Boy, 7, dies in apparent trespass shooting

[Liebling:-)))]

Again - see above. You started with "Germany" in your post #3. and see post #20. Jillio started to compare America with Germany, not me. and also to question me by comparing America to Germany - see jillio's post #22.

You deny it.

Re-read your own post.

Jiro´s post #19 - You are NOT UNDERSTANDING the issue that gun restriction does not solve anything. This is something that we have better common sense than German government.

In order to stay on topic - I used Texas instead of America - hence my post #46. Are you trying to derail your own thread? Your thread's about 7-years old being killed in Texas. Not USA, not Germany. TEXAS!

Okay, if you want to use Texas to compare with other states then pick Berlin or Frankfurt to compare with Texas because Berlin or Frankfurt is state of Germany. If you want to use country to compare with other country, then use Germany vs the USA, not the country compare with the state of other country.

 

[Jiro]

It´s not hard to count the population per capital to how many population between Germany and USA...

You can see the % per 1,000 population.

Murders with firearms (per capita) (most recent) by country

Murders with firearms (per capita) by country. Definition, graph and map.


Gun Violence homicides by country. Definition, graph and map.

Murders with firearms statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

Homicides > Gun Violence statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

Homicides > Gun Violence statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

Gun Violence homicides (most recent) by country


It´s about just Gun violence.

Nice try...

I see that you're most likely being coached by Jillio That's ok. Here's a few serious flaws in your logic (and Jillio's) -

1. Germany and USA are 2 completely different countries in terms of cultural difference, racial diversity, geographical factors, and several other variables.
2. these statistics above are largely caused by CRIMINALS WITH ILLEGAL GUNS (which can be lowered if gun restriction is eased down)

Nice try but your argument is very weak. See my post #95. Nobody commented on it. I'm beginning to wonder how you and Jillio are any different from abortion pro-lifers....

 

[Jiro]

Okay, if you want to use Texas to compare with other states then pick Berlin or Frankfurt to compare with Texas because Berlin or Frankfurt is state of Germany. If you want to use country to compare with other country, then use Germany vs the USA, not the country compare with the state of other country.

but but but... Texas is nearly as big as Germany

 

[Liebling:-)))]

No I don't have a problem with Germany because I don't live in there BUT I don't appreciate Liebling's comments in demanding that we should have a knee-jerk reaction in tightening up our gun law over one/few incidents and also making false statements about our gun laws.

off-topic for a moment -
Crime Stats - Germany & USA
Gun violence > Homicides > % homicides with firearms
USA - 39.5604%
Germany - 28.5714%

Interesting.... only 10.989% difference.... I guess Germany's tighter gun laws are pretty useless.....

Thank you very much for wonderful link...

This is total crime, not gun violence.

See my post # 140. It´s about gun violence per capit.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

but but but... Texas is nearly as big as Germany

No matter how size our country is but count how many % per 1,000 population of country. Is it not hard to math it?

 

[Jiro]

No matter how size our country is but count how many % per 1,000 population of country. Is it not hard to math it?

please educate yourself more on details of those math. Majority of cases are caused by CRIMINALS WITH ILLEGAL GUNS such as robberies, gang wars, drug wars, etc. It's not hard to understand, right?

How can we protect ourself against CRIMINALS WITH ILLEGAL GUNS? What's your solution for that? Please tell me

 

[Liebling:-)))]

texas is the same size of Germany, isn't it?

No, Germany is an around half size of Texas.

Texas´s population is 24 million and Germany´s population is over 82 million.

 

[Jiro]

Thank you very much for wonderful link...

This is total crime, not gun violence.

See my post # 140. It´s about gun violence per capit.

Please re-read my post very carefully and slowly. That statistic I posted about "Gun violence > Homicides > % homicides with firearms". That is NOT Total Crime. It's the statistic strictly limited to GUN-RELATED.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

same thing!!


Too many? yea that's what happen when you live in a huge country with big population and huge diversity... which your country does not have

Not same thing.

