Do you believe in death penalty

Do you believe in the death penity?

  • Yes

    Votes: 14 42.4%

  • No

    Votes: 8 24.2%

  • Only for certain reasons

    Votes: 9 27.3%

  • other

    Votes: 2 6.1%
  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .
Yeah, heard Siberia... really scary place!

It is really middle of nowhere, which makes escape very risky.

souggy said:
Prisons are not filling up because of lack of death penalty, but rather lack of proper rehab among repeat offenders.

Plus... no one have heard of Siberia? :lol:
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I would love to see these 100 lbs iron ball shackled with their legs so that they can't easily escape.
 
Beowulf said:
Quite the bloodthirsty bugger, aren't you? :lol:

(relax, I am just pulling your leg)
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Oh well....for those of us that's SEEN a horrific murder for no reason...and it being a family member, perhaps feel the way I do about the death penalty. I could say more, but don't want to rehash this all over again. It's just my opinion, not everyone else.....as for being "bloodthirsty"...ask the man who killed my mother, Beowulf....I was just a child! Now an adult, but memories are still there....If the state would have not given him the sentence, more than likely, one of my family members would have carried it out, myself included....he left 6 of us homeless.....all under the age of 17.
 
Once a human being shows the capacity to take a life of another human being without cause or reason, that individual needs to be put down for the safety of everyone, including guards and other inmates as well as people in general.

Yiz
 
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yizuman said:
Once a human being shows the capacity to take a life of another human being without cause or reason, that individual needs to be put down for the safety of everyone, including guards and other inmates as well as people in general.

Yiz
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Problem is... I don't know a case where murderers or serial killers don't have a sense of jusification for what they have done. We may not see things from their point of view, but they all have a cause or a reason.
 
souggy said:
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Problem is... I don't know a case where murderers or serial killers don't have a sense of jusification for what they have done. We may not see things from their point of view, but they all have a cause or a reason.
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Yep, it is their karma, otherwise it wouldn't have happened.
 
rockin'robin said:
Oh well....for those of us that's SEEN a horrific murder for no reason...and it being a family member, perhaps feel the way I do about the death penalty. I could say more, but don't want to rehash this all over again. It's just my opinion, not everyone else.....as for being "bloodthirsty"...ask the man who killed my mother, Beowulf....I was just a child! Now an adult, but memories are still there....If the state would have not given him the sentence, more than likely, one of my family members would have carried it out, myself included....he left 6 of us homeless.....all under the age of 17.
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I just don't know what to say, rockin'robin. I have also lost family and close friends to murder, and I admit that my first inclination was to rip out the offender's lungs. However, I find that talking with a psychotherapist does WONDERS to my frame of mind. I moved to another city a week ago and I have already made a bi-weekly appointment with a new psychotherapist. You ought to check into it if you still have powerful feelings. Hang in there! [hugs]
 
Once a human being shows the capacity to take a life of another human being without cause or reason, that individual needs to be put down for the safety of everyone, including guards and other inmates as well as people in general.
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I think yizuman means people who completely and totally randomly commit random hard crimes like rape or murder. (most random crime tends to be stuff like stealing or holdups or whatever)
Most crime tends to be targeted. Meaning things like domestic violence murders are more common then In Cold Blood style murders.
Granted people who randomly commit hard crimes tend to be kind of rare. Which is good. But there ARE sociopaths who are SO dangerous and screwed up that they should be punished PROFOUNDLY, and put down for the safety of society.
Most people in jail are just there b/c they made a mistake or two. But the sociopaths who randomly commit hard crimes are DANGEROUS. They aren't just people who are hardcore on the outside, and a scared little kid on the inside....they are freaking hardcore INHUMANE. Again, I'm quite libral and am not demonizing ALL criminals. I'm simply reconizing the fact that there are extremely hardcore socio/psychopaths with NO human qualities whatsoever!
 
