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Same-Sex Immigration Policy: U.S. To Treat Gay Partners As Relatives

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NOTE: Anti-gay and homophobic comments are not welcomed, also no debate over gay marriage. Religious discussion is forbidden in this forum.

EDIT: This thread isn't place to discuss about general immigration, but rather to specialize on homosexual couples who receive a unfair treatment and doesn't have same immigration rights as heterosexual couples, because our law isn't recognize homosexual couples to have same rights as homosexual couples.
 
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Sounds like bad policy. Illegal immigrants will now be paying someone to marry them in order to gain citizenship. This is going to get crazy once the coyotes figure out how to run a marriage brothel.
 
Foxrac said:
You have been in Alldeaf forum for long time and you should know about their policy.

The religious discussion isn't allowed in this forum since 2008 after religion section closed for good.
http://www.alldeaf.com/general-chat/41571-religion-forum-now-closed.html

Our thread isn't belong to religious discussion, period and our thread is intended for good news with gay partners. If you don't have something to say so please kindly leave our thread alone.
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I was just asking why. I wasn't here in 2008.
 
impaired said:
Sounds like bad policy. Illegal immigrants will now be paying someone to marry them in order to gain citizenship. This is going to get crazy once the coyotes figure out how to run a marriage brothel.
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No, that's not true, they changed the policy to include same sex partners in consideration when deal with immigrant issues. There are gay partners got arrested and face deportation, even married too, while opposite sex partners receive a grant to stay in USA because they have partner that is US citizen. The new policy makes fair for gay partners so they will not deported for not arrive legally at first place, long as they have other partner that is US citizen.

Now, at point, this thread isn't discuss about how is bad policies about immigration, but it makes fair for gay partners to be included, just same treat as heterosexual couples.
 
Steinhauer said:
I was just asking why. I wasn't here in 2008.
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You should know because you have seen a lot of threads that contain religious discussion got locked up or move to closed section. That's no excuse if you don't know.

I'm not going play game with you and that's end of discussion about religions.
 
Foxrac said:
You should know because you have seen a lot of threads that contain religious discussion got locked up or move to closed section. That's no excuse if you don't know.

I'm not going play game with you and that's end of discussion about religions.
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I wasn't trying to play games. I don't play games about religion. It is too sacred for me. I was just wondering why that is all. And no, I am not trying to bother you either, I just thought if you are going to make a statement that religious discussion is not allowed, that you could maybe explain why.
 
I want to make a note about this thread specialized to discuss about new policies that include same sex partners, not general immigration (#3 is general immigration). If you want to discuss about general immigration so this thread isn't right place for you and go create a thread in appropriate section, such as current events.

The same sex population is minority and there will be not many people who grant to stay in US because they have spouse or partner who are US citizen. I glad that Homeland Security included same sex in consideration over immigration, however opposite sex is already included for many years.
 
gay people treated badly in some countries ..i not sure the law in uk but personly i would help every gay, transexual,bi, to get out of countries where life is made misery...if they coming from islamic country even if they are illegals then sending them back would be death sentence...compasion
 
Steinhauer said:
I wasn't trying to play games. I don't play games about religion. It is too sacred for me. I was just wondering why that is all. And no, I am not trying to bother you either, I just thought if you are going to make a statement that religious discussion is not allowed, that you could maybe explain why.
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Alex decided that religious topics were too volatile for AD, so he put the kibosh on them a few years ago. It's not Foxrac's rule but Alex's. I think Foxrac was just reminding us of that in order to preempt any posts that would lock his thread.
 
caz12 said:
gay people treated badly in some countries ..i not sure the law in uk but personly i would help every gay, transexual,bi, to get out of countries where life is made misery...if they coming from islamic country even if they are illegals then sending them back would be death sentence...compasion
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UK has great gay rights, more protection than in US, but some states in US allows gay marriage at state level (not recognized by federal), same equal as marriage for opposite sex, but UK has civil partnership and they said that they are trying to include the marriage for same sex in 2015 to solve the recognition issues. The gay rights in US will be improved in a matter of time and we will have full protection and recognize the marriage from other states or countries.

Yup, the gay rights in middle east, Africa (not South Africa) and eastern Europe are terrible.

Reba said:
Alex decided that religious topics were too volatile for AD, so he put the kibosh on them a few years ago. It's not Foxrac's rule but Alex's. I think Foxrac was just reminding us of that in order to preempt any posts that would lock his thread.
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Yes, that's correct. Thanks.
 
Foxrac said:
No, that's not true, they changed the policy to include same sex partners in consideration when deal with immigrant issues. There are gay partners got arrested and face deportation, even married too, while opposite sex partners receive a grant to stay in USA because they have partner that is US citizen. The new policy makes fair for gay partners so they will not deported for not arrive legally at first place, long as they have other partner that is US citizen.

Now, at point, this thread isn't discuss about how is bad policies about immigration, but it makes fair for gay partners to be included, just same treat as heterosexual couples.
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Ok with me if you don't want to discuss immigration.

