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Most serial killers have co-morbid diagnosis. The one thing that most hold in common is a diagnosis of anitsocial personality disorder. People with ASD are extremely manipulative, and see others only in the context of what benefit they can be to the them. They are grandiose, and put their desires and their needs first in all circumstances. They value very little but themselves.

They are also able to portray themselves as whatever the situation calls for. That is why serial killers can continue to kill as long as they do. It is a game for them. And they make their victims believe that they are just an average Joe. No one realizes, until it is too late, that there is something to be very fearful of in these people.

The Green River Killer was the most prolific serial killer this country has ever seen. He was able to keep murdering women from the 1980's into the 2000's. He was a married man, and he took many of his victims to his own home that he shared with his wife of many years. Neighbors did not suspect anything, his wife did not suspect anything, no one in his life suspected anything. It took the police decades to actually see him as a suspect and make an arrest. These are not unintelligent people. They don't walk down the street talking to themselves. They are calculating and they plan their murders and choose their victims right down to the last minute detail. They also have a (very logical to their way of thinking) reason for every single murder they commit. It serves a purpose in their lives. It is killing with the motive of providing something for themselves that is missing or has been denied them in the past.

Take a look at Wayne Williams. On the surface, does he appear to be insane? Does he have a history of hospitalizations for psychotic breaks? He was active in a church, helpful to his neighbors, and very meek looking. He killed over 20 young men in Atlanta.

The reason these people are not considered legally insane is because of the definition of legal insanity, which is knowing the difference between right and wrong. The clinical definition is quite different. Did these 2 men know that what they were doing was wrong. Of course they did. That is why it was so hard to catch them. They cover their tracks extremely well due to all the planning. Did they act in the moment of a psychotic break that prevented them from understanding right from wrong? Of course not. They knew murdering innocent people was wrong. But it served the end that they needed to have served, so they did what they had to do to fulfill that need. Does someone who has a compulsive need that is fulfilled by the murder of innocent victims clinically insane? Yes, they are. People who have such a compulsive need such as this are disordered in their thinking and their feeling. We say that people with OCD have a mental disorder,don't we, when they can't leave the house until they have washed their hand 250 times, and locked and unlocked their door exactly 27 times? They do that to fulfill a need. Their rituals serve a specific need. They relieve the anxiety they experience, and have developed as the result of environment and brain differences. Compulsive murderers are enacting a ritual, the same as the person who washes their hands constantly. It is just a more extreme action.
Thanks but the part that threw me off was the part where you claimed that they have delusions and according to most literature, they may suffer from other co-morbidies but not delusions. Well, some of them come across paranoid so I guess that qualifies as delusional. That is what I'm asking about.
 
Thanks but the part that threw me off was the part where you claimed that they have delusions and according to most literature, they may suffer from other co-morbidies but not delusions. Well, some of them come across paranoid so I guess that qualifies as delusional. That is what I'm asking about.

I do think they are not exactly sane given the nature of the acts they may commit despite what the law says.
 
You probably have never heard of Aileen Wuornos. Or Rebecca Turner.

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Far more men are caught and arrested for it than women. But, actual statistics show that in DV cases, 40% of murders are committed by women.

Male and Female Killers

Wrong again, Steiny. And we are talking about serial killers. A completely different topic than single murders. In fact, even in the extremely small population of women that can be classified as a "serial killer" the majority do not act alone, but in tandem with a dominant male who controls the crime.
 
Talking about serial killers in a "Origins of Homosexuality" thread..

Sigh....
 
Try telling her that. :giggle: be prepared for the infantile insults to come out of her like diahrea.

Well, you certainly aren't exhibiting any ability to think and and display knowledge with that remark.:laugh2:
 
I do think they are not exactly sane given the nature of the acts they may commit despite what the law says.

There are different subtypes of serial killers. Check out the link I provided.
 
Remember, we are talking about serial killers. They are in a different category other than the typical murderer.

And domestic violence is yet another different topic.
 
I've heard of her, they even made a movie about her. She was a very publicized serial killer. She is an exception though, she killed strangers with a gun. She did it for personal gratification. She had a rough childhood since her father was a sociopath and child molester. She was a woman on a mission and felt that her actions were justified even though they weren't.

Female serial killers often use different methods other than guns. For instance, poisoning is one of the most common methods they use to kill people. They are more likely to kill people they have developed a personal relationship with, not total strangers.

Are you familiar with the famous serial killer, Elizabeth Báthory?

No, never heard of her. However, I was reading about a young pre-teen female serial killer in England (I believe she is still alive and has changed her identity).

Then ... of course .... the killer found not guilty in Orlando :roll:

As I said, males are prosecuted far more than females are. That does not really mean that there is a huge gap in genders ...
 
I am afraid you are putting words in my mouth again in hopes of gaining some sort of invisible advantage in a debate we are not having.

Not putting words in your mouth at all. You type them out, and everyone reads them.
 
Not putting words in your mouth at all. You type them out, and everyone reads them.

And you mis-read them.

I never said that serial killers have a lack of empathy, another AD poster said that. I gave a slight warning that per that poster's definition, it "could" include those with Aspergers, as yes, they do show a lack of empathy (you even indicated this and turned around and said I was wrong).

So, continue on your self righteous tirade. I am becoming increasingly amused by you.
 
No, never heard of her. However, I was reading about a young pre-teen female serial killer in England (I believe she is still alive and has changed her identity).

Then ... of course .... the killer found not guilty in Orlando :roll:

As I said, males are prosecuted far more than females are. That does not really mean that there is a huge gap in genders ...

:laugh2: If you never heard of her, why would you use her as an example of a serial killer?:laugh2:

Prosecuted for what? Serial murder? You telling me that a female suspected of serial murder is not going to be taken to trial just because she is a woman?
 
There are different subtypes of serial killers. Check out the link I provided.

I know. :)
I was talking about cases those who could be classified as antisocial or pychopath.. I didn't have the likes of Richard Chase in mind. That is what threw me off.

Yes, I agree that some serial killers are mentally ill in the clinical sense.
 
No, never heard of her. However, I was reading about a young pre-teen female serial killer in England (I believe she is still alive and has changed her identity).

Then ... of course .... the killer found not guilty in Orlando :roll:

As I said, males are prosecuted far more than females are. That does not really mean that there is a huge gap in genders ...

Would Mary Bell be the name? I believe she killed only two children.
 
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