Black pastors bash NAACP for endorsing gay marriage

[Jiro]

I said indifferent.....and to the issues in which I claimed indifference, I maintain my indifference. Nice try though

I didn't try anything. I'm pointing it out for you in case you're either confused or in middle of some kind of religious self-discovery journey

We disagree with you.....move on.

what are you afraid of? it's ok to have a stance in this issue.

 

[TXgolfer]

I didn't try anything. I'm pointing it out for you in case you're either confused or in middle of some kind of religious self-discovery journey

Well, since you were wrong you might want to stop pointing things out.

what are you afraid of? it's ok to have a stance in this issue.

In which issue???

 

[Jiro]

Well, since you were wrong you might want to stop pointing things out.

on what part am I wrong?

In which issue???

uh..... this thread? you know.... gay marriage and homosexuality

 

[TXgolfer]

on what part am I wrong?

Already explained that

uh..... this thread? you know.... gay marriage and homosexuality

"homosexuality" is a pretty broad topic.

Gay marriage I have stated many times that I am indifferent on that one....

 

[airportcop]

If it is legal, I guess so.

Do you think that mothers who deliver their babies to other families do exist?

For me, I will prefer to do it in California because it is safe for custody of child that where I can sign for that, also look for trustworthy mothers too.

Oh yes, I believe that these mothers do exist. I just don't feel that in most situations this is moral, ethical or right. Adoption is a far better process for all.

 

[airportcop]

Ok, I have to be extremely careful because I don't want pay child support to untrustworthy mother for big mistake and have very small chance to see their child.

I have question for you.

I ask lesbian woman to give a birth and I have to give a sperm to reproduce with eggs so after baby is born so give to me?

Is it surrogacy? Yes or No

Adoption agencies seem safest place to adopt the child than ask mother for sex and give a birth.

I know that you were probably asking Reba but yes, that situation would be surrogacy. Adoption is just a much safer and better alternative since another child isn't being created and possibly unwanted and there is less chance of anything being wrong with the legalities and moral implications or problems. Not that problems can't ocurr in normal adoption procedures.

 

[airportcop]

Medieval Age, I believe.

you know... I believe in reincarnation and past life so I most likely have went thru it. Point is... in the past, everything was done in the name of God.... they were wrong before and they are wrong now.

No jiro not everything in the past was done in the name of God. Everything is a very BIG word!

 

[airportcop]

Do you really think unfit mother should keep her baby? Do you think a mother should be given a choice to give it away or not without us interfering with her rights to decide?

Jiro,

I don't beleive that we were talking about unfit mothers here. We were talking about women being surrogates and having babies for other people for whatever reasons. It is indeed the mothers right or choice to keep or give up her baby for adoption. Far better option than abortion any day.

 

[Reba]

Ok, I have to be extremely careful because I don't want pay child support to untrustworthy mother for big mistake and have very small chance to see their child.

I have question for you.

I ask lesbian woman to give a birth and I have to give a sperm to reproduce with eggs so after baby is born so give to me?

Is it surrogacy? Yes or No

Adoption agencies seem safest place to adopt the child than ask mother for sex and give a birth.

Surrogacy laws vary from state to state, so I suggest you investigate what the laws are in your state.

BTW, you don't need to use a lesbian surrogate. Straight women offer themselves for surrogacy also.

If you truly get serious about, I strongly advise you use a lawyer to set up the legal arrangements.

Some surrogates provide only their wombs, not the eggs. Sometimes you have to get yet another woman to provide the egg. In that case, you have to also pay for the in vitro process. Not all insurances cover that expense.

 

[Reba]

you missed the "in the name of God" at the end of sentence.

Just because something is done in God's name doesn't automatically make it a bad thing. Also, some things are intrinsically wrong, no matter whether or not they're done in God's name. For example, slavery is wrong whether it's done in God's name, or done by atheists or pantheists.

 

[Reba]

yes unfortunately you're still repeating it. you see... we're progressive generation and you're regressive generation.

Just because something "progresses" doesn't mean it's a good thing.

Cancer progresses. Decay progresses. Corruption progresses.

Sometimes regression is good. When cancer regresses, that's a good thing.

 

[Foxrac]

I know that you were probably asking Reba but yes, that situation would be surrogacy. Adoption is just a much safer and better alternative since another child isn't being created and possibly unwanted and there is less chance of anything being wrong with the legalities and moral implications or problems. Not that problems can't ocurr in normal adoption procedures.

