USB OBD II Scanner

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 08:03 AM

I am thinking about getting USB OBD II Scanner cuz it's cheap and use USB connect to laptop. My truck popped engine check light again and I am just fed up and wanted to narrow down what's really wrong. I've replaced couple of Oxygen Sensor last spring. It seem that when weather is cold, Engine check light lit on and stays on all day..

I thought OBD II Scanner would cost around $100 and up until I looked through Ebay and found out there's cheap one out there using USB. I thought why not!!

I could afford "least used" tools addition for my toolbox. I can use Netbook or any old junk working PC w/ USB laying around in garage to use it as a simple automotive diagnostic viewer and reset MIL (engine check light). USB OBD II scanner works the same way as hand held OBD II Scanner. It includes software.

(This info copied and pasted from USB OBD II Scanner in Ebay, all are the same as different seller's listing that sells same thing.)

OBD II V1.3 USB AUTO Scanner Auto Code Reader

The program lets you perform the following operations:

Read diagnostic trouble codes, both generic and manufacturer-specific , and display their meaning (over 3000 generic code definitions in the database).

Clear trouble codes and turn off the MIL ("Check Engine" light)

Display current sensor data, including:
Engine RPM
Calculated Load Value
Coolant Temperature
Fuel System Status
Vehicle Speed
Short Term Fuel Trim
Long Term Fuel Trim
Intake Manifold Pressure
Timing Advance
Intake Air Temperature
Air Flow Rate
Absolute Throttle Position
Oxygen sensor voltages/associated short term fuel trims
Fuel System status
Fuel Pressure
Many others...

Multi-Protocol Support:
SAE J1850 PWM (41.6 kbaud)
SAE J1850 VPW (10.4 kbaud)
ISO 9141-2 (5 baud init, 10.4 kbaud)
ISO 14230-4 KWP (5 baud init, 10.4 kbaud)
ISO 14230-4 KWP (fast init, 10.4 kbaud)
ISO 15765-4 CAN (11 bit ID, 500 kbaud)
ISO 15765-4 CAN (29 bit ID, 500 kbaud)
ISO 15765-4 CAN (11 bit ID, 250 kbaud)
ISO 15765-4 CAN (29 bit ID, 250 kbaud)

Supported Software :
Scantool_net113win
EasyOBDII
OBD2Spy
ScanMaster-EL

It is compatible with MOST American automotive after January 1st 1996 including European and Japanese model that have OBD II and EOBD II.

On Ebay I could get it for $25 bucks w/ Free Sh/H. Knowing that I don't plan on using it often. I could help friend fix their car as well. I bet that my deafie friends would line up to borrow it

They complained that OBD II Handheld scanner are expensive and don't use much and it's not worth blowing buck on that. They wish they can borrow someone else's OBD II Scanner but no one they knew owns it. So that'll be me. I don't care if they fried my OBD II scanner as long as they will be willing to pay for replacement.

Catty

Chevy57 · 10-12-2009, 08:34 AM

Yes, I saw it last week when changing oil on my 2007 Honda SUV at Lube Shop. They used handheld scanner for checking. Man showed it to me that battery is not good and require to replace new battery. I don't un why original battery is short life.

diehardbiker · 10-12-2009, 09:03 AM

Hey, you could easily pay NOTHING, how? Just go to AutoZone, they offer free ODB II reading for you.

I have ODB scanner, yes it includes both ODB I and II, and I thought I would use seldomly but ended up used few times a year. I use them before the inspection due, I do not want hassles for them to reject inspection only to find out that I could fix minor without costing me anything.

Sometimes MIL won't illuminate, and you may have no idea and drive around losing money on gas. Having scanner alerts you of any problems EVEN if MIL lights is not on. Hell worth it owning one. OFC it wasnt cheap, I bought about 3 years ago.

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Sometimes MIL won't illuminate, and you may have no idea and drive around losing money on gas. Having scanner alerts you of any problems EVEN if MIL lights is not on. Hell worth it owning one. OFC it wasnt cheap, I bought about 3 years ago.

Wondering if MIL light burned out or disconnected by previous owners

I didn't want to bother driving over to Auto part store to have them check it for free. I prefer to scan on OBD II myself..

Catty

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy57

Yes, I saw it last week when changing oil on my 2007 Honda SUV at Lube Shop. They used handheld scanner for checking. Man showed it to me that battery is not good and require to replace new battery. I don't un why original battery is short life.