So what I gather is you want to discuss that it's fair that your illegal boyfriend gets to stay in the US if you commit a crime and end up in jail. No that doesn't sound like good policy to me.
 
impaired said:
Ok with me if you don't want to discuss immigration.

So what I gather is you want to discuss that it's fair that your illegal boyfriend gets to stay in the US if you commit a crime and end up in jail. No that doesn't sound like good policy to me.
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I don't have illegal boyfriend and I rather to have a partner who in here legally, period, but some American citizens have spouses that are illegal immigrants, so they have immigration court to resolve the legal issues in our country. What is your point about commit a crime? I'm not interested to break the law and I don't know why are you brought. Not all illegal immigrants commit a crime, addition to violation of immigration laws, such as murder, theft, rape, assault, etc.

I noticed that you don't mention heterosexual couples in your post and you just take homosexual couples as serious issue, that's disturbed me. Do you have problem with homosexual couple? There are one of heterosexual couple who is illegal and other one is US citizen so the court granted them to stay in US but for homosexual couple, it is opposite because who is illegal and other one is US citizen, so one illegal got deported as US citizen without spouse, that's not fair so Homeland Security changed their policy to include homosexual couples.
 
I don't think that some of you will understand about what is point of this thread.

I'm going give a example.

Johnny is US citizen (He was born in US) and Tommy is Thailand citizen. Tommy obtained the permission from immigration office to enter the US with visa that have expiration date (temporarily - 6 months). Tommy found a boyfriend that love him - his name is Johnny. Tommy and Johnny decided to live together, but Tommy's visa expired and he was supposed to leave US and he refused because he has important love who live in US. When ICE agent questioned Tommy about his immigration status and detained in immigration center until hear in the court. Under new policy, Tommy will able to stay in US because he has love with Johnny, so Johnny is US citizen.

But under old policy - Tommy will be deported and Johnny lost a important love one.

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Other example - in state of Massachusetts, Brian is US citizen and Rajiv is Indian citizen. Rajiv visited USA without visa for limited of time so on and off for few years. Brian and Rajiv are in together for few years and they decided to have marriage, that's only recognized by state of Massachusetts. After they got married so Rajiv decided to stay in US for long time until ICE agent questioned him and detained to immigration center. After court hearing and under new policy, Rajiv will be allowed to stay in US because he has love from Brian who is US citizen.

Under old policy, Rajiv will be deported and Brian lost the lovely husband.

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The example about heterosexual couple, Chris is US citizen and Ann is French citizen. Ann decided to visit US without visa for limited of time, on and off. Ann found one man that she love named Chris. Chris and Ann have been together for one year. They decided to have a marriage in state of California. After they are married. ICE agent questioned Ann about her immigration status and detained to immigration center. After court hearing and Ann is allowed to stay in US because she has husband that is US citizen.

Even under old policy, Ann will still allowed to stay in US because they include heterosexual couple as consideration but homosexual couples were excluded until federal changed the policy.

If you don't agree with entire of immigration policy, even heterosexual or homosexual, so this thread isn't right place to discussion because we are discussing about policy change to include homosexual couples.
 
Foxrac said:
No, that's not true, they changed the policy to include same sex partners in consideration when deal with immigrant issues. There are gay partners got arrested and face deportation, even married too, while opposite sex partners receive a grant to stay in USA because they have partner that is US citizen. The new policy makes fair for gay partners so they will not deported for not arrive legally at first place, long as they have other partner that is US citizen.

Now, at point, this thread isn't discuss about how is bad policies about immigration, but it makes fair for gay partners to be included, just same treat as heterosexual couples.
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What about heterosexual couples...one commits a crime, goes to jail or prison, even if they have kids and are married "legally"....Perhaps they should be allowed to move to another country to avoid jail time?

And perhaps our jails /prisons will even be busting at the seams (some already are)...if illegals are given to choice to go to jail/prison or be deported....

As for some who pay big $$ in order to marry a US citizen and receive their green card...has been going on for many, many years....

A crime is a crime, no matter if they are gay or straight...illegal or not....
 
rockin'robin said:
What about heterosexual couples...one commits a crime, goes to jail or prison, even if they have kids and are married "legally"....Perhaps they should be allowed to move to another country to avoid jail time?

And perhaps our jails /prisons will even be busting at the seams (some already are)...if illegals are given to choice to go to jail/prison or be deported....

As for some who pay big $$ in order to marry a US citizen and receive their green card...has been going on for many, many years....

A crime is a crime, no matter if they are gay or straight...illegal or not....
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This thread isn't place to discussion about crime, period and you are in wrong place.

See #15 above.
 
rockin'robin said:
Isn't it a crime to be in this Country illegally?
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I'm not going to answer your question and this thread isn't discussing about general immigration, period.

Go create a new thread in current events if you want discuss about general immigration and this thread is only discuss about homosexual couples were excluded and unfair move under old policy.
 
But, the article you posted is about immigration. It was also very political.
 
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