Messed up situation at work. Need some thoughts.

Audiofuzzy said:
That's what I said.

Fuzzy
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Maybe after you told the OP that he was rude. The OP was not being rude, he was preparing for his presentation. Compare it to someone adjusting his mic.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
And d-geek got a standing ovation from his 150 coworkers not the other guy . So this prove d-geek did nothing wrong. I would had been doing the same if I was there.
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Just because 150 people say with standing ovation 2+2 =5 doesn't make it right, either.


Just to be sure, I reread the whole thing.
Please understand, here are two things at play.

certain rules of good manners apply to everyone, everywhere,
deaf or HoH or not, while in conversation and someone is speaking to you at the moment, or presentation,
you shouldn't just up and flip out a phone and start fiddling with it.
If you are giving presentation, by adjusting the phone now and then (even if you have to) does breaks audience concentration,
and looks unprofessional.
Is as simple as that. in that aspect the guys was right. however....

If you are a deaf or HoH guy with a cell connected to your CI then yes it's a different story,
BUT you have to politely explain the situation before the whole thing takes place.
This way you avoid the whole possible unpleasantness later, as the other person understands you need to adjust your phone accordingly,
and this way the whole and only blame is indeed on the temper throwing 'jerk'.
nonetheless, try not to fiddle with the phone out of respect for the audience.

But this here, unequal lack of manners is on both guys.
D-geek should re-think how his handling of his gadgets affects others, and find ways to avoid correct his cell phone, HA, whatever - in public. especially during presentation or conversation. reduce it to minimum.
Judging by this guy behavior, it does bother some people :)

The temper guy behaved way worse, of course. From the etiquette point he shouldn't have "see" the faux pas anyway (the etiquette says we should politely overlook minor gaffes of others) and his tantrum was gross.
He did flipped out for a relatively tiny reason. perhaps he needs some chill pill or what. or sanatorium leave, maybe.

From the professional side of the story, I would complain about him for his unprofessional and overly emotional, even aggressive, certainly ignorant way he treated 'me':

I told him I was deaf. He told me he did not care and for me to put all my electronics on the table; so I pulled out both of my phones, took off my HA, my CI, and set the microphone down. I know he kept talking, but was not looking at me so I have no idea what he said.
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He had no right to do that.
It's one thing to not so politely fiddle with one's phone during presentation,
another to go off one's rocker like whoaaa because of that and demand of that person to remove his vital necessities such as HA, CI and the phone connected to all this. Plus, all this in public. Wasn't that humiliating for D-geek, having to remove his assistive devices like a little child in front of all those people? (shakes head)
That was unacceptable. From professional standpoint.


What I would do, I would say I certainly apologize for not explaining about the phone ahead and using it out during presentation,
but I do officially complain about the way I was treated ans would like and apology.


And I would certainly try my best to figure out how to not use the electronics during conversations and presentations etc.

Fuzzy
 
I would look at how one's opinion was conveyed. He probably deserved the hint. :lol:
 
He was being rude when he called him out about the phone. Once he was informed d-geek was deaf and continued he was being a jerk. If someone told me to put my stuff on the table lets just say it would have gotten ugly. I think d-geek handled it well.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
Just because 150 people say with standing ovation 2+2 =5 doesn't make it right, either.


Just to be sure, I reread the whole thing.
Please understand, here are two things at play.

certain rules of good manners apply to everyone, everywhere,
deaf or HoH or not, while in conversation and someone is speaking to you at the moment, or presentation,
you shouldn't just up and flip out a phone and start fiddling with it.
If you are giving presentation, by adjusting the phone now and then (even if you have to) does breaks audience concentration,
and looks unprofessional.
Is as simple as that. in that aspect the guys was right. however....

If you are a deaf or HoH guy with a cell connected to your CI then yes it's a different story,
BUT you have to politely explain the situation before the whole thing takes place.
This way you avoid the whole possible unpleasantness later, as the other person understands you need to adjust your phone accordingly,
and this way the whole and only blame is indeed on the temper throwing 'jerk'.
nonetheless, try not to fiddle with the phone out of respect for the audience.

But this here, unequal lack of manners is on both guys.
D-geek should re-think how his handling of his gadgets affects others, and find ways to avoid correct his cell phone, HA, whatever - in public. especially during presentation or conversation. reduce it to minimum.
Judging by this guy behavior, it does bother some people :)

The temper guy behaved way worse, of course. From the etiquette point he shouldn't have "see" the faux pas anyway (the etiquette says we should politely overlook minor gaffes of others) and his tantrum was gross.
He did flipped out for a relatively tiny reason. perhaps he needs some chill pill or what. or sanatorium leave, maybe.

From the professional side of the story, I would complain about him for his unprofessional and overly emotional, even aggressive, certainly ignorant way he treated 'me':




He had no right to do that.
It's one thing to not so politely fiddle with one's phone during presentation,
another to go off one's rocker like whoaaa because of that and demand of that person to remove his vital necessities such as HA, CI and the phone connected to all this. Plus, all this in public. Wasn't that humiliating for D-geek, having to remove his assistive devices like a little child in front of all those people? (shakes head)
That was unacceptable. From professional standpoint.


What I would do, I would say I certainly apologize for not explaining about the phone ahead and using it out during presentation,
but I do officially complain about the way I was treated ans would like and apology.


And I would certainly try my best to figure out how to not use the electronics during conversations and presentations etc.

Fuzzy
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Only one person had any issues with the phone being taken out ,he should had waited until d geek was done then taken him aside to let him know how he felt about the phone. The guy was disrespectful for calling d geek out in front of everyone . The guy need to learn how be more professional on the job and not be having tantrums on the job. I bet some men would not been as cool headed as d geek was about the whole thing.
 