It could be defective Lead grid inside of the battery. Happens to me that 2005 Jeep Liberty battery went bad within 3 years. It turned out that the (-) side of battery terminal was damaged. I realized that I left my tool on top of it when I shut the hood. It cracked the battery plastic top cover where (-) Terminal poke out (oops!!).

Catty

diehardbiker · 10-12-2009, 12:12 PM

Not every error code will cause MIL to illuminate.

For instance, one error code for gas level sensor, won't cause the MIL to illuminate, but would show up at Inspection.

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

Wondering if MIL light burned out or disconnected by previous owners

I didn't want to bother driving over to Auto part store to have them check it for free. I prefer to scan on OBD II myself..

Catty

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Not every error code will cause MIL to illuminate.

For instance, one error code for gas level sensor, won't cause the MIL to illuminate, but would show up at Inspection.

AAh... Got it..

Catty

Chevy57 · 10-12-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

It could be defective Lead grid inside of the battery. Happens to me that 2005 Jeep Liberty battery went bad within 3 years. It turned out that the (-) side of battery terminal was damaged. I realized that I left my tool on top of it when I shut the hood. It cracked the battery plastic top cover where (-) Terminal poke out (oops!!).

Catty

Cheap Japanese battery is junk?

The Highlander · 10-12-2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

I am thinking about getting USB OBD II Scanner cuz it's cheap and use USB connect to laptop. My truck popped engine check light again and I am just fed up and wanted to narrow down what's really wrong. I've replaced couple of Oxygen Sensor last spring. It seem that when weather is cold, Engine check light lit on and stays on all day..

I thought OBD II Scanner would cost around $100 and up until I looked through Ebay and found out there's cheap one out there using USB. I thought why not!!

I could afford "least used" tools addition for my toolbox. I can use Netbook or any old junk working PC w/ USB laying around in garage to use it as a simple automotive diagnostic viewer and reset MIL (engine check light). USB OBD II scanner works the same way as hand held OBD II Scanner. It includes software.

(This info copied and pasted from USB OBD II Scanner in Ebay, all are the same as different seller's listing that sells same thing.)

OBD II V1.3 USB AUTO Scanner Auto Code Reader

The program lets you perform the following operations:

Read diagnostic trouble codes, both generic and manufacturer-specific , and display their meaning (over 3000 generic code definitions in the database).

Clear trouble codes and turn off the MIL ("Check Engine" light)

Display current sensor data, including:
Engine RPM
Calculated Load Value
Coolant Temperature
Fuel System Status
Vehicle Speed
Short Term Fuel Trim
Long Term Fuel Trim
Intake Manifold Pressure
Timing Advance
Intake Air Temperature
Air Flow Rate
Absolute Throttle Position
Oxygen sensor voltages/associated short term fuel trims
Fuel System status
Fuel Pressure
Many others...

Multi-Protocol Support:
SAE J1850 PWM (41.6 kbaud)
SAE J1850 VPW (10.4 kbaud)
ISO 9141-2 (5 baud init, 10.4 kbaud)
ISO 14230-4 KWP (5 baud init, 10.4 kbaud)
ISO 14230-4 KWP (fast init, 10.4 kbaud)
ISO 15765-4 CAN (11 bit ID, 500 kbaud)
ISO 15765-4 CAN (29 bit ID, 500 kbaud)
ISO 15765-4 CAN (11 bit ID, 250 kbaud)
ISO 15765-4 CAN (29 bit ID, 250 kbaud)

Supported Software :
Scantool_net113win
EasyOBDII
OBD2Spy
ScanMaster-EL

It is compatible with MOST American automotive after January 1st 1996 including European and Japanese model that have OBD II and EOBD II.

On Ebay I could get it for $25 bucks w/ Free Sh/H. Knowing that I don't plan on using it often. I could help friend fix their car as well. I bet that my deafie friends would line up to borrow it

They complained that OBD II Handheld scanner are expensive and don't use much and it's not worth blowing buck on that. They wish they can borrow someone else's OBD II Scanner but no one they knew owns it. So that'll be me. I don't care if they fried my OBD II scanner as long as they will be willing to pay for replacement.

Catty

Go already to buy it since it is only $30 from ebay that I found so far. It is great and you can read all engine's spec.

Here a pictures and you get a idea.

The ECU+ [ECU+ Win Screen Shots]

I will let you to know when I find the right software for generic.

