Gallaudet under fire after official placed on leave over ballot signature

[Jiro]

Strictly limited to financial matter?? Is that why congress is allowed three voting seats on the board. of trustees? (Currently. Sherrod Brown,Lynn Woolsey. and Kevin Yoder). Is that why it took an act of congress (literally) to amend the schools charter for a name change? How about the fact that the school has to report to the Dept. of Education?

hence.... financial matter. I thought you know businesses.... companies/organizations/etc have people to report to... like board members. nothing to do with university policies as it's left to university administrations to deal with, not trustees or Dept. of Education or Congress. Even Congress does not deal with any federal departments policies that it funds... all it does is fund and all departments have to submit its financial reports to Congress. nothing more, nothing less.

After working for universities for several years... I think I know how it works

If she is fired,I would love to be the one handling her case. An extremely successful, African-American,Deaf woman with a PhD fired for taking part in the political process. Heh

I don't think she's interested in suing. Like many successful people with impressive pedigree, they leave gracefully and work for other place.

I doubt she will follow the same path as Carly Fiorina.

 

[TXgolfer]

hence.... financial matter. I thought you know businesses.... companies/organizations/etc have people to report to... like board members. nothing to do with university policies as it's left to university administrations to deal with, not trustees or Dept. of Education or Congress. Even Congress does not deal with any federal departments policies that it funds... all it does is fund and all departments have to submit its financial reports to Congress. nothing more, nothing less.

After working for universities for several years... I think I know how it works


I don't think she's interested in suing. Like many successful people with impressive pedigree, they leave gracefully and work for other place.

I doubt she will follow the same path as Carly Fiorina.

You are entitled to your opinion. I am certain that it is clear to most that name changes and electing administrators is beyond financial. If Gally wants to fire people for participating in the political process, they can answer to the taxpayers who fund them. I am actually writing a long article on this now.

 

[Jiro]

You are entitled to your opinion.

not an opinion. a fact. notice that you have not even been able to come up with a source to back your claim.

I am certain that it is clear to most that name changes and electing administrators is beyond financial.

take a look at Fast Facts - Gallaudet University and you'll see that federal government does not play an important role in such thing. that's a fact.

If Gally wants to fire people for participating in the political process, they can answer to the taxpayers who fund them. I am actually writing a long article on this now.

that's not what happens in here. you are politicizing this issue. they are simply investigating whether or not if McCaskill's office has done any wrongdoings or not. that is the proper protocol to investigate a formal complaint filed against her as per federal guideline for receiving federal funding. that's a fact.

 

[Jiro]

although not an authoritative source but it's basically proved TXGolfer wrong

Federal Schools and Colleges: Information from Answers.com

Both Gallaudet University and Howard University were established in times when there was great debate about whether deaf individuals and freed slaves (and freemen) were capable of achieving higher education. At the start, both universities had an initial goal of training teachers for the growing number of deaf institutions and in schools where freed slaves were obtaining public education for the first time. Both universities, although chartered to grant degrees by the federal government and receiving substantial shares of their revenues from the federal government, are private, nonprofit institutions, governed by boards of trustees. While there is some federal review of their policies, they continue to maintain the independence to determine their own academic and strategic planning objectives. Both universities continue to be national in scope, are fully accredited, and enroll both undergraduate and graduate students from across the United States in unique educational, cultural, and social environments. The importance of these two federally chartered schools is similarly seen in their impact on the wider communities they serve.

and that's a fact.

 

[TXgolfer]

not an opinion. a fact. notice that you have not even been able to come up with a source to back your claim.


take a look at Fast Facts - Gallaudet University and you'll see that federal government does not play an important role in such thing. that's a fact.


that's not what happens in here. you are politicizing this issue. they are simply investigating whether or not if McCaskill's office has done any wrongdoings or not. that is the proper protocol to investigate a formal complaint filed against her as per federal guideline for receiving federal funding. that's a fact.

People are welcome to research for themselves. They 3 members of congress sitting on the board as well as the function and duties of the board are really easy to find, for anyone who is interested. Again,Congress amended the schools charter just to allow the school to change names.....that is easy to find too.

If the school feels the need to investigate this woman for exercising her right to the political process that is their choice. Notice, I have stated. "if she is fired"

 

[TXgolfer]

although not an authoritative source but it's basically proved TXGolfer wrong

Federal Schools and Colleges: Information from Answers.com


and that's a fact.

Notice you didn't highlight "governed by boards of trustees." Again. Brown, Woolsey and Yoder are currently the 3 members of congress with voting rights on that board. So again, not limited to financial....as you stated.

