The Origins of Homosexuality

[Jiro]

I can refer you to a therapist that can help you with your distorted thinking.

that's fine. I'd like to talk to one to find out why 44 states are in agreement with my distorted thinking.

 

[rolling7]

To all ADers:

It took me a lot of time and reading but here is what I have found.

I a nutshell, androgen receptor insensitivity is applied to "a failure of NORMAL masculinization of the external genitalia in chromosomally male individuals."
This has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Once again, jillio is wrong. There is no medically accredited acceptable test to prove a person is born straight, nor is there one to prove a person is born gay/lesbian/bi/trans/etc.

 

[Steinhauer]

There have been plenty of female serial killers, so the traits are not gender specific.

 

[Steinhauer]

To all ADers:

It took me a lot of time and reading but here is what I have found.

I a nutshell, androgen receptor insensitivity is applied to "a failure of NORMAL masculinization of the external genitalia in chromosomally male individuals."
This has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Once again, jillio is wrong. There is no medically accredited acceptable test to prove a person is born straight, nor is there one to prove a person is born gay/lesbian/bi/trans/etc.

Try telling her that. be prepared for the infantile insults to come out of her like diahrea.

 

[jillio]

I have no idea why you are claiming I called Aspergers a mental illness. And why would empathy have to be "learned" if there was no lack of empathy?

The point I was making (which you have not skillfully distorted) was that a lack of empathy does not necessarily a serial killer make.

Then you did a very poor job of making that point. And I have no idea why you felt the need to make it, because no one claimed that a lack of emapthy was the only reason someone became a serial killer.

No one is born with emapthy. It is learned by all. Humans are not born with the ability to show or to feel emapthy. It is a social creation. They learn it. Ausperger's don't fail to show empathy because they don't have the ability. They are disconnected from their immediate social environment, and as a consequence, don't learn emapthy.

 

[Banjo]

There have been plenty of female serial killers, so the traits are not gender specific.

You are mistaken on that part. Female serial killers are uncommon and they have different goals compared to the male serial killers. It's known that female serial killers kill for material gain, not to fulfill some needs nor to feel in control. Their primary targets are often their spouses, children and seniors. There is one thing they often share in common, which is Münchausen syndrome.

They often target people who are dependents upon them. I believe the most common type of female serial killer is the Black Widow. There's also the Angel of Death. In the USA, there has only been one recorded case of a female serial killer who was a sexual predator who acted alone. Around a third of the female serial killers work as a team with a male partner. For instance, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka.

 

[jillio]

To all ADers:

It took me a lot of time and reading but here is what I have found.

I a nutshell, androgen receptor insensitivity is applied to "a failure of NORMAL masculinization of the external genitalia in chromosomally male individuals."
This has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Once again, jillio is wrong. There is no medically accredited acceptable test to prove a person is born straight, nor is there one to prove a person is born gay/lesbian/bi/trans/etc.

You better read some more. Androgen insensitivity is also responsible for masculinization of the brain, and therefore, has a huge impact on attraction. And, if one has a chomosomal male, but female external genitalia, you have a man hormonally that looks like a female. What do we call people who appear to be female that are attracted to other females? Homosexuals. There you go. Biological involvement.

What is a transexual? Someone who has a body that appears to be one sex but hormonally is another sex. There you go. Biological involvement.

Do you ever think anything all the way through or do you always stop when you think you have found an answer to something you obviously have no understanding of?

 

[jillio]

I can refer you to an English Professor from your own University that can help with your distorted reading comprehension.

Funny coming from someone that has been shown, in black and white, to make so many mistakes in what they read.

 

[jillio]

that's fine. I'd like to talk to one to find out why 44 states are in agreement with my distorted thinking.

I'll look one up in your area.:P

 

[jillio]

You are mistaken on that part. Female serial killers are uncommon and they have different goals compared to the male serial killers. It's known that female serial killers kill for material gain, not to fulfill some needs nor to feel in control. Their primary targets are often their spouses, children and seniors. There is one thing they often share in common, which is Münchausen syndrome.

They often target people who are dependents upon them. I believe the most common type of female serial killer is the Black Widow. There's also the Angel of Death. In the USA, there has only been one recorded case of a female serial killer who was a sexual predator who acted alone. Around a third of the female serial killers work as a team with a male partner. For instance, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka.