For me, I plan to buy Kiwi Wifi and use app from rev
DevToaster - Rev - iPhone app development, Great iPhone apps, and more

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy57

Yes, I saw it last week when changing oil on my 2007 Honda SUV at Lube Shop. They used handheld scanner for checking. Man showed it to me that battery is not good and require to replace new battery. I don't un why original battery is short life.

Bad luck. My Subaru finally replaced the new battery after 7 years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Hey, you could easily pay NOTHING, how? Just go to AutoZone, they offer free ODB II reading for you.

I have ODB scanner, yes it includes both ODB I and II, and I thought I would use seldomly but ended up used few times a year. I use them before the inspection due, I do not want hassles for them to reject inspection only to find out that I could fix minor without costing me anything.

Sometimes MIL won't illuminate, and you may have no idea and drive around losing money on gas. Having scanner alerts you of any problems EVEN if MIL lights is not on. Hell worth it owning one. OFC it wasnt cheap, I bought about 3 years ago.

Free alway suck because they do not have real-time data. That's all they can read is DTC and freeze data. That's it!

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

Go already to buy it since it is only $30 from ebay that I found so far. It is great and you can read all engine's spec.

Here a pictures and you get a idea.

The ECU+ [ECU+ Win Screen Shots]

I will let you to know when I find the right software for generic.

For me, I plan to buy Kiwi Wifi and use app from rev
DevToaster - Rev - iPhone app development, Great iPhone apps, and more

Sure ok, I would go ahead and buy it. I thought it would be useful. The only issue is that how do you know if one of 4 Oxygen sensors are bad? Can this software tell you that?

As for iPhone and any mobile phone with Bluetooth. There's a Bluetooth OBD II Scanner on sale in Ebay. That explained why.

Catty

The Highlander · 10-12-2009, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

As for iPhone and any mobile phone with Bluetooth. There's a Bluetooth OBD II Scanner on sale in Ebay. That explained why.

Catty

No, iPhone and iPod touch do not use bluetooth to connect OBD II. Only WIFI.

Trust me, bluetooth OBD II really SUCK BIG TIME due slow, short range, and drop. WIFI is much better.

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

No, iPhone and iPod touch do not use bluetooth to connect OBD II. Only WIFI.

Trust me, bluetooth OBD II really SUCK BIG TIME due slow, short range, and drop. WIFI is much better.

Agreed. Bluetooth don't go that far. Also it is finicky to set up.

catty

The Highlander · 10-12-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

Sure ok, I would go ahead and buy it. I thought it would be useful. The only issue is that how do you know if one of 4 Oxygen sensors are bad? Can this software tell you that?

As for iPhone and any mobile phone with Bluetooth. There's a Bluetooth OBD II Scanner on sale in Ebay. That explained why.

Catty

You can read O2 sensor's volt thru real-time data only. If you see OS2 range from .1volts to .74volt like .1 .40 .70 .20 .40 (up/down/up/down volts) that's mean it's good. (Not sure what exactly range of volt for OS2) If you see volt dont change anything or volt change very SLOW then OS2 is bad.

The Highlander · 10-12-2009, 04:07 PM

IF volt keep high all time mean too rich (waste of gas)

The Highlander · 10-12-2009, 04:12 PM

::Off-topic::

PicoScope Automotive Diagnostic Software - the easy answer to vehicle diagnostics

This is better tool ever! It can check any sensors, fuel pump motor, fuel injection,etc for any years of cars but cost $2k-$600 for device.

Download free automotive diagnostics software
You can download the free software and play around thru free tutorial.

IF you know how to use the oscilloscopes before then you will understand.

This is not for OBD-II.

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

::Off-topic::

PicoScope Automotive Diagnostic Software - the easy answer to vehicle diagnostics

This is better tool ever! It can check any sensors, fuel pump motor, fuel injection,etc for any years of cars but cost $2k-$600 for device.

Download free automotive diagnostics software
You can download the free software and play around thru free tutorial.

IF you know how to use the oscilloscopes before then you will understand.

This is not for OBD-II.

Yup I know how to use Oscilloscope, I own 20Mhz oscilloscope. Never use it since I left school 19 years ago. It's sitting in basment collecting dust.

Nice software. Shoot that I can't use it on OBD II Scanner device.

Catty

The Highlander · 10-12-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

Yup I know how to use Oscilloscope, I own 20Mhz oscilloscope. Never use it since I left school 19 years ago. It's sitting in basment collecting dust.

Nice software. Shoot that I can't use it on OBD II Scanner device.