If you don´t know what the word "SHOULD" mean then check with definition because it´s not same as DEMAND.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

how do you test for common sense???

I thought you know the logical when I say "test" :roll:

Literacy test... I mean how to use their common sense to be responsible gun owner.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

but the automobiles kill more children than guns. Let's have tighter automobile restriction!!! I guess it's your country's typical answer to any problem - BAN BAN BAN or RESTRICT RESTRICT RESTRICT. Thanks god my country isn't Thought Police or Moral Police or ---- Police.

Really?

Murders committed by youths per capita by country. Definition, graph and map.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I think most gun crime in Germany are mostly kids if you are looking for that statistics compare to Germany. I can't really see adult going to a germany high school for shooting.

Murders committed by youths per capita by country. Definition, graph and map.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

No I don't have a problem with Germany because I don't live in there BUT I don't appreciate Liebling's comments in demanding that we should have a knee-jerk reaction in tightening up our gun law over one/few incidents and also making false statements about our gun laws.

off-topic for a moment -
Crime Stats - Germany & USA
Gun violence > Homicides > % homicides with firearms
USA - 39.5604%
Germany - 28.5714%

Interesting.... only 10.989% difference.... I guess Germany's tighter gun laws are pretty useless.....

http://www.alldeaf.com/1322137-post140.html


Germany gun violence is 6 times low than the USA.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

again.... HOW??????????????

I thought you use common sense to know the logical..

Literacy test for gun owner

Again - many crimes are committed by criminals with ILLEGAL GUNS. I'm VERY CONCERNED for LAWFUL people who cannot carry guns to protect themselves from CRIMINALS.

To back your statement - Please show me statistic on number of LAWFUL CITIZENS committing crimes vs. number of CRIMINALS with ILLEGAL GUNS.

Illegal gun.. See?

that´s why I often say in my POV that it should tight the gun control.

 

[Jiro]

I thought you know the logical when I say "test" :roll:

Literacy test... I mean how to use their common sense to be responsible gun owner.

I'm sorry but it's not my responsibility for your misunderstanding. Please do not assume that I know what you're talking about because your understanding of English language and my understanding of English language are different.

Literacy Test. Do you know what Literacy Test is? It means if you can read and write (as well as speak and listen). Why in the world would you need to test a potential gun owner for their literacy?

 

[Jiro]

Illegal gun.. See?

that´s why I often say in my POV that it should tight the gun control.

ok. Agree To Disagree.

Here's a little American history for you - We banned alcohol. We tightened drug law. and what happened? waste of money and high crime rates and many innocents died. EPIC FAIL!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

because I'm a strong believer in Constitution since it represents freedom, personal responsibility, free thinking, and free choice. Restricting/Banning Amendment 2 means - you're willing to submit yourself to government with blind obedience and to trust the police in protecting you..... remember Third Reich?

• "No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -Thomas Jefferson
• "...to disarm the people - that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason
• "Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." -James Madison
• "Carrying a gun is a social responsibility." -Boatman
• "A citizen who shirks his duty to contribute to the security of his community is little better than the criminal who threatens it." -Boatman

Ever wonder why Switzerland wasn't never occupied in WW2?

I respect your belief but innocent people including children/students, I concern about.

 

[Lighthouse77]

Murders committed by youths per capita by country. Definition, graph and map.

It seems to be counting U.S. as whole.

Germany is almost the same size of Texas.. Of course it will have less crime than U.S. How about comparing it to Texas.. in youth crime.

 

[Lighthouse77]

I thought you use common sense to know the logical..

Literacy test for gun owner



Illegal gun.. See?

that´s why I often say in my POV that it should tight the gun control.

LOL did you really think hillbillies don't know how to read? how do you think they wrote that sign? They went to school too.

 

[Jiro]

I respect your belief but innocent people including children/students, I concern about.

yes. what about homeowners with pools in backyard? Many children died. What about drugs? suicides? parent abuses? automobiles? I'm far more concerned about those than children deaths caused by guns.