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whatdidyousay! said:
My friend was a hearing person and I know other people with hearing that had tinnitus . It has nothing to with deaf or hoh. I get it too , I will wake up with it. when I got knocked out cold in my car accident I got head noises and it was horrible.
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Mine isn't as bad as some peoples. Makes it hard to fall asleep some times. My sympathies to people who have it bad, i've been told it can be horrible like you say.
 
Well just to throw it out there, a doctors job is to be a pessimist. Just saying... I know quite a few, and that's what they tell me! lol!

On another note, no doctor can predict the future... just doesn't happen. They are making an educated guess to the best of their ability given the data and results they receive from tests and talking to you. They are doctors, not freaking psychics. To make a guess on something and tell you this in such a tight knit time frame of the age 30 - 31 and this on top of it being 14 years or so down the road is a bit far fetched. If a doctor or certified medical personnel member tells you a time frame, it's never that long. the LONGEST time frame I've ever seen given on a guess was 3 - 5 years, and that was on life expectancy, not something like hearing. Life expectancy yes, they'll try and time it based on a VITAL organ or whatever failing, but something as minor as hearing... a 14 year or so expectancy? I'm sorry, I just can't believe it. ( I'm a Paramedic so yes, I work with a LOT of doctors )

Most doctors would not tell you an age limit on when you were going to go deaf... I saw MANY doctors when I began losing my hearing, and while all of their opinions were similar and some different, not ONE single doctor told me a time frame, and wouldn't. They would say, "it could be tomorrow, it could be 10 years, it could be never, everyone is different..." which is true and I understood that.

To throw on top of the matter, I'd make sure you're not speaking to just "any old doctor" and speaking to an audiologist, ENT and possibly another kind of specialist. Someone who's just is specifically hearing... Doctors are for general stuff, they're usually not specialists unless you seek said specialist.

It sucks about tinnitus... it's a terrible thing to have, and yet pretty common. I recommend seeing a different doctor if this story is the truth... because this doctor you're seeing seems off his game, or just stupid... Whichever you prefer. Not trying to be mean, but it's either 1) your doctor needs to go back to medical school 2) your doctor needs some more training 3) This is not the case. So if this is your case, seek a medical professional, and someone who has experience in this...

Also as Bott said, lots of people have it and never go deaf or lose hearing... so why would something that so often never effects hearing have a time stamp of 14 years or so placed on it by a doctor? Makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

Again, my condolences to you and the tinnitus, it can be annoying, but it's not life ending... and there's a good chance it won't effect anything with your hearing.
 
it unlikely dr would word it like that,they normally say 'in my opinion'nobody can give you an answer based upon tinnitus only,
lots of things can cause it or nothing at all so dr got to exclude other conditions e.g over active thyroid,different medications etc.then do m.r.i and other test on ears in meantime use one of the many aids to mask it.then get second opinion
 
Jessa6625 said:
I have learned that I will be going deaf in a few years. Since I already have tinnitus, my doctor will think I am going deaf around 30 or 31. At 17 and learning I am going to lose it around then, is not something I want to think about.
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I wouldn't stick by those numbers. There is no telling when you would exactly lose it. And, technology has gotten so good there is a chance there might be a cure or something new by that time.

I'm sorry you are going through this, it can be tough.

Still, it's not the end of your life or anything. It will be different, but that's about it. You can still do things and have good times, it's not all bad.

You'll be fine..
 
Phoenix23 said:
Well just to throw it out there, a doctors job is to be a pessimist. Just saying... I know quite a few, and that's what they tell me! lol!

On another note, no doctor can predict the future... just doesn't happen. They are making an educated guess to the best of their ability given the data and results they receive from tests and talking to you. They are doctors, not freaking psychics. To make a guess on something and tell you this in such a tight knit time frame of the age 30 - 31 and this on top of it being 14 years or so down the road is a bit far fetched. If a doctor or certified medical personnel member tells you a time frame, it's never that long. the LONGEST time frame I've ever seen given on a guess was 3 - 5 years, and that was on life expectancy, not something like hearing. Life expectancy yes, they'll try and time it based on a VITAL organ or whatever failing, but something as minor as hearing... a 14 year or so expectancy? I'm sorry, I just can't believe it. ( I'm a Paramedic so yes, I work with a LOT of doctors )

Most doctors would not tell you an age limit on when you were going to go deaf... I saw MANY doctors when I began losing my hearing, and while all of their opinions were similar and some different, not ONE single doctor told me a time frame, and wouldn't. They would say, "it could be tomorrow, it could be 10 years, it could be never, everyone is different..." which is true and I understood that.

To throw on top of the matter, I'd make sure you're not speaking to just "any old doctor" and speaking to an audiologist, ENT and possibly another kind of specialist. Someone who's just is specifically hearing... Doctors are for general stuff, they're usually not specialists unless you seek said specialist.

It sucks about tinnitus... it's a terrible thing to have, and yet pretty common. I recommend seeing a different doctor if this story is the truth... because this doctor you're seeing seems off his game, or just stupid... Whichever you prefer. Not trying to be mean, but it's either 1) your doctor needs to go back to medical school 2) your doctor needs some more training 3) This is not the case. So if this is your case, seek a medical professional, and someone who has experience in this...