Catty

You own the oscilloscope? That's great! You can use the current clamps to OS2 sensor. I will find the info for volts/div, time/div, and voltage range for you soon.

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

You own the oscilloscope? That's great! You can use the current clamps to OS2 sensor. I will find the info for volts/div, time/div, and voltage range for you soon.

I don't have Current clamp

I was planning on purchasing in the past but I didn't.

Go ahead and provide me time/div and voltage range in case If I decide to get one on Ebay. It'll be a good future reference for me.

Catty

The Highlander · 10-12-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

I don't have Current clamp

I was planning on purchasing in the past but I didn't.

Go ahead and provide me time/div and voltage range in case If I decide to get one on Ebay. It'll be a good future reference for me.

Catty

volts/div +/-2v, sec./div 200ms/dv, voltage range 0-0.8 voltage.

Remember high wave = rich and low wave = lean.

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

volts/div +/-2v, sec./div 200ms/dv, voltage range 0-0.8 voltage.

Remember high wave = rich and low wave = lean.

Thanks! That'll be my future reference!! I will look into the Current Clamp on Ebay to see how much it cost. It shouldn't cost much tho..

I believe that USB OBD II Scanner as well as hand held OBD II scanner may not be able to read all 4 of O2 sensors. Your info would help me to narrow down to faulty O2 sensor.

I will still buy USB OBD II scanner so I can monitor rest of other info of automotive's sensor activities. And reset the MIL (Engine check )

Thanks a ton!

Catty

purplecatty · 10-12-2009, 11:54 PM

I just checked Ebay (plop!) It's so expensive! Just for a Current Probe (from $200 up to $1,200). I realized that it doesn't have correct jack that my Oscilloscope that use BNC type. I found other website, not Ebay that they do sell one for BNC type oscilloscope which is lot cheaper. It's in United Kingdom.

Oh well!! I will have to keep searching.

Catty

The Highlander · 10-13-2009, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

Thanks! That'll be my future reference!! I will look into the Current Clamp on Ebay to see how much it cost. It shouldn't cost much tho..

I believe that USB OBD II Scanner as well as hand held OBD II scanner may not be able to read all 4 of O2 sensors. Your info would help me to narrow down to faulty O2 sensor.

I will still buy USB OBD II scanner so I can monitor rest of other info of automotive's sensor activities. And reset the MIL (Engine check )

Thanks a ton!

Catty

No problem.

OBD II device from Factory like GM only or Ford only or Toyota only, etc.. Not work for any mix brand (Ford and GM) do have real-time data but expensive.

OBD II from Snap-on is very powerful and it everything for any brand and full info but who can afford for $5,000. That's what I heard.

So OBD II with usb is cheaper.

rockdrummer · 10-13-2009, 09:36 AM

I had a problem with check engine light. Dealer wanted $99.95 just to diagnose the problem and would credit me the $99.99 if I had them do the work. I went to the local auto parts store and bought an OBD II scanner for 50 bucks. I am able to diagnose and reset the codes with the one I purchased. It was a wise investment.

diehardbiker · 10-13-2009, 10:57 AM

Sorry, not true anymore, it can apply to almost any vehicles, my scanner will work with just any ODB I and ODB II.

Of course, you WERE right back then when ODB I came out, it has its limit to make and model.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

No problem.

OBD II device from Factory like GM only or Ford only or Toyota only, etc.. Not work for any mix brand (Ford and GM) do have real-time data but expensive.

OBD II from Snap-on is very powerful and it everything for any brand and full info but who can afford for $5,000. That's what I heard.

So OBD II with usb is cheaper.

diehardbiker · 10-13-2009, 10:58 AM

Exactly, and sometimes mechanic lie in order to get more money. Owning a scanner will tell you what the problem is, and if mechanic tells you otherwise, then you smell farts from them.

My state inspection law requires zero error code or message on ODB I and ODB II system... Sucks? You betcha!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockdrummer

I had a problem with check engine light. Dealer wanted $99.95 just to diagnose the problem and would credit me the $99.99 if I had them do the work. I went to the local auto parts store and bought an OBD II scanner for 50 bucks. I am able to diagnose and reset the codes with the one I purchased. It was a wise investment.

The Highlander · 10-13-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Sorry, not true anymore, it can apply to almost any vehicles, my scanner will work with just any ODB I and ODB II.

Of course, you WERE right back then when ODB I came out, it has its limit to make and model.

Your scanner is not FACTORY. It just aftermarket and it design for universal for any vehicles with OBDI/II.

