you. I call these names for Contest rules, drink an alcohol, gambling and (prostitution is legal in NV) are 21 are bull****! :bsflag:
They should to lower the age of 18!

 

[CCfan]

If they can enlist in the military and die for our country at age 18 --they should lower the drinking age.

Good idea! I hope too much 18-20 would be already die in the war then legal
age for gambling, drink, contest rules, and (N.V. prostitution is legal).

 

[CrzyMeg]

I agree with you. I call these names for Contest rules, drink an alcohol, gambling and (prostitution is legal in NV) are 21 are bull****! :bsflag:
They should to lower the age of 18!

But i dont agreed with you at all. Some of our body not mature enough to handle the alcohol in body.

 

[Hwy99]

I agree with you. I call these names for Contest rules, drink an alcohol, gambling and (prostitution is legal in NV) are 21 are bull****! :bsflag:
They should to lower the age of 18!

Yupp agree, the alcohol, gambling, and prostitution have absolute nothing to do with the governments, evenually the age JMO, but too bad that some of the people abused it by too much care or too much trouble..

 

[Chase]

Then don't you think they should be exempted from this law--on or off base?

No, I don't, and my objection is the whole point.

Off-base, they may be under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (rules and regulations) but they are not supervised. It's the greatest reason so many kids in the military get into more trouble than their older comrades-in-arms. As a result, they have more Article 15s (company punishment), court martials, stockade time, bad-conduct discharges, and worse.

Mature judgment may not automatically come with being 20, but it certainly seems scarce in the teens.

 

[pek1]

Pete are you talking about those pink license plates?

No, Dixie. They use the old plates, which are raised letters and numbers; blue on a white background. The first letter begins with a "W." Now, now, don't crack a George Bush joke, it's true, that letter is used.

 

[dead money]

in europe most countries drinking age is 16-18. And since its so standard people grow up and its not a big deal. Here we get through high school and college and its illegal and exciting so what are kids gonna do? Theyre gonna say fuck you and do it. You lower the age and people dont give it the credentials it used to have and it just becomes more of a case of hey i can drink, yay. I know when i was high school i used to steal beer, go to keg parties, look for every opportuntity to get away with it. When i finally turned 21 it wasnt a big deal at all, probaly got more boring if anything. So lowering it makes sense. Theyre gonna get their hands on it one way or another keeping it at 21 anyway.

 

[pek1]

in europe most countries drinking age is 16-18. And since its so standard people grow up and its not a big deal. Here we get through high school and college and its illegal and exciting so what are kids gonna do? Theyre gonna say fuck you and do it. You lower the age and people dont give it the credentials it used to have and it just becomes more of a case of hey i can drink, yay. I know when i was high school i used to steal beer, go to keg parties, look for every opportuntity to get away with it. When i finally turned 21 it wasnt a big deal at all, probaly got more boring if anything. So lowering it makes sense. Theyre gonna get their hands on it one way or another keeping it at 21 anyway.

That may be true, dead money, but to be equally pragmatic, if a person that young slams into my vehicle after drinking way more than he or she should have, AND WE BOTH LIVE, do most people that age have enough money to stand being sued for every cent they and their parents have? The guy who hit me New Year's Day, I have to say, I very quickly cleaned him up and his insurance company even paid for the rental car. If you can afford to drink and drive, you can afford to pay ALL the consequences. That $4.50 glass of beer just went up, costing well over
$15,000 USD: Was it worth it?