Also as Bott said, lots of people have it and never go deaf or lose hearing... so why would something that so often never effects hearing have a time stamp of 14 years or so placed on it by a doctor? Makes absolutely no sense to me at all.

Again, my condolences to you and the tinnitus, it can be annoying, but it's not life ending... and there's a good chance it won't effect anything with your hearing.
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A Dr. told my dad he would be dead x numbers of years, my dad outlived the DR. My friend hearing was effected by having tinnitus . She had is so bad it made her dizzy . Some people get it worst than other people. Some people try biofeedback to help deal the ringing. I use this to help with my TMJ and it did help with the pain.
 
Check with Dentist, sometimes jaws being dislocated can cause tinnitus.

And Jiro is correct, Tinnitus does not cause Deafness.
 
Yes, Menieres disease definitely effects hearing, that's fairly common. However, tinnitus... that's just not. Like I said, the whole thing seems just sketchy to me at best... but that's my personal opinion. Maybe I'm just a jerk. =P Hehe
 
Tinnitus can be the result of hearing loss. It doesn't cause it itself. I've had it all my life, 24 hours a day, but I have progressive hearing loss so now the only noise is what is in my head, usually. And holy **** does it screw with me during my ketamine treatments. It's not actually a sound I can hear with my ears anymore.
 
Phoenix23 said:
Yes, Menieres disease definitely effects hearing, that's fairly common. However, tinnitus... that's just not. Like I said, the whole thing seems just sketchy to me at best... but that's my personal opinion. Maybe I'm just a jerk. =P Hehe
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I can see why you think the whole thing is sketchy , I think it unusual for a doctor to come right out any say to a person they'll be deaf in a few years .
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I can see why you think the whole thing is sketchy , I think it unusual for a doctor to come right out any say to a person they'll be deaf in a few years .
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Yes, it's definitely not right... just off sets me is all... Especially "you'll be deaf in about 14 years?" Hmmmm :hmm:
 
Jessa6625 said:
I have learned that I will be going deaf in a few years. Since I already have tinnitus, my doctor will think I am going deaf around 30 or 31. At 17 and learning I am going to lose it around then, is not something I want to think about.
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First, tinnitus happens to pretty much everybody.
Unless you have a family history of hearing loss or some sort of congenital malformation of your ears (outer, middle, or inner), you have an exceedingly low likelihood of "going deaf".
And tinnitus is NOT a hole in the ear drum.
Hole in the eardrum is a perforated tympanic membrane. If you have that, your doctor should be figuring out how to close the hole.
Even with a perforated tympanic membrane, you aren't doomed to go deaf.
There are different types of hearing loss.
Haring loss that affects the outer and middle ear (from the ear canal to the cochlea) is conductive and by definition can only cause sound to be dampened.
With conductive hearing loss, you can use one conduction hearing aids to get near normal hearing.

Ask your doctor what he was doing when he was supposed to be learning ENT.
Honestly, most doctors, including ENTs (unless they specialize in hearing loss) don't understand the difference between conductive and sensorineural hearing loss.

I hate to be this blunt but most doctors skip the majority of their med school lectures.
 
ecp said:
First, tinnitus happens to pretty much everybody.
Unless you have a family history of hearing loss or some sort of congenital malformation of your ears (outer, middle, or inner), you have an exceedingly low likelihood of "going deaf".
And tinnitus is NOT a hole in the ear drum.
Hole in the eardrum is a perforated tympanic membrane. If you have that, your doctor should be figuring out how to close the hole.
Even with a perforated tympanic membrane, you aren't doomed to go deaf.
There are different types of hearing loss.
Haring loss that affects the outer and middle ear (from the ear canal to the cochlea) is conductive and by definition can only cause sound to be dampened.
With conductive hearing loss, you can use one conduction hearing aids to get near normal hearing.

Ask your doctor what he was doing when he was supposed to be learning ENT.
Honestly, most doctors, including ENTs (unless they specialize in hearing loss) don't understand the difference between conductive and sensorineural hearing loss.

I hate to be this blunt but most doctors skip the majority of their med school lectures.
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I couldn't agree more... "doomed" to go deaf... lololol... I think it was a blessing in a way honestly... hear less BS when I don't want to... BUAHAHAHA!!!! >.>

Seriously though, that's what I was saying when I said I thought this seemed a little "far fetched" to say the least. :hmm:
 
Phoenix23 said:
I couldn't agree more... "doomed" to go deaf... lololol... I think it was a blessing in a way honestly... hear less BS when I don't want to... BUAHAHAHA!!!! >.>

Seriously though, that's what I was saying when I said I thought this seemed a little "far fetched" to say the least. :hmm:
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I'm really not kidding a out student doctors skipping lectures. But even if they went to lectures they have professors wh have never actually practiced medicine.
I had a professor who was teaching us about branchial arch disorders (outer and middle ear disorders like atresia and in the severe form, Treacher Collins syndrome) who showed us slides of a person with Treacher Collins and said "it may look like these people are retarded but many have near normal intelligence".
My hand shot up and I pointed out that the sequence of malformations had nothing to do with the brain and that individuals with Treacher Collins syndrome could have normal hearing when fitted with appropriate bone conduction hearing aids.
It turned out that the professor didn't actually bother to read further than the genetic malformation sequence so to him people with TCS were unable to be helped.

You would think that medical school professors know something about hearing loss but they don't. At all.
 
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