Cochlear Implant Patients.

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faire_jour said:
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and what about all the post BEFORE those telling deafy that he is limiting himself, that they are in denial et al?
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In this thread? I don't see it. Let me go back ot the first page.. I don't even think Deaffy was brought up...
 
posts from hell said:
In this thread? I don't see it. Let me go back ot the first page.. I don't even think Deaffy was brought up...
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Alright, I went and read the first 40 posts - Deaffy was never brought up once.

I'm talking about zebadee here and only here. If you have a problem with someone discounting deaffy - take it up in the appropriate thread, please.
 
PFH if this was the first time I have witnessed this type of bullying before on this forum I would simply ignore it and be gone from this thread. But I have been here over a year, and have seen this type of stuff happen alot with people seeking CI's. I respect you for not getting one. I give your input on alot of thing's some thought because you yourself have gone through many of the same thing's I have and what Zee is about to go through. There is no cut and dry way for a individual to deal with deafness. So to try to coerce someone to seek other avenues to deal with their issue's is plain out wrong. I never ever told anyone on here to go get a CI and that ASL and tactile methods are worthless or anything else for that matter.. What works for some does not work for everyone. I really just wish everyone here would get along, but the sad reality is we wont. I came into this thread to give Z my input on my journey with the CI. And I did the very best I could. IT sucks that a 18 year old young man has lost his hearing and was scared. I lost mine at 23 and seen the way my life changed. I Chose to get the CI for my own personal reason's. Mind you it took me 10 long years to come to that conclusion. I attempted to take ASL classes at the Louisiana school for the deaf. And it was difficult to achieve success when I was placed in a " after school" class setting in a all hearing class. It just does not work for everyone.
 
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Then post #40 - ASL was FIRST brought up and in a discounting manner by who?????? http://www.alldeaf.com/hearing-aids...70-cochlear-implant-patients.html#post1721599

After that, we also tried to correct him, to no avail.

Which leads us to this point. :)

Next, Deaffy.
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so what! He has every right to despise ASL, if he wants to. He didn't drop into an ASL thread and say that.

and again, the attacks on deafy's self worth and identity? The purpose behind those? By saying that CI users are ignorant or in denial, that somehow makes ASL look better?
 
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so what! He has every right to despise ASL, if he wants to. He didn't drop into an ASL thread and say that.

and again, the attacks on deafy's self worth and identity? The purpose behind those? By saying that CI users are ignorant or in denial, that somehow makes ASL look better?
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Deaffy said:
PFH if this was the first time I have witnessed this type of bullying before on this forum I would simply ignore it and be gone from this thread. But I have been here over a year, and have seen this type of stuff happen alot with people seeking CI's. I respect you for not getting one. I give your input on alot of thing's some thought because you yourself have gone through many of the same thing's I have and what Zee is about to go through. There is no cut and dry way for a individual to deal with deafness. So to try to coerce someone to seek other avenues to deal with their issue's is plain out wrong. I never ever told anyone on here to go get a CI and that ASL and tactile methods are worthless or anything else for that matter.. What works for some does not work for everyone. I really just wish everyone here would get along, but the sad reality is we wont. I came into this thread to give Z my input on my journey with the CI. And I did the very best I could. IT sucks that a 18 year old young man has lost his hearing and was scared. I lost mine at 23 and seen the way my life changed. I Chose to get the CI for my own personal reason's. Mind you it took me 10 long years to come to that conclusion. I attempted to take ASL classes at the Louisiana school for the deaf. And it was difficult to achieve success when I was placed in a " after school" class setting in a all hearing class. It just does not work for everyone.
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Dude - I've always respected you. Hence the reason I asked you if something was bothering you lately...
If you have really followed me closely - I have never once said getting CI is bad for late deafened people... At least it is their choice.

Again, I have to say - I am simply correcting the misinformation that is being dropped along the way in big chunks and having a kick out of it. You can see that as well. It's not because of the CI itself. It's because of the poster undoing. Nothing related to the CI.

I have provided links - Do you want me to provide links to show where multiple members (including people with CI's) telling the poster to have some ounce of respect in the wee hours of this thread development?
 
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Deafy, would you mind linking to a few of jillio's earlier posts saying that you were limiting yourself because you didn't view yourself as culturally Deaf? I am on my phone and can't search or copy and paste.
 
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Deafy, would you mind linking to a few of jillio's earlier posts saying that you were limiting yourself because you didn't view yourself as culturally Deaf? I am on my phone and can't search or copy and paste.
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Ah no need - I remember that. I agree with Jillio though.

Deafness does NOT cause depression, bad English, society looking down upon these who are deaf. That was the point.....
 
BRB I am searching for when I was personally attacked with my self-worth and denial and such. It is here FJ is correct. Granit I " sort" of brought it upon myself for telling Jillio that I believed her sarcasm was inappropriate here in this thread. But the insight she proceeded with had absoutely nothing to do with this thread at all.. I am a pretty easy going guy for the most part. But I do not like being told by someone that does not know me well at all other than the fact that I am Deaf and that I have a CI, That I need to seek professional help with dealing with my emotions and deafness and that I am copping out by getting a CI and not seeking the other options. Thats why I have been upset with jillio. It is here somewhere around page 10 or so... not sure I will find it tho.
 
