Do you support suicide assistance?

Do you support suicide assistance?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 44.7%

  • No

    Votes: 16 34.0%

  • Don´t know

    Votes: 8 17.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • Total voters
    47
KarissaMann05 said:
Yes, that's correct. No one will encourage them to do it because it's their choice to make a desicion, NOT A DOCTOR OR NURSE OR ANY PHYSICIAN. It's a choice has made by a person her/himself. A patient should understand the requirement and agreement with doctors. Like I said it before, suicide assistance is for hospital purposes only... Let me tell you about how is the difference in between commit suicide and assistance suicide.

Death with Dignity Act had happened on October 27, 1997 and November 1994. I'm sure you guys know about that... Let's start with commit suicide...



This is much safer and simple than the commit suicide. Before my home-state had the law, believe it or not, there were still had a rate of commit suicide. So, after the law had passed, the assisted suicide do not effect on the rate of commit suicide, because of the popularity had been increased today by immegaties (sp?), birth rate, teen suicide rate (due to religious intolerance, bullies, etc etc), fear of dealing with various and personal problems (see the above on the list of commit suicide), and much more.

Cearly, both of assisted suicide and commit suicide are not same, like Liebling said, you cannot compare both of them because they are totally different stories.

EDIT: Again, it's about a doctor's job, not outside of any hospital.
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Exactly that's what I answered several ADers' posts that they cannot compared commit suicide with assisted suicide because they are total different. :ty: for make the list. I can't see why they use those word "suicide"... :roll:
 
Oceanbreeze said:
You're mixing apples and oranges, Karissa.

Physician assisted suicide is NOT the same thing as the mentally ill person who wants to end their life. In fact, a person requesting PAS must be mentally competent to do so. If there is depression or some other mental illness present, the person's request will be denied.

Also, the person requesting PAS does NOT have to be in the hospital to do so. Alot of the time, the terminally is is followed by hospice. This care can be given in the home. A nurse is assigned to the patient and that nurse follows the patient until his or her death. I can't cite actual figures, but there have been people who have died at home.
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Yes, I know but KarissaMann05 tried to convince the difference between commit suicide and assisted suicide because someone compared them.
 
jillio said:
I can give you an example: my brother was under hospice care at home at the time of his death. He was also on very high doses of morphine. We were told by hospice to increase his morphine dosage to whatever was necessary to eliminate his pain.
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I read your several sad posts over your brother's illness. I'm very sorry about the loss of your beloved brother... :( :hug:
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Exactly that's what I answered several ADers' posts that they cannot compared commit suicide with assisted suicide because they are total different. :ty: for make the list. I can't see why they use those word "suicide"... :roll:
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In my opinion there's no differences, they both are the same in a similar way, a suicide is a suicide, does not matter if it's done by a doctor or self, doesn't matter what reason either. I don't understand why you have to rolled your eyes, not everyone is going to agree with you. It's like saying you're right and some of us are wrong. there's no right nor wrong. Ty. ;)
 
Cheri said:
In my opinion there's no differences, they both are the same in a similar way, a suicide is a suicide, does not matter if it's done by a doctor or self, doesn't matter what reason either. I don't understand why you have to rolled your eyes, not everyone is going to agree with you. It's like saying you're right and some of us are wrong. there's no right nor wrong. Ty. ;)
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Huh? :confused: Nobody says that your post is wrong and my post is right... I really has no idea why you assume it...

Are you looking for an argument because I responsed someone's post to express my POV with that *roll eyes* emoction?


Please do respectfully debate with agree to disagree over this issues, not make an assumption over our posts

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>> I know what it alike when I withnessed my MIL... I am truly sorry for your loss of beloved mother, and feel with you how you withnessed your mother suffer...<<