Why should Ford create the OBD II device for any brand of vehicle like Honda, Toyota,etc? I don't think so.

Factory OBD for limit brand only and aftermarket OBD for universal are different

You said ODB so it's mean Ol' Dirty Bastard. What about it?

One time I grab wrong device that it for Ford only and it can't read any info from GM vehicle with OBD II. You get a idea.

Here a link what FACTORY OBD look like

http://wb7.itrademarket.com/pdimage/...ystemkit-1.jpg

http://www.obdtoolstore.com/shop/ima...BMW%20OBD2.jpg

Not just type of plug.

purplecatty · 10-14-2009, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

Your scanner is not FACTORY. It just aftermarket and it design for universal for any vehicles with OBDI/II.

Why should Ford create the OBD II device for any brand of vehicle like Honda, Toyota,etc? I don't think so.

Factory OBD for limit brand only and aftermarket OBD for universal are different

You said ODB so it's mean Ol' Dirty Bastard. What about it?

One time I grab wrong device that it for Ford only and it can't read any info from GM vehicle with OBD II. You get a idea.

Here a link what FACTORY OBD look like

http://wb7.itrademarket.com/pdimage/...ystemkit-1.jpg

http://www.obdtoolstore.com/shop/ima...BMW%20OBD2.jpg

Not just type of plug.

I wonder if there are software that would open up more functions for certain models without purchasing specific OBD II scanners for each make of cars without blowing $2k to $6k just for the crap.

If Aftermarket OBDII scanner can do most of the job providing internal information of the automotive, would that be close enough?

Catty

diehardbiker · 10-14-2009, 12:25 PM

If you google find out what, who, why start OBD in the first place you will understand this better.

OBD was meant to be universal to meet federal emission requirement started by state of California.

OBD II is more universal than OBD I meaning one scanner can connect almost any vehicles, I have used my OBD scanner on several different makes and model and it worked every time and hit on target when doing troubleshooting. I had no problem with it so far and am damn glad I bought it instead of paying greedy dealer for diagnosis.

Again, please do hard reserch on origns of OBD.

Good luck.

diehardbiker · 10-14-2009, 12:28 PM

Please Google or use search engine and RESEARCH!

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Highlander

Your scanner is not FACTORY. It just aftermarket and it design for universal for any vehicles with OBDI/II.

Why should Ford create the OBD II device for any brand of vehicle like Honda, Toyota,etc? I don't think so.

Factory OBD for limit brand only and aftermarket OBD for universal are different

You said ODB so it's mean Ol' Dirty Bastard. What about it?

One time I grab wrong device that it for Ford only and it can't read any info from GM vehicle with OBD II. You get a idea.

Here a link what FACTORY OBD look like

http://wb7.itrademarket.com/pdimage/...ystemkit-1.jpg

http://www.obdtoolstore.com/shop/ima...BMW%20OBD2.jpg

Not just type of plug.

The Highlander · 10-14-2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

I wonder if there are software that would open up more functions for certain models without purchasing specific OBD II scanners for each make of cars without blowing $2k to $6k just for the crap.

If Aftermarket OBDII scanner can do most of the job providing internal information of the automotive, would that be close enough?

Catty

That's one I use it a lot and work for ANY vechicles (1996-up) that I know so far.

EASE PC Scan Tool

You can contact to company and ask for software only since you already own OBD2 USB device. Make sure it's work with your OBD2 USB device.