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BRB I am searching for when I was personally attacked with my self-worth and denial and such. It is here FJ is correct. Granit I " sort" of brought it upon myself for telling Jillio that I believed her sarcasm was inappropriate here in this thread. But the insight she proceeded with had absoutely nothing to do with this thread at all.. I am a pretty easy going guy for the most part. But I do not like being told by someone that does not know me well at all other than the fact that I am Deaf and that I have a CI, That I need to seek professional help with dealing with my emotions and deafness and that I am copping out by getting a CI and not seeking the other options. Thats why I have been upset with jillio. It is here somewhere around page 10 or so... not sure I will find it tho.
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Like I said, no need.
 
That's the thing.. Born deaf do not see it as "Depression" because they never was able to experience the many many things I used to be able to. You don't seem to realise that I enjoyed listening to bird's Chirp or the sound of someone telling you " I LOVE YOU" sure it took me a long time to deal with that. But to tell me it doesn't cause depression is fked up. It had nothing to do with SOCIETY. It has everything to do with how much my life was flipped upside down.
 
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That's the thing.. Born deaf do not see it as "Depression" because they never was able to experience the many many things I used to be able to. You don't seem to realise that I enjoyed listening to bird's Chirp or the sound of someone telling you " I LOVE YOU" sure it took me a long time to deal with that. But to tell me it doesn't cause depression is fked up. It had nothing to do with SOCIETY. It has everything to do with how much my life was flipped upside down.
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I'll just leave it at that, I see it differently though. The reason: I have quite a few late deafened friends. Made a new one last night, matter of a fact.
 
I want you to know that by my last post I am not seeking a ( poor me) response from anyone. I am simply stating how my situation affected me. Ofcourse this was many years ago and I have since seen things a bit different and have grown more into who I am as a deaf person because now I know it's never going to be the same again.
 
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Deaffy said:
BRB I am searching for when I was personally attacked with my self-worth and denial and such. It is here FJ is correct. Granit I " sort" of brought it upon myself for telling Jillio that I believed her sarcasm was inappropriate here in this thread. But the insight she proceeded with had absoutely nothing to do with this thread at all.. I am a pretty easy going guy for the most part. But I do not like being told by someone that does not know me well at all other than the fact that I am Deaf and that I have a CI, That I need to seek professional help with dealing with my emotions and deafness and that I am copping out by getting a CI and not seeking the other options. Thats why I have been upset with jillio. It is here somewhere around page 10 or so... not sure I will find it tho.
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and is it a coincidence that the poster here, arguing and attacking this poster (and the others with CIs) is the same that attacks parents and oral deaf adults for being in denial, ignorant, social outcasts and so on?
 
Deaffy said:
I want you to know that by my last post I am not seeking a ( poor me) response from anyone. I am simply stating how my situation affected me. Ofcourse this was many years ago and I have since seen things a bit different and have grown more into who I am as a deaf person because now I know it's never going to be the same again.
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I didnt see it that way either. Just that I've seen different results and I have high expectations due to these results.
 
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and is it a coincidence that the poster here, arguing and attacking this poster (and the others with CIs) is the same that attacks parents and oral deaf adults for being in denial, ignorant, social outcasts and so on?
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please start posting nicely.
 
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posts from hell said:
Deaffy said:
BRB I am searching for when I was personally attacked with my self-worth and denial and such. It is here FJ is correct. Granit I " sort" of brought it upon myself for telling Jillio that I believed her sarcasm was inappropriate here in this thread. But the insight she proceeded with had absoutely nothing to do with this thread at all.. I am a pretty easy going guy for the most part. But I do not like being told by someone that does not know me well at all other than the fact that I am Deaf and that I have a CI, That I need to seek professional help with dealing with my emotions and deafness and that I am copping out by getting a CI and not seeking the other options. Thats why I have been upset with jillio. It is here somewhere around page 10 or so... not sure I will find it tho.
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Like I said, no need.
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so you acknowledge it, does that mean that you agree with it or that you think it was appropriate?
 
faire_jour said:
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and is it a coincidence that the poster here, arguing and attacking this poster (and the others with CIs) is the same that attacks parents and oral deaf adults for being in denial, ignorant, social outcasts and so on?
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I have witnessed these types of things going on in the CI section of this site. I truely thought this section of the site was for CI-HA users to discuss the devices and how they work and what not. Never did I think personal attacks for user's would be fronted here.
 
zebadee2010 said:
I know when to use your and you're, i just prefer not to. Deaf people misuse language all the time. But you don't because your not deaf. Why are you even here. This is alldeaf.com and you aren't deaf at all. Perhaps if you had chosen to get your son a CI, you wouldn't be in here bashing me for getting one.
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:laugh2: You really are a hoot. You've been hearing for 18 years of your life. Now you try to use deafness as an excuse for your poor English?

Why am I here? I already explained that. Trouble with your memory? Question is, why are you here? You don't appear to like deafness nor deaf people very much at all.:cool2:
 
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