Canadian woman loses her baby, dignity while awaiting hospital treatment

I'm with you on that. I don't know why that made news or was even posted on AD - I think it's some local news or something. I feel for the women who have miscarriages (I had one, so I know), but it isn't worthy of making the news, other than that the ER's staff didn't practice very good care.
 
It is disgraceful that it had to happen to the woman who lost her baby. If the hospital where she was trying to wait with dignity must be a big city hospital. It depend how many people live in the big city. We have too many people all over the world and it is becoming crowded and it has become a disaster for people who need help very badly with not enough doctors and nurses. If the doctor is ignoring her because he does not take the time to help her when needed in crisis, he should be there whether the woman miscarry or not. He should never ignore her no matter what including the nurses too.

But now it is just too many patients who need help, so it is a shame that everyone has to suffer the wait until their turn.

If the woman had live in a small town or village, then the wait would be like half an hour or an hour. It is still a waiting game that we have to go through whether it is longer than an hour or 4 hours or 8 hours right in the small town. There is nothing we can do when that happen. I would surely like the woman to sue Queen Elizabeth hospital for being ignoring her and make her wait for long period of time. She need to get help pronto. :mad:
 
Unfortunately I have heard of stories like this in Australia. One woman, while waiting to be seen by a doctor, went to the toilet and miscarriaged in it.
 
Is that common ER service for Canadian health care? Or was it a fluke?
 
Reba said:
Is that common ER service for Canadian health care? Or was it a fluke?
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I've only seen one that was in the ER for hours. I went in to get my bronchitis treated after having it for three months, mom made me go-- I refused to every time everyone else tried to get me to go to the ER. The woman was having a miscarriage in the ER; the nurses and doctors keep saying there's nothing they can do and that she needs to go home, and seek a counseler or a support group. She insisted on staying, even after she lost her baby because she wanted the emotional support from the staff. I was only there for three hours. She was there for about sixteen hours. It was very messed up. Every thirty minutes to half hour, they just walk up to her and tell her there's nothing they can do, and that she need to go home.

i haven't heard of a case where a woman is left to bleed in the ER, but I do know that before a certain week, they just tell the women to go home and seek some mental care. After a certain week, they're usually the first one to be admitted in the ER, if there's no elderly waiting prior. That's why I am not sure it made the news, because my American friends say that doctors do the same thing in the States if the mothers don't have a decent enough insurance or high-income.
 
PowerON said:
I'm confuse. I read that article that said they did attend in ER and been wait for 3 hours. WTF?
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It's not the government's, or the staff's fault for the long-wait times. It's the taxpayers' lack of self-responsibility. I have known people who went to the ER over a snubbed toe just because they wanted painkillers, even though they would be refused; I have known PARENTS that take their kids to the ER for toothaches and LOOSE teeth because they couldn't pull out the loose tooth by themselves. So it's people like that who make the wait-times too long. At least the elderly knows better than to go to the ER over every nicks and bruises.
 
And this is what we have to look forward to in the U.S. Nice
 
souggy said:
Surprised that made the news. The miscarriages I've heard about, doctors usually just send them home to lessen the wait times for other patients.
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Yep. That happens in the U.S., as well. If a miscarraige is imminent, there is nothing a doctor or health care provider can do.
 
PowerON said:
I'm confuse. I read that article that said they did attend in ER and been wait for 3 hours. WTF?
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During flu season, or if the ER has just been inundated with victims from some sort of accident, the wait in the U.S. can be even longer than that when the person in the ER is not suffering from something that is life threatening.
 
souggy said:
It's not the government's, or the staff's fault for the long-wait times. It's the taxpayers' lack of self-responsibility. I have known people who went to the ER over a snubbed toe just because they wanted painkillers, even though they would be refused; I have known PARENTS that take their kids to the ER for toothaches and LOOSE teeth because they couldn't pull out the loose tooth by themselves. So it's people like that who make the wait-times too long. At least the elderly knows better than to go to the ER over every nicks and bruises.
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Bingo. And in the U.S. one of the problems is the uninsured who can only get care by going to the ERm, whether they have a medical emergency or not.
 
In souggy's example, too many people show up at ER's because they DO have insurance coverage that will pay for every minor pain and injury.

In jillio's example, too many people show up at ER's because they DON'T have insurance coverage and that's the only way they can get treatment.

So it doesn't matter whether or not people have insurance coverage, too many people show up at the ER regardless.
 
Reba said:
In souggy's example, too many people show up at ER's because they DO have insurance coverage that will pay for every minor pain and injury.

In jillio's example, too many people show up at ER's because they DON'T have insurance coverage and that's the only way they can get treatment.

So it doesn't matter whether or not people have insurance coverage, too many people show up at the ER regardless.
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The last quote with the bold is I agree with you whether they have insurance or not. :(
 
Actually this happens ALOT in canada...its sad to say when health care is free people go in for a cold and some sniffles while some ppl are bleeding from their heads...Needless to say I'd rather have to pay to get the health care I want...I mean it's fine and great but our wait times for specialists, ER, etc etc are ridiculous because every tom dick and harry is going in with stupid symptoms...go to a clinic..the only time I go to a ER is if i've badly injured myself to the point I can't move a body part or I'm profusely bleeding or its asthma related...I had pneumonia when I was a kid and almost stopped breathing and I waited 8 hours in the ER and that was in the waiting room just to get into see a doctor...our ER wait times are disgusting to say the least and I wish it were a bit different
 
AliciaM said:
Actually this happens ALOT in canada...its sad to say when health care is free people go in for a cold and some sniffles while some ppl are bleeding from their heads...Needless to say I'd rather have to pay to get the health care I want...I mean it's fine and great but our wait times for specialists, ER, etc etc are ridiculous because every tom dick and harry is going in with stupid symptoms...go to a clinic..the only time I go to a ER is if i've badly injured myself to the point I can't move a body part or I'm profusely bleeding or its asthma related...I had pneumonia when I was a kid and almost stopped breathing and I waited 8 hours in the ER and that was in the waiting room just to get into see a doctor...our ER wait times are disgusting to say the least and I wish it were a bit different
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Ontario doesn't use a triage system?

Usually people who are bleeding (if it's not just a small cut or easily preventable), are elderly or small children are attended to first before everyone else.
 
Reba said:
In souggy's example, too many people show up at ER's because they DO have insurance coverage that will pay for every minor pain and injury.

In jillio's example, too many people show up at ER's because they DON'T have insurance coverage and that's the only way they can get treatment.

So it doesn't matter whether or not people have insurance coverage, too many people show up at the ER regardless.[/QUOTE]

True enough. So we really can't blame the ER staff for being overwhelmed with people showing up for minor situations, nor can we blame any health care system for it.
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Ive worked in the ER doing my EMT clinicals and we had 2 patients come in during a 12 hour shift faking pain symptoms just to get the attending doctor to prescribe them narcotic painkillers. Needless to say we picked up on it rather quickly, gave them some Tylenol and sent them home and told them to take it easy for the next few days.

We use the triage system here, the very young, the very old, and the most serious life-threatening cases were seen first. Like the 26 year old with 2nd degree burns and respiratory distress took priority over the 34 year old that's fallen off his roof and broken his leg and is in a traction splint and screaming in pain. The 26 year old also took priority over the 19 y/o pregnant female that is at 30 weeks complaining of severe back pain but her water has not broken. It seems sad and all but when you triage you have to quickly evaluate everyone and take the most urgent cases first. JMHO.
 
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