D-geek, did you think the guy meant your HA and CI when he said put all electronics on the table? Or did you do that because you wanted to?

My interpretation was that you put it all on the table and did your presentation in ASL to make a point. Others are interpreting your statement as that's what the guy wanted you to do.
 
LoveBlue said:
D-geek, did you think the guy meant your HA and CI when he said put all electronics on the table? Or did you do that because you wanted to?

My interpretation was that you put it all on the table and did your presentation in ASL to make a point. Others are interpreting your statement as that's what the guy wanted you to do.
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I am not interpreting that way at all that guy meant to take off all his
'electronics' . You have no idea what I am thinking.
 
LoveBlue said:
D-geek, did you think the guy meant your HA and CI when he said put all electronics on the table? Or did you do that because you wanted to?

My interpretation was that you put it all on the table and did your presentation in ASL to make a point. Others are interpreting your statement as that's what the guy wanted you to do.
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This "guy" might not have had any idea that there'd be a plethora of electronics equipment! :lol:
 
LoveBlue said:
D-geek, did you think the guy meant your HA and CI when he said put all electronics on the table? Or did you do that because you wanted to?

My interpretation was that you put it all on the table and did your presentation in ASL to make a point. Others are interpreting your statement as that's what the guy wanted you to do.
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That's is a good question.

Fuzzy
 
Tousi said:
This "guy" might not have had any idea that there'd be a plethora of electronics equipment! :lol:
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True. These days electronics equipment could include anything on a person. My son-in-law has an electronic computerized prosthetic leg--even that could be included! :lol:
 
Reba said:
Regardless of whether or not d-geek is deaf, the other guy is the one who responded in an unprofessional manner. Even if he thought d-geek was a hearing guy with a cell phone, he certainly didn't handle the situation correctly. This is not the way to respond:

"The guy flips out at me. Tells me how unprofessional it is for me to be playing with my phone when giving a presentation."

It was not that guy's job to give a public phone-etiquette lesson to d-geek.
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No, and I agreed with this.

Fuzzy
 
jonnyghost said:
He was being rude when he called him out about the phone. Once he was informed d-geek was deaf and continued he was being a jerk. If someone told me to put my stuff on the table lets just say it would have gotten ugly. I think d-geek handled it well.
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considering what I said, I'd say he got lucky.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Only one person had any issues with the phone being taken out ,he should had waited until d geek was done then taken him aside to let him know how he felt about the phone. The guy was disrespectful for calling d geek out in front of everyone . The guy need to learn how be more professional on the job and not be having tantrums on the job. I bet some men would not been as cool headed as d geek was about the whole thing.
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That's a great suggestion.

We don't know, however, how many people truly have an issue with the phone being pulled out during presentation. we only know this one person VOICED it.
The guy certainly need pointers how to behave, yes.

I however believe taking out HA and CI was over the top. It was unnecessary, also childish. D-geek didn't have to do that.

On the whole I do agree D-geek handled it Okay.


Fuzzy
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I am not interpreting that way at all that guy meant to take off all his
'electronics' . You have no idea what I am thinking.
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Because everything anybody says refers to you!


What is that psychiatric condition that thinks this way again?? :hmm:
 
I know every one grew up differently. I started out my life in the hearing world and have had to transition into a deaf world. To me my HA's are electronic devices that I can comfortably live without, others might not be comfortable with me not wearing them. I look at my HA's and any other items I use to make them work better as adaptive devices.


The owner, company president, and HR did a conformance call me this morning. The owner flew in from NY this morning. We meet at a local hotel.

They played the video from the town hall meeting. You could clearly hear over the PA system that I told the guy I was deaf. I found out he had been working there about 80 days, was not his first issue, and has been fired. With him working there for the last 2 months he has seen me pull out my phone the last 2 town hall meetings.

They are not faulting me for what happened, but do think I could of handled it differently.

All of there HOH staff (57) called in sick today and most of them have called in for Friday. They told me a bunch of there work stations have huge bottle necks and everything has can to a stop. The want me to go in Friday and walk around to be seen. There hope everything will be back to normal on Monday.

They also feel that there “HOH sensitivity training / communicating with the HOH” training is out dated and want me to sit down with them on Friday to help update it.

Audiofuzzy said:
BUT you have to politely explain the situation before the whole thing takes place. Fuzzy
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Are you telling me that any time I use an adaptive device I need to stop and explain it to everyone.
 
d-geek said:
I know every one grew up differently. I started out my life in the hearing world and have had to transition into a deaf world. To me my HA's are electronic devices that I can comfortably live without, others might not be comfortable with me not wearing them. I look at my HA's and any other items I use to make them work better as adaptive devices.


The owner, company president, and HR did a conformance call me this morning. The owner flew in from NY this morning. We meet at a local hotel.

They played the video from the town hall meeting. You could clearly hear over the PA system that I told the guy I was deaf. I found out he had been working there about 80 days, was not his first issue, and has been fired. With him working there for the last 2 months he has seen me pull out my phone the last 2 town hall meetings.

They are not faulting me for what happened, but do think I could of handled it differently.

All of there HOH staff (57) called in sick today and most of them have called in for Friday. They told me a bunch of there work stations have huge bottle necks and everything has can to a stop. The want me to go in Friday and walk around to be seen. There hope everything will be back to normal on Monday.

They also feel that there “HOH sensitivity training / communicating with the HOH” training is out dated and want me to sit down with them on Friday to help update it.



Are you telling me that any time I use an adaptive device I need to stop and explain it to everyone.
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Is the person that said you should had " could of handled it differently" hearing or HOH? I don't think a hearing person can really say you could had done this "differently." I think you handle it fine . That is great that guy been fired !
 
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