Thank you, Liebling -- and I am sorry about your MIL. <hugs>
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Please do respectfully debate with agree to disagree over this issues, not make an assumption over our posts[/FONT]
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:confused: How am I making assumptions? I am respecting your opinions as well as others here, the problem is you're rolling your eyes (my question is where's the respect to our opinions?) you are saying they're not the same when that's where I disagree. It may not be the same way as how it is done, but suicide is a person who intentionally kills his/herself, that's what it is define in the dictionary. Committed suicide is an act of killing his/herself. Assisted suicide is an act that is done by a doctor or another individual because of illness. Both definitions are involve the ending of life. Understand what I mean now? :)
 
jillio said:
Yes, they are, thanks to hospice workers. I really and truly admire the hospice nurses and social workers. They are special people indeed to deal with all that pain and death, and the raw emotions of family members, and then get up to do it day after day. They are truly angels on this earth.
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Yes they are--especially the ones at Kobacker House at Riverside Hospital in Columbus, OH.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
That's why we have living will to make our own decision either we want to end our life or not by the doctor's assistance. I :ty: Terri Schavio's case to make a new law for living will.

The doctor can't put suffering patient to death without get the permisson from patient's relatives or living will.
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It's wrong to take Terri's life away without her consent. It doesn't matter if she is unable to make the decision at the time when she was in this condition. It was very wrong of her husband to end her life by starvin' her to death. By " endin' someone's life " is still morally wrong. If, Terri hadn't make a livin' will at the time before she fall into this terrible condition, then her husband shouldn't have end her life in the first place. He SHOULD support her through until her fate or destiny takes over to end her life naturally. Like for instance : Karen Ann Quinlan. Does that ring a bell to you ? Her devoted Catholic parents stood up for her for years and refused to end her life until Karen died on her own by natural cause. I am very impressed by her parents' showin' love for her daughter. It touched people's lives. That's what I would like to see in some parents - but, unfortunately, I don't see many of them are like Karen's parents.
 
Karen Ann Quinlan

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Maria said:
It's wrong to take Terri's life away without her consent. It doesn't matter if she is unable to make the decision at the time when she was in this condition. It was very wrong of her husband to end her life by starvin' her to death. By " endin' someone's life " is still morally wrong. If, Terri hadn't make a livin' will at the time before she fall into this terrible condition, then her husband shouldn't have end her life in the first place. He SHOULD support her through until her fate or destiny takes over to end her life naturally. Like for instance : Karen Ann Quinlan. Does that ring a bell to you ? Her devoted Catholic parents stood up for her for years and refused to end her life until Karen died on her own by natural cause. I am very impressed by her parents' showin' love for her daughter. It touched people's lives. That's what I would like to see in some parents - but, unfortunately, I don't see many of them are like Karen's parents.
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Terri's case should have never hapend in the first place if they had a living will and directives.....

Goes to show how important it is to have that document.
 
Maria said:
Karen Ann Quinlan

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Why didn't you post a picture of her as she was at the time her husband decided to cease all artificial measures of life? She was not the person shown in the picture you posted. That was just a record of who she used to be before her tragedy that turned her into a body without cognition or ability to think, speak, or care for herself, and one who needed 24/7 care and artificial means to maintain a minimum of biological activity that could even resemble life.
 
jillio said:
Why didn't you post a picture of her as she was at the time her husband decided to cease all artificial measures of life? She was not the person shown in the picture you posted. That was just a record of who she used to be before her tragedy that turned her into a body without cognition or ability to think, speak, or care for herself, and one who needed 24/7 care and artificial means to maintain a minimum of biological activity that could even resemble life.
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Her husband? She wasn't married. You must be talking about Terri. That was Karen in the picture not Terri.
 
Cheri said:
Her husband? She wasn't married. You must be talking about Terri. That was Karen in the picture not Terri.
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You are correct. My bad. I was talking about Terri, as hewr case intiated the discussion.

But the question would still be the same. Why pictures from the past before the person became incapacitated?
 
jillio said:
You are correct. My bad. I was talking about Terri, as hewr case intiated the discussion.

But the question would still be the same. Why pictures from the past before the person became incapacitated?
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They do have pictures of Terri before and after.
 
Byrdie714 said:
Terri's case should have never hapend in the first place if they had a living will and directives.....

Goes to show how important it is to have that document.
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Who would have thought of " livin' will " ? Not until Terri's life was terminated by her own husband and then, the talks of livin' will began after her death. It affected many people to think about, because of what happened to Terri and that it was wrong of her husband to cut her life short -- that's what it impacted people today....so, therefore, this livin' will became a law when it first created. It was never created before.
 
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