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kokonut said:
And people chose Dec 25, CHRISTmas day to come together and rejoice the birth.
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whatever. the bible says to rejoice the birth of Jesus - in other words, to rejoice his existence. Not his birthday and not on one day out of the year.
 
Banjo said:
Apparently some people aren't familiar with the history of how the church hijacked the Winter Solstice and renamed it to Christmas.
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Actually, Christmas was made around winter solstice to increase the chances that it would be embraced. Hijacked? :lol: For hundreds of years people used and choose Dec 25 to celebrate Christmas to mean one thing.

Funny little history, a bit off tangent, George Washington gave us our biggest gift by crossing the Delaware River on Christmas day, a decision that decisively turned the direction of the Revolutionary war in our favor.
 
DeafCaroline said:
whatever. the bible says to rejoice the birth of Jesus - in other words, to rejoice his existence. Not his birthday and not on one day out of the year.
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And people chose December 25 to rejoice His birth using the Nativity scene, the Wise men, etc. :lol: And not the claim that Dec 25 is His birthday. We knew that already.
 
kokonut said:
And people chose December 25 to rejoice His birth using the Nativity scene, the Wise men, etc. :lol: And not the claim that Dec 25 is His birthday. We knew that already.
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We did? When was this discovered? There are some disputing there was a true Jesus, and some disputing that he was anything more than a man... You must have some pretty good history book with you there.

Edit: I think I am miss-reading your note.... Am I?
 
TheWriteAlex said:
I don't believe I made a statement as to whether I thought god had free will or not. It's not even a question I would try to answer, since there's no way to test a hypothesis on the subject. This is why I want to know: how do Christians and other religious people know what they know? The Bible is simply a book written by multiple sources, translated a thousand times, and (mis)interpreted a thousand times more.

My "opinion" that to have free will is not synonymous with having an unconstrained body can be easily tested using logical reasoning. Even a quadriplegic still retains an active mind and can make decisions that affect his or her being. Even if you take a prisoner, tie him down, force him to eat so he cannot starve himself, restrict his movement etc. etc. you still cannot take away his awareness of free will, and having awareness of free will is what makes it so. It's an ontological argument. You have free will if you can conceive of it. If you cannot, then you are not free. (Didn't you watch Terminator? Skynet. Hello?)
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I never said you made a statement.

What they know? It's about their faith. It's about testing the word of the Bible. The Bible is a historical document with eye-witness accounts, archelogical accounts that have been corroborated, etc.

As for your opinion on free will, fine. I have mine, you have yours. What more do you want?
 
Cheetah said:
We did? When was this discovered? There are some disputing there was a true Jesus, and some disputing that he was anything more than a man... You must have some pretty good history book with you there.

Edit: I think I am miss-reading your note.... Am I?
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Meaning we never could really pinpoint His birthdate. That's not important. I'm not sure why people are so hung up on an exact birth date. What's important is that He was born. He actually existed.
 
kokonut said:
Meaning we never could really pinpoint His birthdate. That's not important. I'm not sure why people are so hung up on an exact birth date. What's important is that He was born. He actually existed.
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In your opinion. Many people think he exist same Santa Claus, unicorns, Tooth Fairy.
 
Sunshine said:
Do you REALLY want us begin linking all news stories humans attacking other humans? Guarantee you outnumbered.
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Go ahead, knock yourself out.

The premise was that dogs are more loyal than humans. Hard to quantify and qualify that statement since it's an open ended claim.
 
kokonut said:
Meaning we never could really pinpoint His birthdate. That's not important. I'm not sure why people are so hung up on an exact birth date. What's important is that He was born. He actually existed.
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you seem to talk about it a lot... thought it was important to you. I only know what you type in here. No mind reading going on here (at least not without your permission of course!).
 
kokonut said:
Go ahead, knock yourself out.

The premise was that dogs are more loyal than humans. Hard to quantify and qualify that statement since it's an open ended claim.
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And you use one example dog attack human show dogs nt more loyal. You fail recognise human-human attack far more common dog-human attack.
 
kokonut said:
And people chose December 25 to rejoice His birth using the Nativity scene, the Wise men, etc. :lol: And not the claim that Dec 25 is His birthday. We knew that already.
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Did I ever say December 25th was his birthday? NO. Before replying, perhaps actually read what i wrote?

Never mind. Nearly forgot for a sec that this is kokonut I'm dealing with.

Moving on.
 
Cheetah said:
We did? When was this discovered? There are some disputing there was a true Jesus, and some disputing that he was anything more than a man... You must have some pretty good history book with you there.

Edit: I think I am miss-reading your note.... Am I?
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I'm one of those people...
 
DeafCaroline said:
Did I ever say December 25th was his birthday? NO. Before replying, perhaps actually read what i wrote?

Never mind. Nearly forgot for a sec that this is kokonut I'm dealing with.

Moving on.
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He's a loon. :P
 
DeafCaroline said:
whatever. the bible says to rejoice the birth of Jesus - in other words, to rejoice his existence. Not his birthday and not on one day out of the year.
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DC, I really don't get your point. How can anyone have an existence without a birthday? Children have birthdays and parents celebrate everyday that child brings joy but they also celebrate the childs birthday as a sign of growth. To celebrate Christmas is to acknowledge that Jesus was with a person the past year and will be for the coming year. Of course, everyone has a right not to celebrate just as I don't allow a celebration of my birthday.
 
Cheetah said:
you seem to talk about it a lot... thought it was important to you. I only know what you type in here. No mind reading going on here (at least not without your permission of course!).
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Talk about what? The birth is important, not the date. And people decided to choose Dec 25 to celebrate and rejoice the birth of Jesus Christ. Do you ever see banners or signs celebrating December 25 as His birth date or rejoicing and celebrating His birth instead?
 
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