The Gallaudet University Board of Trustees, whose members serve on a volunteer basis, has the authority to make University-wide policy including financial and academic policies. The board is also responsible for assuring the proper management of the University and actively participating in the provision of necessary funds. Gallaudet’s trustees have an active role in supporting advancement activities by working with the University administration to set fundraising targets, approve campaign priorities, and contribute to fundraising activities through identification of prospects, monetary or in-kind donations, and service.

Gallaudet University trustees:

Chair—Dr. Benjamin J. Soukup
Vice Chair—Dr. Harvey Goodstein
Secretary—Cheryl A. Heppner
Member-at-Large—Pamela Lloyd-Ogoke
Member-at-Large—Duane Halliburton
Claire Bugen
Jameson Crane, Jr.
Dr. Jorge L. Díaz-Herrera
Claudia L. Gordon, Esq.
Heather Harker
Jeffrey L. Humber, Jr.
Dr. Tom Humphries

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Nancy Kelly-Jones
Lawrence R. Kinney
Dr. Richard Ladner
James Macfadden
James F.X. Payne
Tiffany Williams

Voting trustees public members:

The Honorable Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio)
The Honorable Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.)
The Honorable Kevin Yoder (R-Kan.)

Oh well, guess we will see how it plays out.

 

[Jiro]

People are welcome to research for themselves. They 3 members of congress sitting on the board as well as the function and duties of the board are really easy to find, for anyone who is interested. Again,Congress amended the schools charter just to allow the school to change names.....that is easy to find too.

that still doesn't prove that Congress is very involved in dictating school policies. all you have showed me is... oh a name change here and there..... and financial matters.

by your logic - there would be a Congressional hearing or some federal involvement of some sort but I don't see any such thing in here. do you?

I certainly don't hear any peep from Brown, Woolsey, or Yoder in this matter. do you?

If the school feels the need to investigate this woman for exercising her right to the political process that is their choice. Notice, I have stated. "if she is fired"

note that you're saying -see above-

again - that's not what happened in here.

Statement from Gallaudet University President T. Alan Hurwitz regarding the Chief Diversity Officer:

"I want to inform the community that I have placed Dr. Angela McCaskill on paid administrative leave effective immediately. It recently came to my attention that Dr. McCaskill has participated in a legislative initiative that some feel is inappropriate for an individual serving as Chief Diversity Officer; however, other individuals feel differently. I will use the extended time while she is on administrative leave to determine the appropriate next steps taking into consideration the duties of this position at the university. In the meantime an interim Chief Diversity Officer will be announced in the near future."

simply following a protocol... same as police chief placing officers on paid leave to investigate their action in case of formal complaint filed against them. nothing more, nothing less.

Gally must strictly follow this protocol as per Title VI and Title IX or they'll risk losing a massive federal funding.

 

[Jiro]

With regards to employment, McCaskill's only accountability is to the University. Unless the University can prove that her beliefs in some way caused her to discriminate against students, she should be reinstated immediately. I have not seen one accusation of discrimination against students. The only person who has had their rights violated is McCaskill. This is a travesty.....an amazing and successful woman being targeted by political correctness.

the way you're "glorifying" her....

this reminds me of something......... oh yea - Jerry Sandusky...

I think I would be very careful of who I'd "glorify"....

 

[TXgolfer]

the way you're "glorifying" her....

this reminds me of something......... oh yea - Jerry Sandusky...

I think I would be very careful of who I'd "glorify"....

Wut?

 

[TXgolfer]

that still doesn't prove that Congress is very involved in dictating school policies. all you have showed me is... oh a name change here and there..... and financial matters.

by your logic - there would be a Congressional hearing or some federal involvement of some sort but I don't see any such thing in here. do you?

I certainly don't hear any peep from Brown, Woolsey, or Yoder in this matter. do you?


note that you're saying -see above-

again - that's not what happened in here.

Statement from Gallaudet University President T. Alan Hurwitz regarding the Chief Diversity Officer:


simply following a protocol... same as police chief placing officers on paid leave to investigate their action in case of formal complaint filed against them. nothing more, nothing less.

Gally must strictly follow this protocol as per Title VI and Title IX or they'll risk losing a massive federal funding.

Exactly why I have said "if she is fired."

And, if they find wrongdoing....then by all means....fire her.

 

[Jiro]

Exactly why I have said "if she is fired."

And, if they find wrongdoing....then by all means....fire her.

I'm glad you've finally understand the situation. good night

 

[Steinhauer]

The Chief Diversity Officer Job Description:

Chief Diversity Officer Job Description | eHow.com

Objective

The objective of the chief diversity officer is to recruit a variety of students, based on ethnicity, race and religion. Toward that goal, the diversity officer also helps plan and support existing programs on campus. The same principles apply to recruiting a diverse staff.