Surrogacy laws vary from state to state, so I suggest you investigate what the laws are in your state.

BTW, you don't need to use a lesbian surrogate. Straight women offer themselves for surrogacy also.

If you truly get serious about, I strongly advise you use a lawyer to set up the legal arrangements.

Some surrogates provide only their wombs, not the eggs. Sometimes you have to get yet another woman to provide the egg. In that case, you have to also pay for the in vitro process. Not all insurances cover that expense.

Ok, now I understand about definition of surrogacy.

for helping.

 

[Foxrac]

huh? APA is for citation format. you know... writing paper. I see that you keep demanding us to provide some kind of unbiased source whenever we give you source but you don't feel compelled to do same when you give us your source.

my apology. I'm rambling around. please do carry on your biased hypocrisy.

APA is required in numerous universities to use for research purposes so I'm sure you already know that.

I typed some APA research papers when I was Gally student.

 

[rockin'robin]

Foxrac, I don't care if you are a homosexual, that's ur business. However, there are some people that do find it wrong. In the past, I had several advances made upon me by lesbians, which really pissed me off, as they knew I'm straight and actually, I got one lady fired for that (she was harrassing me)....and on the job....I also had 2 lesbian friends that never bothered me at all. There are also people that find having sexual relations with the same gender somewhat sickening....People are entitled to their opinions, as you know that.

I can say that I like you and you are a valued member of AD, but I can also say that I do not like or care for your lifestyle...inasmuch, you might not like or care for my straight lifestyle. (I hope that's cleared up between us now).

 

[Foxrac]

Foxrac, I don't care if you are a homosexual, that's ur business. However, there are some people that do find it wrong. In the past, I had several advances made upon me by lesbians, which really pissed me off, as they knew I'm straight and actually, I got one lady fired for that (she was harrassing me)....and on the job....I also had 2 lesbian friends that never bothered me at all. There are also people that find having sexual relations with the same gender somewhat sickening....People are entitled to their opinions, as you know that.

I can say that I like you and you are a valued member of AD, but I can also say that I do not like or care for your lifestyle...inasmuch, you might not like or care for my straight lifestyle. (I hope that's cleared up between us now).

There are some bad homosexual people in anywhere and some gay/lesbian people were cruel and rude at me for no reason, especially at Gallaudet University. I'm sorry about you have bad experience with certain people and I do have bad experience as well.

Yup, I do know some people found homosexuality is immoral, sin or sicken. What would I do to them? Pretty nothing, let them talks like that. I can't change my sex orientation and homosexuality isn't choice. My lifestyle isn't much homosexuality and I'm just proud to be man, including wear man fashion.

I have no idea about your lifestyle but I do know you love sense of humor and being funny.

 

[Foxrac]

For anyone say homosexuality is immoral and moral corruption.

I think religious people are immoral and moral corruption.

Originally, it is none of my business about religious people so I have to say because some people took their business about homosexuality.

The deal is done.

 

[Foxrac]

The homosexuality is legal in USA and I don't see them as moral corruption anymore.

 

[caz12]

should be grateful we can find love where ever it is as long as over 18,what ever it got to do with anyone beyond me.
the bible as it reads now is writtern by bigoted misogynist,in orginal scrip women had equal status so that shows how screwed up it is...so many contradictions in the bible...i thought gays had equal rights to be married and miserable as hell like the rest of us as i believe they do here in uk

 

[Calvin]

Mod note:

If you guys have differences in opinions against someone, please take it in PMland to settle. There's no need for this out here.

Keep the thread civil debate please and also don't name any members if you have a problem with in your post.

Thanks.

 

[green427]

Foxrac, I don't care if you are a homosexual, that's ur business. However, there are some people that do find it wrong. In the past, I had several advances made upon me by lesbians, which really pissed me off, as they knew I'm straight and actually, I got one lady fired for that (she was harrassing me)....and on the job....I also had 2 lesbian friends that never bothered me at all. There are also people that find having sexual relations with the same gender somewhat sickening....People are entitled to their opinions, as you know that.

I can say that I like you and you are a valued member of AD, but I can also say that I do not like or care for your lifestyle...inasmuch, you might not like or care for my straight lifestyle. (I hope that's cleared up between us now).

I used to get hit on by gay men (especially construction workers) when I was younger, thinner, and had more hair. Used to bother me, but now no one hits on me anymore.....