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I didn't know that. I thought banned members simply received the PM when they were no longer banned. I'll resend you the PM Hear Again.
 
ncff07 said:
it might be the pm thing here. i tried to send Hear Again a pm too before i knew she was banned and it let me type a message and click send. maybe he did the same thing?
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That's exactly what I did. I didn't even know she was banned when I sent her the PM.
 
Hear Again said:
nika,

if you think you need to be hospitalized, there's nothing stopping from you from calling 911 and asking for help. if you're actively suicidal, you will be placed in a psych ward for a 72 hour hold.
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Except that I can't afford it. I've seen my girlfriend get kicked out of the hospital when she was in her most vulnerable state because she or her parents couldn't foot the bill. I don't want to end up in that situation.
 
Nika said:
Except that I can't afford it. I've seen my girlfriend get kicked out of the hospital when she was in her most vulnerable state because she or her parents couldn't foot the bill. I don't want to end up in that situation.
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then you need to get yourself on medicaid asap. they will pay the entire cost of your hospitalization. they've always paid for mine. the hospitalization i had for my first manic/psychotic episode in 2006 was for a little over a month and i didn't have to pay a cent of that.
 
Nika said:
Except that I can't afford it. I've seen my girlfriend get kicked out of the hospital when she was in her most vulnerable state because she or her parents couldn't foot the bill. I don't want to end up in that situation.
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if one is actively suicidal, a hospital will not kick you out. they will continue treating you as an indigent until you are well enough to be discharged.
 
Hear Again said:
if one is actively suicidal, a hospital will not kick you out. they will continue treating you as an indigent until you are well enough to be discharged.
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Exatly. It is against the law to release someone known to be actively suicidal. In addition, the social worker at the hospital can assist you with financial arrangements.

I agree. If you are actively suicidal, call 911. You will be transported to a hospital where you can be protected from yourself immediately. Reporting that you are suicidal to a message board only serves to wreak havoc. The best anyone can do in the case of a probable suicide attempt is to track you through your IP address and send emergency personel to your location. Either way, you will end up being hopsitalized. That is in the case of a probable attempt.

In the case of a veiled threat, nothing will be done, and after more than one such threat, you will begin to be viewed as the "boy who cried wolf" and most likely ignored.
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
Yeah, that was the post that made me go "WTF" since you were still banned when he said he sent you a PM. You cannot PM a person that is currently banned.
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really? I thought you can send PM to banned AD but that person cannot reply.
 
ncff07 said:
it might be the pm thing here. i tried to send Hear Again a pm too before i knew she was banned and it let me type a message and click send. maybe he did the same thing?
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the only pm i received was from sg informing me that i would be banned for the next 24 hours.
 
Jiro said:
really? I thought you can send PM to banned AD but that person cannot reply.
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From one who has experienced this:giggle:: I have found PMs that were sent while I was banned waiting for me in my PM box when I returned. I just could not view them or reply to them until the ban was lifted.
 
jillio said:
From one who has experienced this:giggle:: I have found PMs that were sent while I was banned waiting for me in my PM box when I returned. I just could not view them or reply to them until the ban was lifted.
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that's why it's routed to my email. i can read the message but cannot reply.
 
Somehow I had this gut feeling Nika was going to be fine the next day or two, but a part of me didn't want to say it publicly because I had a feeling it wasn't going to be taken the right way.

From one of my important professors a few years ago -- from some suicide statistical data she mentioned very clearly that people who verbally state suicidal thoughts for the most part, *usually* but not always, never follow up on their original intent. It's the ones that seem withdrawn and you could easily differentiate the personality behaviors in reality by a mile away.

I just didn't feel it was appropriate to post at that time, because it for one was not going to be taken seriously. Just my two cents over the issue.
 
whether or not nika had intentions of committing suicide, his post was a cry for help. suicide attempts should never be taken lightly no matter who they come from.
 
naisho said:
Somehow I had this gut feeling Nika was going to be fine the next day or two, but a part of me didn't want to say it publicly because I had a feeling it wasn't going to be taken the right way.

From one of my important professors a few years ago -- from some suicide statistical data she mentioned very clearly that people who verbally state suicidal thoughts for the most part, *usually* but not always, never follow up on their original intent. It's the ones that seem withdrawn and you could easily differentiate the personality behaviors in reality by a mile away.

I just didn't feel it was appropriate to post at that time, because it for one was not going to be taken seriously. Just my two cents over the issue.
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Your professor told you the truth. Those that are intent on comitting suicide do not inform anyone of their intentions. They simply carry out the act.
 
Hear Again said:
then you need to get yourself on medicaid asap. they will pay the entire cost of your hospitalization. they've always paid for mine. the hospitalization i had for my first manic/psychotic episode in 2006 was for a little over a month and i didn't have to pay a cent of that.
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Really? Wow I didn't know that. I definitely will do that!
 
jillio said:
You are going to have to elaborate on that. Doesn't fit any diagnostic profile.
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Dissociation is common in people with Chronic PTSD, especially if their PTSD stems from childhood trauma. You should know that if you're a mental health professional. I dissociate strongly but I don't have multiple personalities or anything. I just go into an irrational/suicidal mode sometimes, although I am generally speaking good about keeping it private except that my girlfriend happened to be suicidal that night so I had to go to my next resort. I don't know if it's that I feel suicidal when I dissociate because I access the trauma material, or if it's that when I dissociate I become suicidal. All I know is that I dissociate and when I become dissociated, I'm irrational/suicidal. It's not an alter which is why I wrote "alter" in quotation marks because I don't mean an alter as in a DID alter, but I don't know how else to describe it.
 
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