What Dr. McCaskill's pastor has had to say:

Press Release: Dr. Angela McCaskill (Reid Temple AME Church)

allow me to highlight a quote:

Unfortunately, Dr. McCaskill and her family have been subjected to threats and intimidation as a result of the media coverage of the actions taken by President Hurwitz on behalf of Gallaudet University. As her church family we stand firmly by her side, and welcome all persons of good faith regardless of their ideological views to denounce these actions of cowardice and bullying.

Not only has her own family been victims of threats and intimidation - but 110,000 other signers of this petition were named publicly, and a door to door "campaign of intimidation" took place. GLBT supporters went to their private homes and confronted these people - calling them "haters".

That is not civilized. It is also illegal.


http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/gallaudet-suspension-could-mean-a-lawsuit

Under the D.C. Code, it is a criminal violation for "[a]ny person who ... by threats or intimidation, interferes with, or attempts to interfere with, the right of any qualified registered elector to sign or not to sign any initiative, referendum, or recall petition." The sentence for violating the provision can be up to a $10,000 fine and a year in prison.

 

[Steinhauer]

hence.... financial matter. I thought you know businesses.... companies/organizations/etc have people to report to... like board members. nothing to do with university policies as it's left to university administrations to deal with, not trustees or Dept. of Education or Congress. Even Congress does not deal with any federal departments policies that it funds... all it does is fund and all departments have to submit its financial reports to Congress. nothing more, nothing less.

After working for universities for several years... I think I know how it works


I don't think she's interested in suing. Like many successful people with impressive pedigree, they leave gracefully and work for other place.

I doubt she will follow the same path as Carly Fiorina.

McCaskill’s Attorney to Hold Press Conference on Tuesday | Planet DeafQueer

 

[TXgolfer]

I'm glad you've finally understand the situation. good night

I have understood the situation clearly in both threads. There has been no change in my position which should be clear to everyone. Perhaps you misunderstood.

 

[TXgolfer]

The Chief Diversity Officer Job Description:

Chief Diversity Officer Job Description | eHow.com





What Dr. McCaskill's pastor has had to say:

Press Release: Dr. Angela McCaskill (Reid Temple AME Church)

allow me to highlight a quote:



Not only has her own family been victims of threats and intimidation - but 110,000 other signers of this petition were named publicly, and a door to door "campaign of intimidation" took place. GLBT supporters went to their private homes and confronted these people - calling them "haters".

That is not civilized. It is also illegal.


Gallaudet Suspension Could Mean A Lawsuit

That is one of the things that makes this suspension so bad. Even though she is being paid it brought her a ton of problems without any evidence of wrong doing. I think this move will really backfire for Gally.

 

[Steinhauer]

Both Sides Of The Gay Marriage Debate Demand Reinstatement Of Gallaudet University Official « CBS Baltimore

 

[Jane B.]

I have been unable to find an online copy of the petition that she signed; but was under the impression that it is just to bring the issue to a vote during the next general election.

If that is correct, what is all the fuss about. Just wanting to allow it on the ballet is not taking sides.

 

[ambrosia]

I think it is the possible conflict of interest. I don't think her freedom of speech rights are being violated, no one is saying she can't hold these views or speak about them. BUT having views like this......are they well suited for someone who is the Chief Diversity Officer? I think it if she held another position this wouldn't have had happened.

edited to add.......freedom of speech gives you the right to say whatever you want.....it doesn't however mean there will not be repercussions for what comes out of your mouth.

 

[VacationGuy234]

The school has not put her on leave because of the signing of the petition, it put her on leave to decide whether she is the right person for her job position. This is two totally different things. She has the right to sign a petition (granted by the constitution) and the school can't take that away from her or punish her for it so she would win a legal fight with the school. However, that does not guarantee she will keep her job position because it is up to the school to decide whether she is the person for it.

Since the real argument is not about the petition or the right to sign it and the real argument is whether a Galladet has the right "re-think" a person's position at the school based on their actions. I do think they have that right. Why? Because this happened in Washington DC which is a federal district (not a state) and "federal law does not prohibit employers from discriminating on the basis of other off-duty conduct".

Now, you can argue that federal law does protect against discrimination. However, if you are attempting to convert others based on political or religious belief, and, I see no better way to convert than to change the law, a company has the right to discriminate. You cannot proselytize or attempt to convert others.

This case is very interesting.

 

[Frisky Feline]

She needs to go. There are a large number of gay community in DC. Come on.