Baby born deaf will get 'bionic ears' that could help him hear and talk

Lots of passive aggressive behavior in this thread. Not helpful.

How much you like your HAs depends, in large part, on the kind of hearing loss that you have. I have an ambivalent relationship with my HAs because of mid-frequency loss and recruitment. Sounds are very distorted.

The grammar freak in me must say that "irregardless" is not a word. :P
 
Bebonang said:
It was the same with Native Americans (Families) in both Canada and United States forced to put into the reservation and native children were made to go to the residential school forcing them to change their customs, native languages and traditions. The native children had lots of abuse and were not happy in the residential school. Just because the society and the government want them to be like them as the Whites don't want to change their ways at all.

This was how many deaf children have to put up with hearing parents and "professional authorities" thinking that they are thinking of changing their deafness status to hear and listen especially with CI which is still continuing just like when we are struggling with hearing aids. There is no change at all anyway.

The problem with Native children changing the way with customs, native languages and traditions plus deaf children putting up being forced to do what the hearing parents wants is that many people would rather have an easy way out when they are not listening to any one of us at all and being sooooo superior saying "I have the answers to my children and the children will have to do what I say whether they like or not". They are not helping any of the children at all to be themselves as who they are. The society and the hearing parents are pushing the Native and Deaf children to do what they want.

That is what make us suffer the most and the worse abuse for anyone to tell us what we are suppose to do when we could not do it just to please the hearing society. We are deaf (severe and profound). We are not like the hearing people so wake up. The Hard of Hearing (mild and moderate) seem to have it easy to deal with hearing. No problem but that is a whole different subject all together.
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You are absolutely correct. The Native Americans have experienced the very same things.
 
Bebonang said:
It was the same with Native Americans (Families) in both Canada and United States forced to put into the reservation and native children were made to go to the residential school forcing them to change their customs, native languages and traditions. The native children had lots of abuse and were not happy in the residential school. Just because the society and the government want them to be like them as the Whites don't want to change their ways at all.

This was how many deaf children have to put up with hearing parents and "professional authorities" thinking that they are thinking of changing their deafness status to hear and listen especially with CI which is still continuing just like when we are struggling with hearing aids. There is no change at all anyway.

The problem with Native children changing the way with customs, native languages and traditions plus deaf children putting up being forced to do what the hearing parents wants is that many people would rather have an easy way out when they are not listening to any one of us at all and being sooooo superior saying "I have the answers to my children and the children will have to do what I say whether they like or not". They are not helping any of the children at all to be themselves as who they are. The society and the hearing parents are pushing the Native and Deaf children to do what they want.

That is what make us suffer the most and the worse abuse for anyone to tell us what we are suppose to do when we could not do it just to please the hearing society. We are deaf (severe and profound). We are not like the hearing people so wake up. The Hard of Hearing (mild and moderate) seem to have it easy to deal with hearing. No problem but that is a whole different subject all together.
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That's exactly what the Native Americans told me after I told them about my oral upbringing on a different forum years ago.
 
sallylou said:
Lots of passive aggressive behavior in this thread. Not helpful.

How much you like your HAs depends, in large part, on the kind of hearing loss that you have. I have an ambivalent relationship with my HAs because of mid-frequency loss and recruitment. Sounds are very distorted.

The grammar freak in me must say that "irregardless" is not a word. :P
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Thank you, thank you, thank you, and bless your grammar-lovin' little heart!!:ty:
 
sallylou said:
Lots of passive aggressive behavior in this thread. Not helpful.

How much you like your HAs depends, in large part, on the kind of hearing loss that you have. I have an ambivalent relationship with my HAs because of mid-frequency loss and recruitment. Sounds are very distorted.

The grammar freak in me must say that "irregardless" is not a word. :P
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I noticed... It didn't make sense, and I actually looked up irregardless. The reason it did not make sense to me is because it says "not regardless" so I was a bit thrown off but since I was nice, I did not say anything.

I try not to point out mistakes, because I have a ton myself.
 
I've got grammar compulsion. I'm not a punctuation Nazi,though. Informal writing here anyway.
 
sallylou said:
Lots of passive aggressive behavior in this thread. Not helpful.

How much you like your HAs depends, in large part, on the kind of hearing loss that you have. I have an ambivalent relationship with my HAs because of mid-frequency loss and recruitment. Sounds are very distorted.

The grammar freak in me must say that "irregardless" is not a word. :P
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I can only speak for myself. I only have one ear with working parts and that ear has a 90db loss. Most of what I hear is static. It's still awesome to me. And that was my point. Just because it is not a miracle to some does not mean the same applies to all. Can't wait to get my CI. If others don't want one that is their choice.
 