deafdyke said:
I think yizuman means people who completely and totally randomly commit random hard crimes like rape or murder. (most random crime tends to be stuff like stealing or holdups or whatever)
Most crime tends to be targeted. Meaning things like domestic violence murders are more common then In Cold Blood style murders.
Granted people who randomly commit hard crimes tend to be kind of rare. Which is good. But there ARE sociopaths who are SO dangerous and screwed up that they should be punished PROFOUNDLY, and put down for the safety of society.
Most people in jail are just there b/c they made a mistake or two. But the sociopaths who randomly commit hard crimes are DANGEROUS. They aren't just people who are hardcore on the outside, and a scared little kid on the inside....they are freaking hardcore INHUMANE. Again, I'm quite libral and am not demonizing ALL criminals. I'm simply reconizing the fact that there are extremely hardcore socio/psychopaths with NO human qualities whatsoever!
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Lock them up for life in maximum security. Really, what are the chances of escape?
 
Even sociopaths are not random. They appear random, but they are not random. But when you listen to their interviews... it's disturbing how rational they are.
 
souggy said:
Even sociopaths are not random. They appear random, but they are not random. But when you listen to their interviews... it's disturbing how rational they are.
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True. Just look at our government.
 
diehardbiker said:
Wait! Sociopath is a medical illness right? Of course it is Mental health, and it falls under medical category.

Then why we prohibit terminal illness patients from assist suicide? Those are under medical category too, and the patient has absolutely certain that they are gonna die soon anyway. Yet assisted suicide is still prohibited and they continue to suffer inhumanely.

I see this as conflict politically.
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Yes, sopciopath is a medical, psychiatric diagnosis.
 
deafdyke said:
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Not ALL sociopaths. Extreme sociopaths. It wouldn't be all " Oh sociopaths don't have a right to life so let's execute them enmasse" It would be on a very indivdual case by case basis. Just as an option to use if needed in really really bad cases.
Besides sociopathy isn't a mental illness. It's more like a state of being human while having no real human qualities like empathy.
I DO think however, that things like unpaid labor and max solitary, as well as making sure that sociopaths NEVER get out of jail should be used to isolate sociopaths from society.
Sociopaths are dangerous. Very. They cause a LOT of hurt and harm to people.
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Sociopathy most definately is a mental illness. It falls into the category of personality disorders, diagnosed on Axis II.

But again, who decides what constitutes extreme?
 
souggy said:
Even sociopaths are not random. They appear random, but they are not random. But when you listen to their interviews... it's disturbing how rational they are.
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They are usually extremely intelligent and manipulative. And, according to their reality, which is dependent upon their disorder, their actions make perfect sense and are quite logical to them. Even a sane person can detect the logic and pattern of thought.
 
jillo, just to clarify. I'm NOT a bloodthirsty right winger.
I'm not "eye for an eye"
I DO however think that there are crimes SO horrendous and extreme AND perpetrated by such horrible fuckers that those...THINGS need to be executed.
You really can't say who would be excuted. It would be done on a case by case basis...but it would be reserved for VERY horrendous crimes. Like the Bernardo/Holmolka murders.
Even with the fact that a lot of people are in jail b/c of drug issues/addiction or just b/c they made a mistake, there are still tons of very screwed up twisted sociopaths. Some of them are severe....and some of those NEED to be executed. It WOULD be an option that was available, but it would be VERY strictly used.
Even sociopaths are not random. They appear random, but they are not random. But when you listen to their interviews... it's disturbing how rational they are.
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I know. I'm pretty much a true crime buff. Off the top of my head I know that a lot of the serial killers who targeted prosistutes did so b/c they thought they were "cleaning up" society.
 
Beowulf said:
Lock them up for life in maximum security. Really, what are the chances of escape?
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There's still a chance. Why lock'em up for life and put the lives of guards & inmates in danger? If an inmate is bound and determined to kill again, they'll find a way to do it.

Putting them down eliminates any chances of that happening again. Period.

Yiz
 
And jillo, to clarify, sociopathy is a profoundly aberrant mental condition, not nessarily a mental illness per se. There's a reason why it's not classfied on the same axis as depression or scheziophernia or bipolar.
 
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