10-12-2009, 08:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
purplecatty Cool Guy!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Center of the USA Posts: 2,460	USB OBD II Scanner I am thinking about getting USB OBD II Scanner cuz it's cheap and use USB connect to laptop. My truck popped engine check light again and I am just fed up and wanted to narrow down what's really wrong. I've replaced couple of Oxygen Sensor last spring. It seem that when weather is cold, Engine check light lit on and stays on all day.. I thought OBD II Scanner would cost around $100 and up until I looked through Ebay and found out there's cheap one out there using USB. I thought why not!! I could afford "least used" tools addition for my toolbox. I can use Netbook or any old junk working PC w/ USB laying around in garage to use it as a simple automotive diagnostic viewer and reset MIL (engine check light). USB OBD II scanner works the same way as hand held OBD II Scanner. It includes software. (This info copied and pasted from USB OBD II Scanner in Ebay, all are the same as different seller's listing that sells same thing.) OBD II V1.3 USB AUTO Scanner Auto Code Reader The program lets you perform the following operations: Read diagnostic trouble codes, both generic and manufacturer-specific , and display their meaning (over 3000 generic code definitions in the database). Clear trouble codes and turn off the MIL ("Check Engine" light) Display current sensor data, including: Engine RPM Calculated Load Value Coolant Temperature Fuel System Status Vehicle Speed Short Term Fuel Trim Long Term Fuel Trim Intake Manifold Pressure Timing Advance Intake Air Temperature Air Flow Rate Absolute Throttle Position Oxygen sensor voltages/associated short term fuel trims Fuel System status Fuel Pressure Many others... Multi-Protocol Support: SAE J1850 PWM (41.6 kbaud) SAE J1850 VPW (10.4 kbaud) ISO 9141-2 (5 baud init, 10.4 kbaud) ISO 14230-4 KWP (5 baud init, 10.4 kbaud) ISO 14230-4 KWP (fast init, 10.4 kbaud) ISO 15765-4 CAN (11 bit ID, 500 kbaud) ISO 15765-4 CAN (29 bit ID, 500 kbaud) ISO 15765-4 CAN (11 bit ID, 250 kbaud) ISO 15765-4 CAN (29 bit ID, 250 kbaud) Supported Software : Scantool_net113win EasyOBDII OBD2Spy ScanMaster-EL It is compatible with MOST American automotive after January 1st 1996 including European and Japanese model that have OBD II and EOBD II. On Ebay I could get it for $25 bucks w/ Free Sh/H. Knowing that I don't plan on using it often. I could help friend fix their car as well. I bet that my deafie friends would line up to borrow it They complained that OBD II Handheld scanner are expensive and don't use much and it's not worth blowing buck on that. They wish they can borrow someone else's OBD II Scanner but no one they knew owns it. So that'll be me. I don't care if they fried my OBD II scanner as long as they will be willing to pay for replacement. Catty

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Chevy57 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buckeye State Posts: 5,435	Yes, I saw it last week when changing oil on my 2007 Honda SUV at Lube Shop. They used handheld scanner for checking. Man showed it to me that battery is not good and require to replace new battery. I don't un why original battery is short life. __________________

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diehardbiker Stuck in New York! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,169	Hey, you could easily pay NOTHING, how? Just go to AutoZone, they offer free ODB II reading for you. I have ODB scanner, yes it includes both ODB I and II, and I thought I would use seldomly but ended up used few times a year. I use them before the inspection due, I do not want hassles for them to reject inspection only to find out that I could fix minor without costing me anything. Sometimes MIL won't illuminate, and you may have no idea and drive around losing money on gas. Having scanner alerts you of any problems EVEN if MIL lights is not on. Hell worth it owning one. OFC it wasnt cheap, I bought about 3 years ago. __________________ Please do not follow unless your driving REAL 4x4 with LOW! FUN is standard...PAVEMENT is optional.... Plus Jeep Wrangler owner too.

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10-12-2009, 11:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
purplecatty Cool Guy!! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Center of the USA Posts: 2,460	I just checked Ebay (plop!) It's so expensive! Just for a Current Probe (from $200 up to $1,200). I realized that it doesn't have correct jack that my Oscilloscope that use BNC type. I found other website, not Ebay that they do sell one for BNC type oscilloscope which is lot cheaper. It's in United Kingdom. Oh well!! I will have to keep searching. Catty

10-13-2009, 09:36 AM	#23 (permalink)
rockdrummer Weapon of mass percussion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago area Posts: 4,090	I had a problem with check engine light. Dealer wanted $99.95 just to diagnose the problem and would credit me the $99.99 if I had them do the work. I went to the local auto parts store and bought an OBD II scanner for 50 bucks. I am able to diagnose and reset the codes with the one I purchased. It was a wise investment.

10-14-2009, 12:25 PM	#28 (permalink)
diehardbiker Stuck in New York! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,169	If you google find out what, who, why start OBD in the first place you will understand this better. OBD was meant to be universal to meet federal emission requirement started by state of California. OBD II is more universal than OBD I meaning one scanner can connect almost any vehicles, I have used my OBD scanner on several different makes and model and it worked every time and hit on target when doing troubleshooting. I had no problem with it so far and am damn glad I bought it instead of paying greedy dealer for diagnosis. Again, please do hard reserch on origns of OBD. Good luck. __________________ Please do not follow unless your driving REAL 4x4 with LOW! FUN is standard...PAVEMENT is optional.... Plus Jeep Wrangler owner too.

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