Sounds like you have more realistic expectations about what technology can do for us. Maybe the secret to being happy is to have low expectations? lol
 
Funny thing about that. Sometimes low expectations can be the secret to happiness; sometimes having high expectations and high standards can do it. The trick is to know which situation calls for what!
 
sallylou said:
Sounds like you have more realistic expectations about what technology can do for us. Maybe the secret to being happy is to have low expectations? lol
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I would say the secret to being happy is to have no expectations. My grandfather used to say, "He who expects nothing will in no wise be disappointed.":P
 
TXgolfer said:
I can only speak for myself. I only have one ear with working parts and that ear has a 90db loss. Most of what I hear is static. It's still awesome to me. And that was my point. Just because it is not a miracle to some does not mean the same applies to all. Can't wait to get my CI. If others don't want one that is their choice.
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:ty:
 
sallylou said:
Sounds like you have more realistic expectations about what technology can do for us. Maybe the secret to being happy is to have low expectations? lol
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When I ordered the first one about 5 years ago I didn't expect it to help at all. I got it because it was risk free for 30 days so what the heck. I hated it at first but stuck with the plan. After 3 weeks I loved it. Tried a new improved one 2 years later (Nadia). Because it was risk free.....even though my natural hearing had decreased the new aid worked better. In 2 years there was big improvement (for me anyway). I have alot of hope for tech based on my experience.
 
Beach girl said:
Do you have any of the accessories with it? The iCom and all that?
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Is that the phone thingy? If so yes....but I never used it. However my hearing has improved some so when I go back to Dallas next weekend I may try it.
 
jillo, you are right. There are many audist parents out there. Heck, this generation is so hardcore that it's now even skipping using the oral schools, except for preschool in some cases. . While I disagree with oral only option, at least oral schools do give a better education then a solotaire oral program. It also can be a good option for kids who actually chose oral only, but have crappy supports in their local schools or have hit the fourth grade glass ceiling.
I do commend parents like Csign and Callumsmum, who are openminded....and heck I've got some hope since there are parents of hoh kids, who are now putting them in Dhh programs or Deaf School or teaching them ASL as a second language.
The difference is that I've made a point to give my child access to language through sign and voice. I would suspect a significant portion of those with lower reading levels didn't have consistent access to language. I, like Calumsmom am providing him with language. There is a reason why his reading and grammar scores are in the highly superior range.
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Agreed.
Oral only kids tend to still have issues with written language expression.....and unfortunatly that can't generally be remediated in a hearing school's Resource Room. So the kid gets socially promoted b/c everyone knows that oral kids have issues with written English and there's nothing anyone can do.
 
I'm sorry for this mum feeling hurted, but I guess it can happen sometimes... To hurt, and to be hurted. These are chances of growth, but when you're at the beginning of your child's deaf journey, you feel everything deeper. It still happens to me after 1 year, to be hurt when someone says "Without CI a child will have huge problems with language", or at the opposite "Without early exposure to SL a child will have huge problems with language". We lay in both those circumstances :roll: Yet I do hope my child will do well, and I know that the pain if he will talk, write or read badly will mostly be MINE, not HIS. I am the one who wants his child to be as others. He has no need for this.

That's basically what I don't understand other parents most of the time, and I have a problem to get along with them: is it so hard to admit you do it FOR YOURSELF??? I don't like the word audism, but damn, I know what I would have wanted as a hearing person: a child who is like me. It' human. It's easier, if you can live in your golden dreamy world and believe your children are just like you (at least until teenage:lol:then you find out you were sooo wrong!!). Why do I want him to talk, and possibly listen? It's easier for me. I'm scared at the idea of a SL only child: will I ever be able to sign so well? Will I ever be able to understand him? I am the one who needs to work on his oral language NOW. He has no need for it, and no one in the world knows what his future will be. Is it so bad to admit this? We can't help being hearing just like our children can't help being deaf. The easiest way for them to communicate is SL. The easiest thing to do for us is to teach them to talk. Since we are in love with each other, we try to meet somewhere in the middle... Which, in my opinion, is not bad at all. But I have no problem in admitting the reason I make him wear his HA is for ME, for my well-being, to make me feel like I'm giving him a chance to come closer to my world while I work on myself every day to get closer to his world. He has accepted his aids, and all I have to say to him is "thanks" for that. I know he's doing it for me.
Parents have feelings too, and sometimes you just have to admit you're not able to overcome your feelings. It's ok. But I prefer to admit that this is the reason for my choice of HA or CI. Some parents told me "I do it for his future well-being, as an adult". But you know nothing about that adult. He doesn't exist for me. I have a 2yo, Deaf to the bone, and that's the reality I have to live with. And yes, I need to make him walk a little to meet me in a middle way, as he needs me to do the same. HA or CI is what we ask these children to do FOR US, in my opinion. SL is something we simply owe them.
 
MessyMama, that is exactly why I support BOTH. Yes, kids if possible should be able to develop spoken language skills. But parents should also meet their dhh kids halfway and learn ASL for THEM!
Bi-bi needs to learn from spoken language bi bi programs, like the one my friend Sarah was in. In the morning it was English, in the afternoon it was French.
 
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