Exactly. Female serial killers are extremely, extremely rare. In fact, women who commit violent acts such as murder are way down in the minority ranks when compared to men who do.

You know your stuff on this topic. I am impressed.

 

[Banjo]

Exactly. Female serial killers are extremely, extremely rare. In fact, women who commit violent acts such as murder are way down in the minority ranks when compared to men who do.

You know your stuff on this topic. I am impressed.

Thank you, I took social deviance back in college. Since then, I have held a big interest in true crime and such. The Paul and Karla case struck close to home though since it took place in my city.

 

[jillio]

There have been plenty of female serial killers, so the traits are not gender specific.

I am afraid that you don't know what you are talking about again. No one has claimed that traits are gender specific innately. However, gender plays a huge role on how those traits manifest.

 

[jillio]

Thank you, I took social deviance back in college. Since then, I have held a big interest in true crime and such. The Paul and Karla case struck close to home though since it took place in my city.

I knew it was Canada, but I didn't realize it was in your city.

Yes, if more people took an interest in these things, we could find the sociologically and psychologically based reasons for this behavior and do so much more to prevent another occurrance. But sadly, we address the problem from the ass end.

 

[Steinhauer]

You are mistaken on that part. Female serial killers are uncommon and they have different goals compared to the male serial killers. It's known that female serial killers kill for material gain, not to fulfill some needs nor to feel in control. Their primary targets are often their spouses, children and seniors. There is one thing they often share in common, which is Münchausen syndrome.

They often target people who are dependents upon them. I believe the most common type of female serial killer is the Black Widow. There's also the Angel of Death. In the USA, there has only been one recorded case of a female serial killer who was a sexual predator who acted alone. Around a third of the female serial killers work as a team with a male partner. For instance, Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka.

You probably have never heard of Aileen Wuornos. Or Rebecca Turner.

http://www.glennsacks.com/domestic_violence_a_2.htm

Far more men are caught and arrested for it than women. But, actual statistics show that in DV cases, 40% of murders are committed by women.

 

[Steinhauer]

I am afraid that you don't know what you are talking about again. No one has claimed that traits are gender specific innately. However, gender plays a huge role on how those traits manifest.

I am afraid you are putting words in my mouth again in hopes of gaining some sort of invisible advantage in a debate we are not having.

 

[deafskeptic]

She said no such thing. She said serial killers are lacking in empathy. She didn't everyone who is lacking the ability to empathize are serial killers.:roll:

Aspergers? WTF? I said nothing of the sort. If I'm not mistaken, they are unable to understand other people's body language. That does not mean they are without empathy.

 

[deafskeptic]

Exactly. Female serial killers are extremely, extremely rare. In fact, women who commit violent acts such as murder are way down in the minority ranks when compared to men who do.

You know your stuff on this topic. I am impressed.

The only females who can fit the bill would be Countess Bathroy and that was centuries ago and Alieen Wurnos.

 

[deafskeptic]

Thank you, I took social deviance back in college. Since then, I have held a big interest in true crime and such. The Paul and Karla case struck close to home though since it took place in my city.

John List hit close to my home as he was captured in Richmond Va.

 

[Steinhauer]

You better read some more. Androgen insensitivity is also responsible for masculinization of the brain, and therefore, has a huge impact on attraction. And, if one has a chomosomal male, but female external genitalia, you have a man hormonally that looks like a female. What do we call people who appear to be female that are attracted to other females? Homosexuals. There you go. Biological involvement.

What is a transexual? Someone who has a body that appears to be one sex but hormonally is another sex. There you go. Biological involvement.

Do you ever think anything all the way through or do you always stop when you think you have found an answer to something you obviously have no understanding of?

Yep .... like diahrea with wings ....

I am guessing Jamie Lee Curtis didn't get a "choice" in the matter of "her" gender .... there you go. But yeah, that is debateable ...

 

[Banjo]

You probably have never heard of Aileen Wuornos.

I've heard of her, they even made a movie about her. She was a very publicized serial killer. She is an exception though, she killed strangers with a gun. She did it for personal gratification. She had a rough childhood since her father was a sociopath and child molester. She was a woman on a mission and felt that her actions were justified even though they weren't.

Female serial killers often use different methods other than guns. For instance, poisoning is one of the most common methods they use to kill people. They are more likely to kill people they have developed a personal relationship with, not total strangers.

Are you familiar with the famous serial killer, Elizabeth Báthory?